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Trump’s tax cuts barely boosted growth or wages and is not paying for itself
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Again, you are missing the pointCirrhosisDawg said:
Tariffs are the protectionist recourse for hopelessly uncompetitive trumptards like you GayBob. Just own it.SFGbob said:
El Monte went with gibberish. So I've reduced myself to the level of Communist China because I don't think Chinese IP theft is part of the "free market" like you do.CirrhosisDawg said:
It’s simple GayBob. Tariffs (taxes on US consumers) are the natural recourse for trumptards who are beaten like a drum by china. Since you can’t beat them you advocate joining them. You are no better than a chi com GayBob.SFGbob said:What the fuck happened to El Monte? I see him running that ignorant mouth of his in other threads why did he run away from this one?
El Monte, how did I reduce myself to the level of Communist China? Come on Kunt, you made the claim back up that fucking big mouth of yours.
Logic only a Kunt could love. And now you see boys and girls why this Kunt is so hesitant to let go of the side of the kiddie pool.
Glug, glug El Monte. -
Do these same economists also advocate self-defeating, growth inhibiting tariffs?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sticking your head in the sand and refusing to acknowledge what is happening via state sponsored international corporate sabotage and market manipulation doesn't make it go away. I can't think of a major Economist that denies that it's a problem at this point. CDawg says so though so I guess that makes it all better.CirrhosisDawg said:
It’s simple GayBob. Tariffs (taxes on US consumers) are the natural recourse for trumptards who are beaten like a drum by china. Since you can’t beat them you advocate joining them. You are no better than a chi com GayBob.SFGbob said:What the fuck happened to El Monte? I see him running that ignorant mouth of his in other threads why did he run away from this one?
El Monte, how did I reduce myself to the level of Communist China? Come on Kunt, you made the claim back up that fucking big mouth of yours. -
Some do, what are your preferred methods? More of the same that's been getting our lunch money stolen? That seems to be all you advocate for.CirrhosisDawg said:
Do these same economists also advocate self-defeating, growth inhibiting tariffs?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sticking your head in the sand and refusing to acknowledge what is happening via state sponsored international corporate sabotage and market manipulation doesn't make it go away. I can't think of a major Economist that denies that it's a problem at this point. CDawg says so though so I guess that makes it all better.CirrhosisDawg said:
It’s simple GayBob. Tariffs (taxes on US consumers) are the natural recourse for trumptards who are beaten like a drum by china. Since you can’t beat them you advocate joining them. You are no better than a chi com GayBob.SFGbob said:What the fuck happened to El Monte? I see him running that ignorant mouth of his in other threads why did he run away from this one?
El Monte, how did I reduce myself to the level of Communist China? Come on Kunt, you made the claim back up that fucking big mouth of yours.
I would have preferred that we revisited the TPP and created a vast free trade network with China's competitors. -
Because China still relies on manufacturing as the majority of their economy, tariffs is the most effective way to hit them. Does it cause collateral damage to our economy? a little bit. But the long term benefit outweighs a short term growth inhibitor.CirrhosisDawg said:
Do these same economists also advocate self-defeating, growth inhibiting tariffs?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sticking your head in the sand and refusing to acknowledge what is happening via state sponsored international corporate sabotage and market manipulation doesn't make it go away. I can't think of a major Economist that denies that it's a problem at this point. CDawg says so though so I guess that makes it all better.CirrhosisDawg said:
It’s simple GayBob. Tariffs (taxes on US consumers) are the natural recourse for trumptards who are beaten like a drum by china. Since you can’t beat them you advocate joining them. You are no better than a chi com GayBob.SFGbob said:What the fuck happened to El Monte? I see him running that ignorant mouth of his in other threads why did he run away from this one?
El Monte, how did I reduce myself to the level of Communist China? Come on Kunt, you made the claim back up that fucking big mouth of yours.
Since you are so smart, do I need to wait another 2 years for you come up with an alternative approach to stop the technology theft occurring in China? Or would you rather continue with "Tarriffs are bad", because it's part of your liberal playbook? -
“Tariffs are bad” are part of the liberal playbook? Ronald Reagan is rolling over in his grave at how stupid trump has made the “conservative” movement.greenblood said:
Because China still relies on manufacturing as the majority of their economy, tariffs is the most effective way to hit them. Does it cause collateral damage to our economy? a little bit. But the long term benefit outweighs a short term growth inhibitor.CirrhosisDawg said:
Do these same economists also advocate self-defeating, growth inhibiting tariffs?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sticking your head in the sand and refusing to acknowledge what is happening via state sponsored international corporate sabotage and market manipulation doesn't make it go away. I can't think of a major Economist that denies that it's a problem at this point. CDawg says so though so I guess that makes it all better.CirrhosisDawg said:
It’s simple GayBob. Tariffs (taxes on US consumers) are the natural recourse for trumptards who are beaten like a drum by china. Since you can’t beat them you advocate joining them. You are no better than a chi com GayBob.SFGbob said:What the fuck happened to El Monte? I see him running that ignorant mouth of his in other threads why did he run away from this one?
El Monte, how did I reduce myself to the level of Communist China? Come on Kunt, you made the claim back up that fucking big mouth of yours.
Since you are so smart, do I need to wait another 2 years for you come up with an alternative approach to stop the technology theft occurring in China? Or would you rather continue with "Tarriffs are bad", because it's part of your liberal playbook? -
Some? Like leftist UC Irvine economist peter Navarro who currently advises trump?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Some do, what are your preferred methods? More of the same that's been getting our lunch money stolen? That seems to be all you advocate for.CirrhosisDawg said:
Do these same economists also advocate self-defeating, growth inhibiting tariffs?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sticking your head in the sand and refusing to acknowledge what is happening via state sponsored international corporate sabotage and market manipulation doesn't make it go away. I can't think of a major Economist that denies that it's a problem at this point. CDawg says so though so I guess that makes it all better.CirrhosisDawg said:
It’s simple GayBob. Tariffs (taxes on US consumers) are the natural recourse for trumptards who are beaten like a drum by china. Since you can’t beat them you advocate joining them. You are no better than a chi com GayBob.SFGbob said:What the fuck happened to El Monte? I see him running that ignorant mouth of his in other threads why did he run away from this one?
El Monte, how did I reduce myself to the level of Communist China? Come on Kunt, you made the claim back up that fucking big mouth of yours.
I would have preferred that we revisited the TPP and created a vast free trade network with China's competitors.
The US enjoys massive comparative economic advantages against China. Capitulating to domestic US populist-protectionist demagoguery will fail miserably, as is currently on display. Pulling out of tpp was another in a sequence of horribly botched trump policy changes. Ultimately the force of change will come from continued Innovative dominance, and commitment to leading a rules-based trading system. Reducing ourselves to chi com levels through tariffs in the name of supporting obsolescence, incompetence and uncompetitiveness is the trump’s road to ruin. -
Trump isn't a conservative HTHCirrhosisDawg said:
“Tariffs are bad” are part of the liberal playbook? Ronald Reagan is rolling over in his grave at how stupid trump has made the “conservative” movement.greenblood said:
Because China still relies on manufacturing as the majority of their economy, tariffs is the most effective way to hit them. Does it cause collateral damage to our economy? a little bit. But the long term benefit outweighs a short term growth inhibitor.CirrhosisDawg said:
Do these same economists also advocate self-defeating, growth inhibiting tariffs?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sticking your head in the sand and refusing to acknowledge what is happening via state sponsored international corporate sabotage and market manipulation doesn't make it go away. I can't think of a major Economist that denies that it's a problem at this point. CDawg says so though so I guess that makes it all better.CirrhosisDawg said:
It’s simple GayBob. Tariffs (taxes on US consumers) are the natural recourse for trumptards who are beaten like a drum by china. Since you can’t beat them you advocate joining them. You are no better than a chi com GayBob.SFGbob said:What the fuck happened to El Monte? I see him running that ignorant mouth of his in other threads why did he run away from this one?
El Monte, how did I reduce myself to the level of Communist China? Come on Kunt, you made the claim back up that fucking big mouth of yours.
Since you are so smart, do I need to wait another 2 years for you come up with an alternative approach to stop the technology theft occurring in China? Or would you rather continue with "Tarriffs are bad", because it's part of your liberal playbook? -
This is the problem, the rules have been completely ignored and often used against us. The rules are being violated, what do you propose as a recourse to the rules being broken? America will, I suppose, continue to innovate while the CCP sponsors corporate take overs of innovative start ups or hacking to steal the IP we are innovating.CirrhosisDawg said:
Some? Like leftist UC Irvine economist peter Navarro who currently advises trump?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Some do, what are your preferred methods? More of the same that's been getting our lunch money stolen? That seems to be all you advocate for.CirrhosisDawg said:
Do these same economists also advocate self-defeating, growth inhibiting tariffs?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sticking your head in the sand and refusing to acknowledge what is happening via state sponsored international corporate sabotage and market manipulation doesn't make it go away. I can't think of a major Economist that denies that it's a problem at this point. CDawg says so though so I guess that makes it all better.CirrhosisDawg said:
It’s simple GayBob. Tariffs (taxes on US consumers) are the natural recourse for trumptards who are beaten like a drum by china. Since you can’t beat them you advocate joining them. You are no better than a chi com GayBob.SFGbob said:What the fuck happened to El Monte? I see him running that ignorant mouth of his in other threads why did he run away from this one?
El Monte, how did I reduce myself to the level of Communist China? Come on Kunt, you made the claim back up that fucking big mouth of yours.
I would have preferred that we revisited the TPP and created a vast free trade network with China's competitors.
The US enjoys massive comparative economic advantages against China. Capitulating to domestic US populist-protectionist demagoguery will fail miserably, as is currently on display. Pulling out of tpp was another in a sequence of horribly botched trump policy changes. Ultimately the force of change will come from continued Innovative dominance, and commitment to leading a rules-based trading system. Reducing ourselves to chi com levels through tariffs in the name of supporting obsolescence, incompetence and uncompetitiveness is the trump’s road to ruin.
Would you prefer to call them "sanctions"? I'm on board with putting "sanctions" on CCP money the way we have done with Russia. Good luck getting the dems to capitulate to that since that's where they receive their funding from.
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He isn't missing it, he is too stupid to understand it and his rote responses don't cover it.greenblood said:
Again, you are missing the pointCirrhosisDawg said:
Tariffs are the protectionist recourse for hopelessly uncompetitive trumptards like you GayBob. Just own it.SFGbob said:
El Monte went with gibberish. So I've reduced myself to the level of Communist China because I don't think Chinese IP theft is part of the "free market" like you do.CirrhosisDawg said:
It’s simple GayBob. Tariffs (taxes on US consumers) are the natural recourse for trumptards who are beaten like a drum by china. Since you can’t beat them you advocate joining them. You are no better than a chi com GayBob.SFGbob said:What the fuck happened to El Monte? I see him running that ignorant mouth of his in other threads why did he run away from this one?
El Monte, how did I reduce myself to the level of Communist China? Come on Kunt, you made the claim back up that fucking big mouth of yours.
Logic only a Kunt could love. And now you see boys and girls why this Kunt is so hesitant to let go of the side of the kiddie pool.
Glug, glug El Monte. -
He doesn't care about IP theft. He feels it's just part of the free market.greenblood said:
Because China still relies on manufacturing as the majority of their economy, tariffs is the most effective way to hit them. Does it cause collateral damage to our economy? a little bit. But the long term benefit outweighs a short term growth inhibitor.CirrhosisDawg said:
Do these same economists also advocate self-defeating, growth inhibiting tariffs?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sticking your head in the sand and refusing to acknowledge what is happening via state sponsored international corporate sabotage and market manipulation doesn't make it go away. I can't think of a major Economist that denies that it's a problem at this point. CDawg says so though so I guess that makes it all better.CirrhosisDawg said:
It’s simple GayBob. Tariffs (taxes on US consumers) are the natural recourse for trumptards who are beaten like a drum by china. Since you can’t beat them you advocate joining them. You are no better than a chi com GayBob.SFGbob said:What the fuck happened to El Monte? I see him running that ignorant mouth of his in other threads why did he run away from this one?
El Monte, how did I reduce myself to the level of Communist China? Come on Kunt, you made the claim back up that fucking big mouth of yours.
Since you are so smart, do I need to wait another 2 years for you come up with an alternative approach to stop the technology theft occurring in China? Or would you rather continue with "Tarriffs are bad", because it's part of your liberal playbook?
