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Trump’s tax cuts barely boosted growth or wages and is not paying for itself

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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,811 Standard Supporter
    So socialists in the UK are doing the tabulations?

    Nice pick.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,039 Standard Supporter
    These numbers paint the picture. Obama was creating government jobs (for math challenged liberals that means higher taxes for everyone). Trump is creating private sector jobs which in comparison to Obama is a total turn around and a net positive which of course the article at top does not bother to discuss. The article is written as if we owe the government money because we get to keep more of our own. This only makes sense to idiotic democrats.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/02/01/manufacturers-added-6-times-more-jobs-under-trump-than-under-obamas-last-2-years/#a114fe25635a

    Looking at Trump’s first two years, the revised BLS data shows that more than two manufacturing jobs were added for every one job added in government at the federal, state, and local level. In contrast, under Obama, almost five government jobs were added for every one manufacturing job.

    After revising its data for past periods, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reports that seasonally adjusted nonfarm employment grew by 5.1 million jobs in President Trump’s first full two years in office, a 3.5% increase. Private sector payrolls grew by 4.9 million, a 4.0% increase.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,929

    These numbers paint the picture. Obama was creating government jobs (for math challenged liberals that means higher taxes for everyone). Trump is creating private sector jobs which in comparison to Obama is a total turn around and a net positive which of course the article at top does not bother to discuss. The article is written as if we owe the government money because we get to keep more of our own. This only makes sense to idiotic democrats.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/02/01/manufacturers-added-6-times-more-jobs-under-trump-than-under-obamas-last-2-years/#a114fe25635a

    Looking at Trump’s first two years, the revised BLS data shows that more than two manufacturing jobs were added for every one job added in government at the federal, state, and local level. In contrast, under Obama, almost five government jobs were added for every one manufacturing job.

    After revising its data for past periods, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reports that seasonally adjusted nonfarm employment grew by 5.1 million jobs in President Trump’s first full two years in office, a 3.5% increase. Private sector payrolls grew by 4.9 million, a 4.0% increase.

    Federal government employment was flat during the Obama years, but don't the facts fuck you up.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    HHusky said:

    These numbers paint the picture. Obama was creating government jobs (for math challenged liberals that means higher taxes for everyone). Trump is creating private sector jobs which in comparison to Obama is a total turn around and a net positive which of course the article at top does not bother to discuss. The article is written as if we owe the government money because we get to keep more of our own. This only makes sense to idiotic democrats.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/02/01/manufacturers-added-6-times-more-jobs-under-trump-than-under-obamas-last-2-years/#a114fe25635a

    Looking at Trump’s first two years, the revised BLS data shows that more than two manufacturing jobs were added for every one job added in government at the federal, state, and local level. In contrast, under Obama, almost five government jobs were added for every one manufacturing job.

    After revising its data for past periods, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reports that seasonally adjusted nonfarm employment grew by 5.1 million jobs in President Trump’s first full two years in office, a 3.5% increase. Private sector payrolls grew by 4.9 million, a 4.0% increase.

    Federal government employment was flat during the Obama years, but don't the facts fuck you up.
    And manufacturing jobs?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,030 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    These numbers paint the picture. Obama was creating government jobs (for math challenged liberals that means higher taxes for everyone). Trump is creating private sector jobs which in comparison to Obama is a total turn around and a net positive which of course the article at top does not bother to discuss. The article is written as if we owe the government money because we get to keep more of our own. This only makes sense to idiotic democrats.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/02/01/manufacturers-added-6-times-more-jobs-under-trump-than-under-obamas-last-2-years/#a114fe25635a

    Looking at Trump’s first two years, the revised BLS data shows that more than two manufacturing jobs were added for every one job added in government at the federal, state, and local level. In contrast, under Obama, almost five government jobs were added for every one manufacturing job.

    After revising its data for past periods, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reports that seasonally adjusted nonfarm employment grew by 5.1 million jobs in President Trump’s first full two years in office, a 3.5% increase. Private sector payrolls grew by 4.9 million, a 4.0% increase.

    Federal government employment was flat during the Obama years, but don't the facts fuck you up.
    Which has nothing to do with:

    Looking at Trump’s first two years, the revised BLS data shows that more than two manufacturing jobs were added for every one job added in government at the federal, state, and local level. In contrast, under Obama, almost five government jobs were added for every one manufacturing job.


    This fact seems to have fucked you up
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,929



    HHusky said:

    These numbers paint the picture. Obama was creating government jobs (for math challenged liberals that means higher taxes for everyone). Trump is creating private sector jobs which in comparison to Obama is a total turn around and a net positive which of course the article at top does not bother to discuss. The article is written as if we owe the government money because we get to keep more of our own. This only makes sense to idiotic democrats.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/02/01/manufacturers-added-6-times-more-jobs-under-trump-than-under-obamas-last-2-years/#a114fe25635a

    Looking at Trump’s first two years, the revised BLS data shows that more than two manufacturing jobs were added for every one job added in government at the federal, state, and local level. In contrast, under Obama, almost five government jobs were added for every one manufacturing job.

    After revising its data for past periods, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reports that seasonally adjusted nonfarm employment grew by 5.1 million jobs in President Trump’s first full two years in office, a 3.5% increase. Private sector payrolls grew by 4.9 million, a 4.0% increase.

    Federal government employment was flat during the Obama years, but don't the facts fuck you up.
    And manufacturing jobs?
    They are up under both. Manufacturing employment is less than 9% of the workforce in the US. This isn't exactly a return to the 1950s. No one has specified when America was Great Before, so comparisons are difficult.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,929

    HHusky said:

    These numbers paint the picture. Obama was creating government jobs (for math challenged liberals that means higher taxes for everyone). Trump is creating private sector jobs which in comparison to Obama is a total turn around and a net positive which of course the article at top does not bother to discuss. The article is written as if we owe the government money because we get to keep more of our own. This only makes sense to idiotic democrats.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/02/01/manufacturers-added-6-times-more-jobs-under-trump-than-under-obamas-last-2-years/#a114fe25635a

    Looking at Trump’s first two years, the revised BLS data shows that more than two manufacturing jobs were added for every one job added in government at the federal, state, and local level. In contrast, under Obama, almost five government jobs were added for every one manufacturing job.

    After revising its data for past periods, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reports that seasonally adjusted nonfarm employment grew by 5.1 million jobs in President Trump’s first full two years in office, a 3.5% increase. Private sector payrolls grew by 4.9 million, a 4.0% increase.

    Federal government employment was flat during the Obama years, but don't the facts fuck you up.
    Which has nothing to do with:

    Looking at Trump’s first two years, the revised BLS data shows that more than two manufacturing jobs were added for every one job added in government at the federal, state, and local level. In contrast, under Obama, almost five government jobs were added for every one manufacturing job.


    This fact seems to have fucked you up
    You seem to be confused about the office Obama held.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,030 Founders Club
    edited May 2019
    HHusky said:



    HHusky said:

    These numbers paint the picture. Obama was creating government jobs (for math challenged liberals that means higher taxes for everyone). Trump is creating private sector jobs which in comparison to Obama is a total turn around and a net positive which of course the article at top does not bother to discuss. The article is written as if we owe the government money because we get to keep more of our own. This only makes sense to idiotic democrats.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/02/01/manufacturers-added-6-times-more-jobs-under-trump-than-under-obamas-last-2-years/#a114fe25635a

    Looking at Trump’s first two years, the revised BLS data shows that more than two manufacturing jobs were added for every one job added in government at the federal, state, and local level. In contrast, under Obama, almost five government jobs were added for every one manufacturing job.

    After revising its data for past periods, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reports that seasonally adjusted nonfarm employment grew by 5.1 million jobs in President Trump’s first full two years in office, a 3.5% increase. Private sector payrolls grew by 4.9 million, a 4.0% increase.

    Federal government employment was flat during the Obama years, but don't the facts fuck you up.
    And manufacturing jobs?
    They are up under both. Manufacturing employment is less than 9% of the workforce in the US. This isn't exactly a return to the 1950s. No one has specified when America was Great Before, so comparisons are difficult.
    You said government hiring was flat under Obama yet it was 5 times more than manufacturing jobs under Obama

    That may be "up under both" but is a dishonest use of statistics at best

    They are 'Up a hell of a lot more" under Trump may have been what you were looking for

    Math is hard
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,929

    HHusky said:



    HHusky said:

    These numbers paint the picture. Obama was creating government jobs (for math challenged liberals that means higher taxes for everyone). Trump is creating private sector jobs which in comparison to Obama is a total turn around and a net positive which of course the article at top does not bother to discuss. The article is written as if we owe the government money because we get to keep more of our own. This only makes sense to idiotic democrats.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/02/01/manufacturers-added-6-times-more-jobs-under-trump-than-under-obamas-last-2-years/#a114fe25635a

    Looking at Trump’s first two years, the revised BLS data shows that more than two manufacturing jobs were added for every one job added in government at the federal, state, and local level. In contrast, under Obama, almost five government jobs were added for every one manufacturing job.

    After revising its data for past periods, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reports that seasonally adjusted nonfarm employment grew by 5.1 million jobs in President Trump’s first full two years in office, a 3.5% increase. Private sector payrolls grew by 4.9 million, a 4.0% increase.

    Federal government employment was flat during the Obama years, but don't the facts fuck you up.
    And manufacturing jobs?
    They are up under both. Manufacturing employment is less than 9% of the workforce in the US. This isn't exactly a return to the 1950s. No one has specified when America was Great Before, so comparisons are difficult.
    You said government hiring was flat under Obama yet it was 5 times more than manufacturing jobs under Obama

    That may be "up under both" but is a dishonest use of statistics at best

    They are 'Up a hell of a lot more" under Trump may have been what you were looking for

    Math is hard
    Are we great again yet?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,929

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:



    HHusky said:

    These numbers paint the picture. Obama was creating government jobs (for math challenged liberals that means higher taxes for everyone). Trump is creating private sector jobs which in comparison to Obama is a total turn around and a net positive which of course the article at top does not bother to discuss. The article is written as if we owe the government money because we get to keep more of our own. This only makes sense to idiotic democrats.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/02/01/manufacturers-added-6-times-more-jobs-under-trump-than-under-obamas-last-2-years/#a114fe25635a

    Looking at Trump’s first two years, the revised BLS data shows that more than two manufacturing jobs were added for every one job added in government at the federal, state, and local level. In contrast, under Obama, almost five government jobs were added for every one manufacturing job.

    After revising its data for past periods, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reports that seasonally adjusted nonfarm employment grew by 5.1 million jobs in President Trump’s first full two years in office, a 3.5% increase. Private sector payrolls grew by 4.9 million, a 4.0% increase.

    Federal government employment was flat during the Obama years, but don't the facts fuck you up.
    And manufacturing jobs?
    They are up under both. Manufacturing employment is less than 9% of the workforce in the US. This isn't exactly a return to the 1950s. No one has specified when America was Great Before, so comparisons are difficult.
    You said government hiring was flat under Obama yet it was 5 times more than manufacturing jobs under Obama

    That may be "up under both" but is a dishonest use of statistics at best

    They are 'Up a hell of a lot more" under Trump may have been what you were looking for

    Math is hard
    Are we great again yet?
    I'd change the subject too if I were you
    Just asking whether these minor increases in manufacturing employment have you yearning to watch some Ozzie and Harriet reruns.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,030 Founders Club
    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/444286-consumer-sentiment-in-us-hits-15-year-high-report

    Bad news for H. Good news for America

    As I was googling through this subject I noted several articles on how Americans don't care about the economy anymore

    As sure as sign as you will find that the economy is doing very good

    Keep hope alive maybe the trade war will cause a depression like the experts keep telling us. Fingers crossed
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/444286-consumer-sentiment-in-us-hits-15-year-high-report

    Bad news for H. Good news for America

    As I was googling through this subject I noted several articles on how Americans don't care about the economy anymore

    As sure as sign as you will find that the economy is doing very good

    Keep hope alive maybe the trade war will cause a depression like the experts keep telling us. Fingers crossed

    Experts? The “yield curve” is prompting warnings. The yield curve is a function of investor sentiments and outlooks, and where profit (or protection) is best extracted. It’s a creature of a free market economy outside federal government protectionist policy making that you prefer, and that’s the reason you don’t understand.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,030 Founders Club

    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/444286-consumer-sentiment-in-us-hits-15-year-high-report

    Bad news for H. Good news for America

    As I was googling through this subject I noted several articles on how Americans don't care about the economy anymore

    As sure as sign as you will find that the economy is doing very good

    Keep hope alive maybe the trade war will cause a depression like the experts keep telling us. Fingers crossed

    Experts? The “yield curve” is prompting warnings. The yield curve is a function of investor sentiments and outlooks, and where profit (or protection) is best extracted. It’s a creature of a free market economy outside federal government protectionist policy making that you prefer, and that’s the reason you don’t understand.
    Keep hope alive

    Bad trade deals are GOOD for America

    We shouldn't expect anything better

    There is no free market with China

    There might be someday if weak willed spineless idiots like you don't have anything to do with it
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/444286-consumer-sentiment-in-us-hits-15-year-high-report

    Bad news for H. Good news for America

    As I was googling through this subject I noted several articles on how Americans don't care about the economy anymore

    As sure as sign as you will find that the economy is doing very good

    Keep hope alive maybe the trade war will cause a depression like the experts keep telling us. Fingers crossed

    Experts? The “yield curve” is prompting warnings. The yield curve is a function of investor sentiments and outlooks, and where profit (or protection) is best extracted. It’s a creature of a free market economy outside federal government protectionist policy making that you prefer, and that’s the reason you don’t understand.
    Keep hope alive

    Bad trade deals are GOOD for America

    We shouldn't expect anything better

    There is no free market with China

    There might be someday if weak willed spineless idiots like you don't have anything to do with it
    I am not the yield curve. I hope you feel better someday.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,030 Founders Club
    I feel great

    China is our enemy. And they own Biden

    Not a tough call at all
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    El Monte boy thinks China IP piracy is just part of the "free market."
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    SFGbob said:

    El Monte boy thinks China IP piracy is just part of the "free market."

    I knew you’d reduce yourself to the level of communist China. It’s what hopelessly uncompetitive people do.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    El Monte boy thinks China IP piracy is just part of the "free market."

    I knew you’d reduce yourself to the level of communist China. It’s what hopelessly uncompetitive people do.
    I knew you'd post some barely coherent gibberish. It's what El Monte boy the lightweight Kunt does.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    El Monte boy thinks China IP piracy is just part of the "free market."

    I knew you’d reduce yourself to the level of communist China. It’s what hopelessly uncompetitive people do.
    I knew you'd post some barely coherent gibberish. It's what El Monte boy the lightweight Kunt does.
    Your ignore function still isn’t working GayBob.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,030 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    El Monte boy thinks China IP piracy is just part of the "free market."

    I knew you’d reduce yourself to the level of communist China. It’s what hopelessly uncompetitive people do.
    I like AMERICA in this one

    Who are you rooting for? Rhetorical
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    El Monte boy thinks China IP piracy is just part of the "free market."

    I knew you’d reduce yourself to the level of communist China. It’s what hopelessly uncompetitive people do.
    I knew you'd post some barely coherent gibberish. It's what El Monte boy the lightweight Kunt does.
    Your ignore function still isn’t working GayBob.
    Yeah the ignore function here works about as well as your brain El Monte. So tell me El Monte, how did I reduce myself to the level of Communist China? Cue the Kunt gibberish.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    So

    Deficits matter now Damone. Please try to keep up.