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  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    AC/DC - Back in Black

    dflea said:

    BearsWiin said:

    There are two iconic songs on Back in Black and a lot of forgettable ones

    Rubber Soul has been the most influential of the nominees, but PG is quintessential LZ

    Two? No. That's a load of shit.

    Title track
    Hells Bells
    You Shook Me......
    Shoot to Thrill
    Rock & Roll Ain't Noise Pollution

    Nobody has forgotten any of those songs. Some play in stadiums every weekend. In fact, play any song on that album at a party and most of the crowd will know the song even if they haven't heard it in 30 years, unless you're in Faggotville or something.

    22 million copies of BiB sold in the US, vs. 6 million copies of Rubber Soul sold. Not that number sold equals quality, but it's one way to measure music that can be quantified.

    Rubber Soul isn't in the same league, and it isn't close.. Go ahead and line them up song on song. Only really old fuckers and fly anglers are going to pick Rubber Soul.
    @dflea so Rubber Soul has about 6 or 7 all time classics and another 4 really good songs. Back in Black has 4 classics and 2 or 3 just good songs.

    But the difference is how much Rubber Soul moved the art form forward. In My Life and Norwegian Wood were more ground breaking than anything on Back in Black. And people also forget that they had the double A side of We Can Work it Out / Day Tripper that came out at the same time and those songs weren’t even on Rubber Soul.

    Lastly, because I’m a fly guy you should just accept that, culturally speaking, I am superior and have better taste.
    lol

    I was going to argue this point with you until I remembered that you're right.

    I just feel obliged to go to the mat for AC/DC regardless of the conversation or contest.

  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,072
    Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti

    dflea said:

    BearsWiin said:

    There are two iconic songs on Back in Black and a lot of forgettable ones

    Rubber Soul has been the most influential of the nominees, but PG is quintessential LZ

    Two? No. That's a load of shit.

    Title track
    Hells Bells
    You Shook Me......
    Shoot to Thrill
    Rock & Roll Ain't Noise Pollution

    Nobody has forgotten any of those songs. Some play in stadiums every weekend. In fact, play any song on that album at a party and most of the crowd will know the song even if they haven't heard it in 30 years, unless you're in Faggotville or something.

    22 million copies of BiB sold in the US, vs. 6 million copies of Rubber Soul sold. Not that number sold equals quality, but it's one way to measure music that can be quantified.

    Rubber Soul isn't in the same league, and it isn't close.. Go ahead and line them up song on song. Only really old fuckers and fly anglers are going to pick Rubber Soul.
    @dflea so Rubber Soul has about 6 or 7 all time classics and another 4 really good songs. Back in Black has 4 classics and 2 or 3 just good songs.

    But the difference is how much Rubber Soul moved the art form forward. In My Life and Norwegian Wood were more ground breaking than anything on Back in Black. And people also forget that they had the double A side of We Can Work it Out / Day Tripper that came out at the same time and those songs weren’t even on Rubber Soul.

    Lastly, because I’m a fly guy you should just accept that, culturally speaking, I am superior and have better taste.
    https://medium.com/cuepoint/how-the-beatles-revolver-gave-brian-wilson-a-nervous-breakdown-4b3939c4e0e5

    When Brian Wilson first heard the Beatles’ 1965 album Rubber Soul, he was so astonished by the album that the next morning, he went straight to his piano and started writing “God Only Knows” with his songwriting partner Tony Asher.

    Wilson knew that Rubber Soul — an album that contained the most mature songwriting from John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison yet, and exhibited the beginnings of a studio effects revolution — was a glimpse into the future of rock music, and that the Beatles were at the forefront. As cofounder of the Beach Boys, he knew that music was changing and for his group to stay on top in the industry, he would have to make something just as good, or better.

    The result was Pet Sounds, released May 16, 1966. It was the Beach Boys’ greatest artistic achievement; one that would never be reached by the group again.


    Rubber Soul kicked the Beach Boys in the butt and spurred them to make Pet Sounds; that musical arms race revolutionized pop music. Back in Black was oh hey, they got a new lead singer and are still making albums, cool
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
    Zep could probably win every one of these poles if more of you guys understood culture.
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,072
    Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
    PurpleJ said:

    Zep could probably win every one of these poles if more of you guys understood culture.

    or music
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,339 Founders Club
    Beatles - Rubber Soul
    PurpleJ said:

    Zep could probably win every one of these poles if more of you guys understood culture.

    They’ve won 2 out of 5 so far. That’s not bad.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,339 Founders Club
    Beatles - Rubber Soul
    chuck said:

    dflea said:

    chuck said:

    dflea said:

    BearsWiin said:

    There are two iconic songs on Back in Black and a lot of forgettable ones

    Rubber Soul has been the most influential of the nominees, but PG is quintessential LZ

    Two? No. That's a load of shit.

    Title track
    Hells Bells
    You Shook Me......
    Shoot to Thrill
    Rock & Roll Ain't Noise Pollution

    Nobody has forgotten any of those songs. Some play in stadiums every weekend. In fact, play any song on that album at a party and most of the crowd will know the song even if they haven't heard it in 30 years, unless you're in Faggotville or something.

    22 million copies of BiB sold in the US, vs. 6 million copies of Rubber Soul sold. Not that number sold equals quality, but it's one way to measure music that can be quantified.

    Rubber Soul isn't in the same league, and it isn't close.. Go ahead and line them up song on song. Only really old fuckers and fly anglers are going to pick Rubber Soul.
    I dont fly fish a-hole.
    lol

    You picked Dylan.

    Plus, fly guys are the cool kids. I didn't think it was an accusation that would offend anyone when I poasted it.
    Not offended I just like talking that way. I've done a little fly fishing and even built a nice 6 weight once. I'm a use whatever gets me the most fish with the least wasted time, effort and money type of fisherman though and fly fishing rarely meets that criteria

    Dylan isn't for everyone, though it's been rare for me to find folks who dont appreciate him given a chance.

    I like a little ACDC. I just dont take them real seriously.
    After watched @dflea get the big fat hen on the 6” worm I decided I need to start chucking gear at these migratory fish. Fly fishing will always be the way to go on land locked river trout. But you gear guys have a major advantage in the coastal waters.
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    Beatles - Rubber Soul

    dflea said:

    BearsWiin said:

    There are two iconic songs on Back in Black and a lot of forgettable ones

    Rubber Soul has been the most influential of the nominees, but PG is quintessential LZ

    Two? No. That's a load of shit.

    Title track
    Hells Bells
    You Shook Me......
    Shoot to Thrill
    Rock & Roll Ain't Noise Pollution

    Nobody has forgotten any of those songs. Some play in stadiums every weekend. In fact, play any song on that album at a party and most of the crowd will know the song even if they haven't heard it in 30 years, unless you're in Faggotville or something.

    22 million copies of BiB sold in the US, vs. 6 million copies of Rubber Soul sold. Not that number sold equals quality, but it's one way to measure music that can be quantified.

    Rubber Soul isn't in the same league, and it isn't close.. Go ahead and line them up song on song. Only really old fuckers and fly anglers are going to pick Rubber Soul.
    @dflea so Rubber Soul has about 6 or 7 all time classics and another 4 really good songs. Back in Black has 4 classics and 2 or 3 just good songs.

    But the difference is how much Rubber Soul moved the art form forward. In My Life and Norwegian Wood were more ground breaking than anything on Back in Black. And people also forget that they had the double A side of We Can Work it Out / Day Tripper that came out at the same time and those songs weren’t even on Rubber Soul.

    Lastly, because I’m a fly guy you should just accept that, culturally speaking, I am superior and have better taste.
    For me it was basically In My Life and Norwegian Wood vs Shook Me and Hell's Bells. Number of good songs on both albums but toe to toe Rubber Soul wins on top.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    AC/DC - Back in Black
    BearsWiin said:



    https://medium.com/cuepoint/how-the-beatles-revolver-gave-brian-wilson-a-nervous-breakdown-4b3939c4e0e5

    When Brian Wilson first heard the Beatles’ 1965 album Rubber Soul, he was so astonished by the album that the next morning, he went straight to his piano and started writing “God Only Knows” with his songwriting partner Tony Asher.

    Wilson knew that Rubber Soul — an album that contained the most mature songwriting from John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison yet, and exhibited the beginnings of a studio effects revolution — was a glimpse into the future of rock music, and that the Beatles were at the forefront. As cofounder of the Beach Boys, he knew that music was changing and for his group to stay on top in the industry, he would have to make something just as good, or better.

    The result was Pet Sounds, released May 16, 1966. It was the Beach Boys’ greatest artistic achievement; one that would never be reached by the group again.


    Rubber Soul kicked the Beach Boys in the butt and spurred them to make Pet Sounds; that musical arms race revolutionized pop music. Back in Black was oh hey, they got a new lead singer and are still making albums, cool

    So, in the opinion of the Beach Boys, Rubber Soul is the more significant album?

    Good to know.

    Are we done now, or is the 'chocolate is better than vanilla' conversation next?
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    AC/DC - Back in Black



    After watched @dflea get the big fat hen on the 6” worm I decided I need to start chucking gear at these migratory fish. Fly fishing will always be the way to go on land locked river trout. But you gear guys have a major advantage in the coastal waters.

    It's the cold and colored water that puts a fly guy at a real disadvantage for winter steelhead. The water that day was damn cold and pretty colored up, so that worm was just a way to get noticed.

    In the summer time, the gear guy has way less of an advantage over fly gear. Rivers are open again now. Grab your flies and let's go kill a summer run.

  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,072
    Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
    dflea said:

    BearsWiin said:



    https://medium.com/cuepoint/how-the-beatles-revolver-gave-brian-wilson-a-nervous-breakdown-4b3939c4e0e5

    When Brian Wilson first heard the Beatles’ 1965 album Rubber Soul, he was so astonished by the album that the next morning, he went straight to his piano and started writing “God Only Knows” with his songwriting partner Tony Asher.

    Wilson knew that Rubber Soul — an album that contained the most mature songwriting from John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison yet, and exhibited the beginnings of a studio effects revolution — was a glimpse into the future of rock music, and that the Beatles were at the forefront. As cofounder of the Beach Boys, he knew that music was changing and for his group to stay on top in the industry, he would have to make something just as good, or better.

    The result was Pet Sounds, released May 16, 1966. It was the Beach Boys’ greatest artistic achievement; one that would never be reached by the group again.


    Rubber Soul kicked the Beach Boys in the butt and spurred them to make Pet Sounds; that musical arms race revolutionized pop music. Back in Black was oh hey, they got a new lead singer and are still making albums, cool

    So, in the opinion of the Beach Boys, Rubber Soul is the more significant album?

    Good to know.

    Are we done now, or is the 'chocolate is better than vanilla' conversation next?
    Oh, I think we're done for now. If you ever lern some music history we can try again
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    AC/DC - Back in Black
    BearsWiin said:

    dflea said:

    BearsWiin said:



    https://medium.com/cuepoint/how-the-beatles-revolver-gave-brian-wilson-a-nervous-breakdown-4b3939c4e0e5

    When Brian Wilson first heard the Beatles’ 1965 album Rubber Soul, he was so astonished by the album that the next morning, he went straight to his piano and started writing “God Only Knows” with his songwriting partner Tony Asher.

    Wilson knew that Rubber Soul — an album that contained the most mature songwriting from John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison yet, and exhibited the beginnings of a studio effects revolution — was a glimpse into the future of rock music, and that the Beatles were at the forefront. As cofounder of the Beach Boys, he knew that music was changing and for his group to stay on top in the industry, he would have to make something just as good, or better.

    The result was Pet Sounds, released May 16, 1966. It was the Beach Boys’ greatest artistic achievement; one that would never be reached by the group again.


    Rubber Soul kicked the Beach Boys in the butt and spurred them to make Pet Sounds; that musical arms race revolutionized pop music. Back in Black was oh hey, they got a new lead singer and are still making albums, cool

    So, in the opinion of the Beach Boys, Rubber Soul is the more significant album?

    Good to know.

    Are we done now, or is the 'chocolate is better than vanilla' conversation next?
    Oh, I think we're done for now. If you ever lern some music history we can try again
    So chocolate is best?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,136 Standard Supporter
    AC/DC - Back in Black
    dflea said:



    After watched @dflea get the big fat hen on the 6” worm I decided I need to start chucking gear at these migratory fish. Fly fishing will always be the way to go on land locked river trout. But you gear guys have a major advantage in the coastal waters.

    It's the cold and colored water that puts a fly guy at a real disadvantage for winter steelhead. The water that day was damn cold and pretty colored up, so that worm was just a way to get noticed.

    In the summer time, the gear guy has way less of an advantage over fly gear. Rivers are open again now. Grab your flies and let's go kill a summer run.



    The Throbber knows fuck all about fishing but I'm willing to learn....