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Pay the players fucktards - this will really make you smile
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Players should be paid. . .but no more than $15.00 an hour. -
Pull scholarships,
Charge all players an appearance fee
Credit back to players revenues above expenses including general university overhead and rights fees. -
That would be a cut in pay. What's up with that?tracker said:
Players should be paid. . .but no more than $15.00 an hour.
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As Harvey said, you've been out over your skis for a while now.CollegeDoog said:
I thought you knew shit about economics.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like a big Mitt supporter.CollegeDoog said:
This is where your argument falls apart.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Free education and publicity is a form of pay. It reaps dollars later on down the road.ApostleofGrief said:I don't know. Times change. There is a tremendous amount of money in cfb, but it is not going to the people playing the game.
It's not an education close to the value of the scholarship because schools subvert the entire process. UNC got caught creating fake classes for athletes. The sociology majors most of these kids are pushed through are worthless. Half of them are semi-literate.
The publicity point is oh so fucking stupd. Who generates the publicity? The players. Where does the money go? The NCAA and its member schools. This trickles down to the administrators and coaches.
For instance, the NCAA has. 770 million dollar deal with CBS to broadcast college basketball for just 3 weekends in March. Players see 0 of that revenue.
Most of them (97%) won't go pro so what the fuck is the value of that publicity when they don't see any money from it.
I thought you were the guy who hated corporate greed and the exploit of a work force. Revenue generating athletes are not receiving anything close to their actual value in a free market.
Hope this helps.
The players should call bullshit on this travesty and quit.
It's been a rough day for Damone.
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* How do fake classes in sociology prepare you any less better to step out into the world than reel classes on gender in antiquity?CollegeDoog said:
This is where your argument falls apart.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Free education and publicity is a form of pay. It reaps dollars later on down the road.ApostleofGrief said:I don't know. Times change. There is a tremendous amount of money in cfb, but it is not going to the people playing the game.
It's not an education close to the value of the scholarship because schools subvert the entire process. UNC got caught creating fake classes for athletes. The sociology majors most of these kids are pushed through are worthless. Half of them are semi-literate.
The publicity point is oh so fucking stupd. Who generates the publicity? The players. Where does the money go? The NCAA and its member schools. This trickles down to the administrators and coaches.
For instance, the NCAA has. 770 million dollar deal with CBS to broadcast college basketball for just 3 weekends in March. Players see 0 of that revenue.
Most of them (97%) won't go pro so what the fuck is the value of that publicity when they don't see any money from it.
I thought you were the guy who hated corporate greed and the exploit of a work force. Revenue generating athletes are not receiving anything close to their actual value in a free market.
Hope this helps.
* Oh, the players generate all the publicity. Alright. Then lets let the players go play by themselves on public football fields without the bright lights, the marketing machine, etc. behind them backing them up and see how much publicity they generate. Sure they generate a good portion of the publicity in CFB games, but without the framework of the schools and the NCAA behind them, they would be nothing.
* Again, with your basketball point. The players get national exposure. Those that end up making it to the NBA get there by having their talents exposed, which leads to big paychecks later on down the road. HTH. People who play college football and basketball are essentially enjoying 2 free educations. The 1st is the typical academic education. The second is the sports education. They are learning, and honing their skills for the NFL/NBA while not paying a dime to attain/improve skills they otherwise would not have the opportunity of attaining/utilizing.
* When it comes to college football I'm not very ideological. I want to see good games with good athletes. I already believe athletes are getting more than their fair share out of the deal in the form of an education, a platform to showcase their talents (which allows them to improve their future earnings potential), fame (if they're into that), and the opportunity to improve their skills by playing with and against the best athletes out there. The players at Northwestern think the NCAA is a dictatorship. Wrong. You can't leave a dictatorship. If Northwestern believes the NCAA is a dictatorship then they need to LEAVE. Personally I think the NCAA should kick them the fuck out before this little revolution spreads. The ideas you espouse will result in an NFL farm league and watered down crappy football. No thanks.
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oregonblitzkrieg said:
* How do fake classes in sociology prepare you any less better to step out into the world than reel classes on gender in antiquity?CollegeDoog said:
This is where your argument falls apart.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Free education and publicity is a form of pay. It reaps dollars later on down the road.ApostleofGrief said:I don't know. Times change. There is a tremendous amount of money in cfb, but it is not going to the people playing the game.
It's not an education close to the value of the scholarship because schools subvert the entire process. UNC got caught creating fake classes for athletes. The sociology majors most of these kids are pushed through are worthless. Half of them are semi-literate.
The publicity point is oh so fucking stupd. Who generates the publicity? The players. Where does the money go? The NCAA and its member schools. This trickles down to the administrators and coaches.
For instance, the NCAA has. 770 million dollar deal with CBS to broadcast college basketball for just 3 weekends in March. Players see 0 of that revenue.
Most of them (97%) won't go pro so what the fuck is the value of that publicity when they don't see any money from it.
I thought you were the guy who hated corporate greed and the exploit of a work force. Revenue generating athletes are not receiving anything close to their actual value in a free market.
Hope this helps.
What the fuck? Maybe if they didn't get pushed through bullshit majors. They wouldn't get paid for being students though. My point conveyed how the education of revenue generating athletes is poor, and the school plays a significant part in that.
* Oh, the players generate all the publicity. Alright. Then lets let the players go play by themselves on public football fields without the bright lights, the marketing machine, etc. behind them backing them up and see how much publicity they generate. Sure they generate a good portion of the publicity in CFB games, but without the framework of the schools and the NCAA behind them, they would be nothing.
Ok. So they don't at least deserve a share for their part? Something they don't get now. Let them license their names and share part of the enormous TV revenue that is generated by us watching THEM.
* Again, with your basketball point. The players get national exposure. Those that end up making it to the NBA get there by having their talents exposed, which leads to big paychecks later on down the road. HTH. People who play college football and basketball are essentially enjoying 2 free educations. The 1st is the typical academic education. The second is the sports education. They are learning, and honing their skills for the NFL/NBA while not paying a dime to attain/improve skills they otherwise would not have the opportunity of attaining/utilizing.
The 3% of them... cmon man. You have to realize how terrible of an argument that is. What about the players who get the big paychecks but have terrible money management skills?
"A Sports Illustrated article reports the grim statistics -- 78 percent of NFL players face bankruptcy or serious financial stress within just two years of leaving the game and 60 percent of NBA players face the same dire results in five years."
Letting the players earn money in college might help them actually learn how to manage their money when become a professional.
* When it comes to college football I'm not very ideological. I want to see good games with good athletes. I already believe athletes are getting more than their fair share out of the deal in the form of an education, a platform to showcase their talents (which allows them to improve their future earnings potential), fame (if they're into that), and the opportunity to improve their skills by playing with and against the best athletes out there. The players at Northwestern think the NCAA is a dictatorship. Wrong. You can't leave a dictatorship. If Northwestern believes the NCAA is a dictatorship then they need to LEAVE. Personally I think the NCAA should kick them the fuck out before this little revolution spreads. The ideas you espouse will result in an NFL farm league and watered down crappy football. No thanks.
Players unionizing might actually be the best thing to shield the NCAA from the fallout of the Ed O'bannon lawsuit.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-29/ncaa-should-be-begging-for-a-union.html -
http://assets.usw.org/ncpa/pdfs/6-Billion-Heist-Study_Full.pdf
Granted it's NCPA supported, but these are interesting findings.
There will never be a way for players to gain full fair market value outlined here but it shows just how ridiculous the NCAA is. There needs to be a much better balance. -
Fucking pay me already for paying to watch an amateur sporting event.
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Why don't you stop watching college football?CollegeDoog said:http://assets.usw.org/ncpa/pdfs/6-Billion-Heist-Study_Full.pdf
Granted it's NCPA supported, but these are interesting findings.
There will never be a way for players to gain full fair market value outlined here but it shows just how ridiculous the NCAA is. There needs to be a much better balance. -
I don't watch it for the amateurism. I watch it for the entertainment. I'm sure you do to.RaceBannon said:
Why don't you stop watching college football?CollegeDoog said:http://assets.usw.org/ncpa/pdfs/6-Billion-Heist-Study_Full.pdf
Granted it's NCPA supported, but these are interesting findings.
There will never be a way for players to gain full fair market value outlined here but it shows just how ridiculous the NCAA is. There needs to be a much better balance.
There is no component of amateurism in it that holds my interest. I just want to watch Washington win.
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