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Pull up your skirt Sally and get back to work or whatever the fuck it is that you do for a living.dflea said:I don't care all that much what you call them, this is a bad fucking look for us.
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People die in Hospitals every day. The hospitals must be killing those people. Kunt logic, is there anything it can't do?salemcoog said:HardlyClothed said:
Death camps are designed to kill. Concentration camps are designed to hold indefinitely without due process. No one is saying ICE is running “death” or “extermination” camps, although people seem to be dying in their custody frequently.pawz said:Speaking of concentration camps & history books., I'm literally coming to the end of the book The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich. I'm in the throes of reading about concentration camps.
Concentration camps are designed to kill. Period. Whether it's by efficient means (gas chamber) or working people to death via slave labor, there is only one intent. Extermination.
Maybe it's time to take a walk around Auchwitz or Dachau for some perspective.
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Why don't you shut that cocksucker on your face or drive your dumb ass to the 7-11, you fucking bitch?salemcoog said:
Pull up your skirt Sally and get back to work or whatever the fuck it is that you do for a living.dflea said:I don't care all that much what you call them, this is a bad fucking look for us.
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HardlyClothed said:
Death camps are designed to kill. Concentration camps are designed to hold indefinitely without due process. No one is saying ICE is running “death” or “extermination” camps, although people seem to be dying in their custody frequently.pawz said:Speaking of concentration camps & history books., I'm literally coming to the end of the book The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich. I'm in the throes of reading about concentration camps.
Concentration camps are designed to kill. Period. Whether it's by efficient means (gas chamber) or working people to death via slave labor, there is only one intent. Extermination.
Maybe it's time to take a walk around Auchwitz or Dachau for some perspective.
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Okay it's not the whole country. There's a small percentage of academia that uses the academic definition and a large percentage of the nation that understands it differently. I shouldn't have claimed the whole country was on my side, that was hyperbole.allpurpleallgold said:
In high school I had a Japanese teacher that was in an internment camp. I remember him talking about it (worth noting, I mocked him after the class because I was a shitty Mercer Island kid). If you had asked me last weekend if Japanese internment camps were concentration camps, I would have said “basically, yeah”. If you had asked me about the border, I think I would have asked for the definition of concentration camps.dnc said:
But you only disagree because of what you've been taught in the last 48 hours, yes? Had this not been brought up did you honestly think differently?allpurpleallgold said:But it’s not the whole country. I’ll accept that you would defend that but, dude, it’s not the whole country. And the only way you make it “everyone” is by dismissing those, like me, that disagree.
I will say, I viewed it like a prison. You can be treated well in prison, treated poorly in prison, treated horribly in prison and executed in prison. In all of those scenarios you’re always in prison. What’s being argued now is a clear distinction between concentration camps and death camps so yes the argument would include something I learned in the last 48 hours. I think it works either way though.
I can’t make you believe me on what I hypothetically would have said but this is an article from 2012. This isn’t an overnight rash decision because we are so desperate to attack Trump.
https://www.npr.org/sections/publiceditor/2012/02/10/146691773/euphemisms-concentration-camps-and-the-japanese-internment
That even has your argument in it, that saying concentration camps evokes images of Nazi atrocities. It’s been an argument, it didn’t become one when AOC said it. It’s not the whole country that agrees with you. -
And is it final?RaceBannon said:What's the solution?
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So what does she think will happen with no detention or enforcement?2001400ex said:
Literally no one (except CD) wants open borders race. HTHRaceBannon said:What's the solution?
We know AOC wants to abolish ICE
She wants camp Obama closed
Can we say she wants open borders yet?
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Anything's better than creepy lawyer stupid.creepycoug said:
You're really going to go all in on this one eh?allpurpleallgold said:
You’re the one distracting from the fact that we have textbook definition concentration camps.dnc said:Yep it's terrible and they should be ashamed.
Concentration camp label is a distraction from these real issues.
I understand that what they are doesn’t match in your head with the words concentration camp but you are wrong. Literally, by definition, you are wrong.
Having shitty conditions for detainees is horrible. Accepting that we have concentration camps in America because we’re not gassing people is dangerous.
Do one thing for me, really try and be honest with yourself about this, if AOC said “yes, that’s the definition but it’s not what I feel when I hear the words so it’s wrong” what would your reaction be?
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Seemed like you were gone for awhile. I hoped you had been hit by a large truck. Oh well, maybe next time.HardlyClothed said:
Death camps are designed to kill. Concentration camps are designed to hold indefinitely without due process. No one is saying ICE is running “death” or “extermination” camps, although people seem to be dying in their custody frequently.pawz said:Speaking of concentration camps & history books., I'm literally coming to the end of the book The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich. I'm in the throes of reading about concentration camps.
Concentration camps are designed to kill. Period. Whether it's by efficient means (gas chamber) or working people to death via slave labor, there is only one intent. Extermination.
Maybe it's time to take a walk around Auchwitz or Dachau for some perspective. -
a) everyone but the radical left knows the two camps are synonymous ..HardlyClothed said:
Death camps are designed to kill. Concentration camps are designed to hold indefinitely without due process. No one is saying ICE is running “death” or “extermination” camps, although people seem to be dying in their custody frequently.pawz said:Speaking of concentration camps & history books., I'm literally coming to the end of the book The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich. I'm in the throes of reading about concentration camps.
Concentration camps are designed to kill. Period. Whether it's by efficient means (gas chamber) or working people to death via slave labor, there is only one intent. Extermination.
Maybe it's time to take a walk around Auchwitz or Dachau for some perspective.
b) would love a source for "seem to be dying in their custody frequently". Would also like a distinction for the people found near death from walking across the desert ..
Since we? know you won't be providing either, it's safe to say you probably have a political agenda that has nothing to do with safety for any person - brown or otherwise -
When did people start talking about "brown people"
Seems new
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You can say I don't give a shit about these people and you would be partially correct. But let's say I don't. My solutions are better for them than the actions of the folks who also pretend to care about them but just want an issue for the 2020 campaign.
The first thing to keep the kids safe is for them not to cross the border with their parents or fake parents. The second thing is to fund more detention centers and remove the judicial orders on how long they can stay. The laws on asylum need to change back so their is no longer an incentive to risk your kids to get in here
What Trump is doing with Mexico and Central America is going to save more lives than arguing over the meaning of concentration camps. Our Congress could do even more.
"its a bad look"
No shit that's the whole idea. Destroy ICE and close the camps. Defacto open borders. Emotional appeals. Beat Trump nothing else matters
I may be callous but I'm not as callous as the folks using human lives to win an election
Right now the word is out that you just need to show up at the border, claim asylum, spend 60 days in a death camp and welcome to America baby -
In Races mind. Giving the illegals a toothbrush and a shower is equal to open borders.
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Hondo pretends the strawman is a young illegal immigrant boy as he fucks it in the ass.2001400ex said:In Races mind. Giving the illegals a toothbrush and a shower is equal to open borders.
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Whats your solution?2001400ex said:In Races mind. Giving the illegals a toothbrush and a shower is equal to open borders.
Calling them concentration camps or saying its not a good look?
What does that solve
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Hi2001400ex said:
Literally no one (except CD) wants open borders race. HTHRaceBannon said:What's the solution?
We know AOC wants to abolish ICE
She wants camp Obama closed
Can we say she wants open borders yet? -
RaceBannon said:
Whats your solution?2001400ex said:In Races mind. Giving the illegals a toothbrush and a shower is equal to open borders.
Calling them concentration camps or saying its not a good look?
What does that solve
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How about give them some basic human cleanliness. Even the criminals in Alcatraz had a shower and bed. -
They’re not synonymous. It’s mealy mouthed to say extermination camps, labor camps, or concentration camps are synonymous. Stop playing dumb.pawz said:
a) everyone but the radical left knows the two camps are synonymous ..HardlyClothed said:
Death camps are designed to kill. Concentration camps are designed to hold indefinitely without due process. No one is saying ICE is running “death” or “extermination” camps, although people seem to be dying in their custody frequently.pawz said:Speaking of concentration camps & history books., I'm literally coming to the end of the book The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich. I'm in the throes of reading about concentration camps.
Concentration camps are designed to kill. Period. Whether it's by efficient means (gas chamber) or working people to death via slave labor, there is only one intent. Extermination.
Maybe it's time to take a walk around Auchwitz or Dachau for some perspective.
b) would love a source for "seem to be dying in their custody frequently". Would also like a distinction for the people found near death from walking across the desert ..
Since we? know you won't be providing either, it's safe to say you probably have a political agenda that has nothing to do with safety for any person - brown or otherwise
Concentration camps can lead to death camps as you should now given what you’re reading but they’re not definitionally the same. ICE is running concentration camps by definition. It appears acknowledging that offends you. -
You have some serious strawman ass fucking issues Hondo.2001400ex said:
In Races mind. Giving the illegals a toothbrush and a shower is equal to open borders.
Nothing Race said supports this bullshit. If you don't like the strawman ass fucking imagery stop doing it. -
We are2001400ex said:RaceBannon said:
Whats your solution?2001400ex said:In Races mind. Giving the illegals a toothbrush and a shower is equal to open borders.
Calling them concentration camps or saying its not a good look?
What does that solve
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How about give them some basic human cleanliness. Even the criminals in Alcatraz had a shower and bed.
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Sure the strategy makes sense. It is sending a stern warning to would-be illegal immigrants. I think that's a message worth sending.salemcoog said:
It's almost like we are giving incentives to not jump our border illegally.allpurpleallgold said:
Nothing to see here. Everything is fine. It’s like a summer camp.
Democrats put the word out in Central America that everybody will get in if they come.
Republicans are saying that isn't the case with actions.
Now maybe they will think twice before trying to hop our fences.
Maybe I'm just too fucking soft, but can we at least give them basic sanitation? We can even compromise and give them the generic stuff instead of that name brand shit.
Christ, it's like some of you relish the opportunity to look like assholes to the rest of the world just so we can all laugh at the predictable overreactions from the left. -
Komo4 buttfuckerRaceBannon said:
We are2001400ex said:RaceBannon said:
Whats your solution?2001400ex said:In Races mind. Giving the illegals a toothbrush and a shower is equal to open borders.
Calling them concentration camps or saying its not a good look?
What does that solve
Lightweight
How about give them some basic human cleanliness. Even the criminals in Alcatraz had a shower and bed.
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The facilities we have are being overwhelmed. If hundreds of thousands of Americans started to demand entry into their country would you really hold their government responsible for their well being?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Sure the strategy makes sense. It is sending a stern warning to would-be illegal immigrants. I think that's a message worth sending.salemcoog said:
It's almost like we are giving incentives to not jump our border illegally.allpurpleallgold said:
Nothing to see here. Everything is fine. It’s like a summer camp.
Democrats put the word out in Central America that everybody will get in if they come.
Republicans are saying that isn't the case with actions.
Now maybe they will think twice before trying to hop our fences.
Maybe I'm just too fucking soft, but can we at least give them basic sanitation? We can even compromise and give them the generic stuff instead of that name brand shit.
Christ, it's like some of you relish the opportunity to look like assholes to the rest of the world just so we can all laugh at the predictable overreactions from the left. -
So you have no link to support the mass death that you believe is occurring to illegals in holding due to American abuse. Just feelings.HardlyClothed said:
They’re not synonymous. It’s mealy mouthed to say extermination camps, labor camps, or concentration camps are synonymous. Stop playing dumb.pawz said:
a) everyone but the radical left knows the two camps are synonymous ..HardlyClothed said:
Death camps are designed to kill. Concentration camps are designed to hold indefinitely without due process. No one is saying ICE is running “death” or “extermination” camps, although people seem to be dying in their custody frequently.pawz said:Speaking of concentration camps & history books., I'm literally coming to the end of the book The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich. I'm in the throes of reading about concentration camps.
Concentration camps are designed to kill. Period. Whether it's by efficient means (gas chamber) or working people to death via slave labor, there is only one intent. Extermination.
Maybe it's time to take a walk around Auchwitz or Dachau for some perspective.
b) would love a source for "seem to be dying in their custody frequently". Would also like a distinction for the people found near death from walking across the desert ..
Since we? know you won't be providing either, it's safe to say you probably have a political agenda that has nothing to do with safety for any person - brown or otherwise
Concentration camps can lead to death camps as you should now given what you’re reading but they’re not definitionally the same. ICE is running concentration camps by definition. It appears acknowledging that offends you.
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If their government had the means to provide fucking toothbrushes and chose not to? Yes, I would say that's a dick move. It's possible to be right and an asshole at the same time.SFGbob said:
The facilities we have are being overwhelmed. If hundreds of thousands of Americans started to demand entry into their country would you really hold their government responsible for their well being?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Sure the strategy makes sense. It is sending a stern warning to would-be illegal immigrants. I think that's a message worth sending.salemcoog said:
It's almost like we are giving incentives to not jump our border illegally.allpurpleallgold said:
Nothing to see here. Everything is fine. It’s like a summer camp.
Democrats put the word out in Central America that everybody will get in if they come.
Republicans are saying that isn't the case with actions.
Now maybe they will think twice before trying to hop our fences.
Maybe I'm just too fucking soft, but can we at least give them basic sanitation? We can even compromise and give them the generic stuff instead of that name brand shit.
Christ, it's like some of you relish the opportunity to look like assholes to the rest of the world just so we can all laugh at the predictable overreactions from the left. -
So pandering to the rest of the world for the last 75 years has benefited Americans, how?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Sure the strategy makes sense. It is sending a stern warning to would-be illegal immigrants. I think that's a message worth sending.salemcoog said:
It's almost like we are giving incentives to not jump our border illegally.allpurpleallgold said:
Nothing to see here. Everything is fine. It’s like a summer camp.
Democrats put the word out in Central America that everybody will get in if they come.
Republicans are saying that isn't the case with actions.
Now maybe they will think twice before trying to hop our fences.
Maybe I'm just too fucking soft, but can we at least give them basic sanitation? We can even compromise and give them the generic stuff instead of that name brand shit.
Christ, it's like some of you relish the opportunity to look like assholes to the rest of the world just so we can all laugh at the predictable overreactions from the left. -
Got it, so if a foreign government has the means to provide me with shit, they should do so even if I'm violating their laws.GreenRiverGatorz said:
If their government had the means to provide fucking toothbrushes and chose not to? Yes, I would say that's a dick move. It's possible to be right and an asshole at the same time.SFGbob said:
The facilities we have are being overwhelmed. If hundreds of thousands of Americans started to demand entry into their country would you really hold their government responsible for their well being?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Sure the strategy makes sense. It is sending a stern warning to would-be illegal immigrants. I think that's a message worth sending.salemcoog said:
It's almost like we are giving incentives to not jump our border illegally.allpurpleallgold said:
Nothing to see here. Everything is fine. It’s like a summer camp.
Democrats put the word out in Central America that everybody will get in if they come.
Republicans are saying that isn't the case with actions.
Now maybe they will think twice before trying to hop our fences.
Maybe I'm just too fucking soft, but can we at least give them basic sanitation? We can even compromise and give them the generic stuff instead of that name brand shit.
Christ, it's like some of you relish the opportunity to look like assholes to the rest of the world just so we can all laugh at the predictable overreactions from the left. -
It's just like with bums, the easier you make it on them and the more facilities and accommodations you give them the more you're going to get.
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What does this have to do with withholding basic sanitation?salemcoog said:
So pandering to the rest of the world for the last 75 years has benefited Americans, how?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Sure the strategy makes sense. It is sending a stern warning to would-be illegal immigrants. I think that's a message worth sending.salemcoog said:
It's almost like we are giving incentives to not jump our border illegally.allpurpleallgold said:
Nothing to see here. Everything is fine. It’s like a summer camp.
Democrats put the word out in Central America that everybody will get in if they come.
Republicans are saying that isn't the case with actions.
Now maybe they will think twice before trying to hop our fences.
Maybe I'm just too fucking soft, but can we at least give them basic sanitation? We can even compromise and give them the generic stuff instead of that name brand shit.
Christ, it's like some of you relish the opportunity to look like assholes to the rest of the world just so we can all laugh at the predictable overreactions from the left.
I agree with the stronger border tactics. I agree with taking steps to disincentivize illegal immigration. Shit, as much as I disagree with Trump, I'm also for the wall. I also think you can achieve all of those ends and give them a toothbrush at the same time.
I know, I'm a fucking visionary.
