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Jake Haener fucking sucks.
Finally caught him in that Spring Fling Thing, and he was terrible. I've already seen enough to know his QB IQ is about 30 points too low. Get him out before he ruins the whole QB Room.
Finally caught him in that Spring Fling Thing, and he was terrible. I've already seen enough to know his QB IQ is about 30 points too low. Get him out before he ruins the whole QB Room.
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You mean like the NDSU game?TurdBomber said:Jake Haener fucking sucks.
Finally caught him in that Spring Fling Thing, and he was terrible. I've already seen enough to know his QB IQ is about 30 points too low. Get him out before he ruins the whole QB Room.
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Look at how 4 years of Browning has crippled our standards & expectations at QB.HuskyJW said:
You mean like the NDSU game?TurdBomber said:Jake Haener fucking sucks.
Finally caught him in that Spring Fling Thing, and he was terrible. I've already seen enough to know his QB IQ is about 30 points too low. Get him out before he ruins the whole QB Room.
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Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
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BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
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Who cares? RUN THE FUCKING FOOTBALL!!!
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His arm strength isn't there, either, which is why he's straining himself on every throw. The kid just doesn't have IT, in multiple categories. Why is he even here?Dennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die. -
UW ran the football a lot last year and won 10 games. With a quality QB, UW wins 12, rather easily.backthepack said:Who cares? RUN THE FUCKING FOOTBALL!!!
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Off top Nick Harris, Dissly, Myles Bryant, Ezekiel Turner, Littleton and Sample are successful try hardsDennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die. -
GMFG, Dissly, Sample, Rapp, Shelton (Coleman).Dennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
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Anyone got a link for that spring fling thing? I think it got pulled off the youtubes.
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I gotchuGwad said:Anyone got a link for that spring fling thing? I think it got pulled off the youtubes.
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Dissly is not a try hard in any sense. He had big time physical characteristics. Sample either.Doogles said:
Off top Nick Harris, Dissly, Myles Bryant, Ezekiel Turner, Littleton and Sample are successful try hardsDennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Too wrapped up in stars. Try hards are guys who have to try harder because they don’t have the physical characteristics.
Bryant and Harris, sure. Littleton is just a normal dude. Same with Turner.
Look at Sample’s combine numbers - no fucking way is he a try hard. Nothing to overcome.
Bryant and Harris are hard nuts to crack, but I would give it to them.
If you have a team full of Dexter Lawrences and Trevor Lawrences, you can have a guy like Renfrow who makes a lot of plays with quickness and smarts (he and Bryant are really similar). However, they can only be successful when they are a change of pace or strategy.
BBK still got washed against tOSU, but he’s truly big time in backside pursuit.
And I’m a guy who can appreciate when a man is great in backside pursuit. -
Just because you're a big dude doesn't mean you can't be a try-hard. I doubt anyone expected Gaines, Sample, and Dissly to be be NFL draft picks based on their high school physical characteristics. Just like BBK, they tried hard and got there. It's weird that you're whittling down the try-hard definition to small white guy so that it only includes BBK.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Dissly is not a try hard in any sense. He had big time physical characteristics. Sample either.Doogles said:
Off top Nick Harris, Dissly, Myles Bryant, Ezekiel Turner, Littleton and Sample are successful try hardsDennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Too wrapped up in stars. Try hards are guys who have to try harder because they don’t have the physical characteristics.
Bryant and Harris, sure. Littleton is just a normal dude. Same with Turner.
Look at Sample’s combine numbers - no fucking way is he a try hard. Nothing to overcome.
Bryant and Harris are hard nuts to crack, but I would give it to them.
If you have a team full of Dexter Lawrences and Trevor Lawrences, you can have a guy like Renfrow who makes a lot of plays with quickness and smarts (he and Bryant are really similar). However, they can only be successful when they are a change of pace or strategy.
BBK still got washed against tOSU, but he’s truly big time in backside pursuit.
And I’m a guy who can appreciate when a man is great in backside pursuit. -
If BBK is a try hard, how is Gaskin not one?
Like BBK, Gaskin is good because of his smarts, quickness,intelligence, and any other adjective used to describe a try hard. There is nothing that physically jumps out about Gaskin. -
First one in the gym, last one to leave.RoadDawg55 said:If BBK is a try hard, how is Gaskin not one?
Like BBK, Gaskin is good because of his smarts, quickness,intelligence, and any other adjective used to describe a try hard. There is nothing that physically jumps out about Gaskin. -
Melanin.RoadDawg55 said:If BBK is a try hard, how is Gaskin not one?
Like BBK, Gaskin is good because of his smarts, quickness,intelligence, and any other adjective used to describe a try hard. There is nothing that physically jumps out about Gaskin. -
It’s true. For everytime Gaskin made a coed shit themselves, BBK’s presence made a DDY wannabe shit themself.RoadDawg55 said:If BBK is a try hard, how is Gaskin not one?
Like BBK, Gaskin is good because of his smarts, quickness,intelligence, and any other adjective used to describe a try hard. There is nothing that physically jumps out about Gaskin.
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What is the common thread about the guys you mentioned... I'm trying to sense it... trying... hmmm... what could it be?CallMeBigErn said:
Just because you're a big dude doesn't mean you can't be a try-hard. I doubt anyone expected Gaines, Sample, and Dissly to be be NFL draft picks based on their high school physical characteristics. Just like BBK, they tried hard and got there. It's weird that you're whittling down the try-hard definition to small white guy so that it only includes BBK.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Dissly is not a try hard in any sense. He had big time physical characteristics. Sample either.Doogles said:
Off top Nick Harris, Dissly, Myles Bryant, Ezekiel Turner, Littleton and Sample are successful try hardsDennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Too wrapped up in stars. Try hards are guys who have to try harder because they don’t have the physical characteristics.
Bryant and Harris, sure. Littleton is just a normal dude. Same with Turner.
Look at Sample’s combine numbers - no fucking way is he a try hard. Nothing to overcome.
Bryant and Harris are hard nuts to crack, but I would give it to them.
If you have a team full of Dexter Lawrences and Trevor Lawrences, you can have a guy like Renfrow who makes a lot of plays with quickness and smarts (he and Bryant are really similar). However, they can only be successful when they are a change of pace or strategy.
BBK still got washed against tOSU, but he’s truly big time in backside pursuit.
And I’m a guy who can appreciate when a man is great in backside pursuit. -
Bryant & Harris are white?CallMeBigErn said:
Just because you're a big dude doesn't mean you can't be a try-hard. I doubt anyone expected Gaines, Sample, and Dissly to be be NFL draft picks based on their high school physical characteristics. Just like BBK, they tried hard and got there. It's weird that you're whittling down the try-hard definition to small white guy so that it only includes BBK.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Dissly is not a try hard in any sense. He had big time physical characteristics. Sample either.Doogles said:
Off top Nick Harris, Dissly, Myles Bryant, Ezekiel Turner, Littleton and Sample are successful try hardsDennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Too wrapped up in stars. Try hards are guys who have to try harder because they don’t have the physical characteristics.
Bryant and Harris, sure. Littleton is just a normal dude. Same with Turner.
Look at Sample’s combine numbers - no fucking way is he a try hard. Nothing to overcome.
Bryant and Harris are hard nuts to crack, but I would give it to them.
If you have a team full of Dexter Lawrences and Trevor Lawrences, you can have a guy like Renfrow who makes a lot of plays with quickness and smarts (he and Bryant are really similar). However, they can only be successful when they are a change of pace or strategy.
BBK still got washed against tOSU, but he’s truly big time in backside pursuit.
And I’m a guy who can appreciate when a man is great in backside pursuit. -
CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Bryant & Harris are white?CallMeBigErn said:
Just because you're a big dude doesn't mean you can't be a try-hard. I doubt anyone expected Gaines, Sample, and Dissly to be be NFL draft picks based on their high school physical characteristics. Just like BBK, they tried hard and got there. It's weird that you're whittling down the try-hard definition to small white guy so that it only includes BBK.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Dissly is not a try hard in any sense. He had big time physical characteristics. Sample either.Doogles said:
Off top Nick Harris, Dissly, Myles Bryant, Ezekiel Turner, Littleton and Sample are successful try hardsDennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Too wrapped up in stars. Try hards are guys who have to try harder because they don’t have the physical characteristics.
Bryant and Harris, sure. Littleton is just a normal dude. Same with Turner.
Look at Sample’s combine numbers - no fucking way is he a try hard. Nothing to overcome.
Bryant and Harris are hard nuts to crack, but I would give it to them.
If you have a team full of Dexter Lawrences and Trevor Lawrences, you can have a guy like Renfrow who makes a lot of plays with quickness and smarts (he and Bryant are really similar). However, they can only be successful when they are a change of pace or strategy.
BBK still got washed against tOSU, but he’s truly big time in backside pursuit.
And I’m a guy who can appreciate when a man is great in backside pursuit.
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Dennis_DeYoung said:
What is the common thread about the guys you mentioned... I'm trying to sense it... trying... hmmm... what could it be?CallMeBigErn said:
Just because you're a big dude doesn't mean you can't be a try-hard. I doubt anyone expected Gaines, Sample, and Dissly to be be NFL draft picks based on their high school physical characteristics. Just like BBK, they tried hard and got there. It's weird that you're whittling down the try-hard definition to small white guy so that it only includes BBK.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Dissly is not a try hard in any sense. He had big time physical characteristics. Sample either.Doogles said:
Off top Nick Harris, Dissly, Myles Bryant, Ezekiel Turner, Littleton and Sample are successful try hardsDennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Too wrapped up in stars. Try hards are guys who have to try harder because they don’t have the physical characteristics.
Bryant and Harris, sure. Littleton is just a normal dude. Same with Turner.
Look at Sample’s combine numbers - no fucking way is he a try hard. Nothing to overcome.
Bryant and Harris are hard nuts to crack, but I would give it to them.
If you have a team full of Dexter Lawrences and Trevor Lawrences, you can have a guy like Renfrow who makes a lot of plays with quickness and smarts (he and Bryant are really similar). However, they can only be successful when they are a change of pace or strategy.
BBK still got washed against tOSU, but he’s truly big time in backside pursuit.
And I’m a guy who can appreciate when a man is great in backside pursuit.
I was listing some other successful white ACTUAL try-hards that we've had. Understand now?Dennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die. -
Gaines wasn’t a try hard. He was making plays as a RS Freshman because he was talented as fuck. He was drafted in the 4th round of the NFL because he is talented as fuck. Just because he is white and an inch too short doesn’t mean he is a try hard. He’s oozing talent.CallMeBigErn said:Dennis_DeYoung said:
What is the common thread about the guys you mentioned... I'm trying to sense it... trying... hmmm... what could it be?CallMeBigErn said:
Just because you're a big dude doesn't mean you can't be a try-hard. I doubt anyone expected Gaines, Sample, and Dissly to be be NFL draft picks based on their high school physical characteristics. Just like BBK, they tried hard and got there. It's weird that you're whittling down the try-hard definition to small white guy so that it only includes BBK.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Dissly is not a try hard in any sense. He had big time physical characteristics. Sample either.Doogles said:
Off top Nick Harris, Dissly, Myles Bryant, Ezekiel Turner, Littleton and Sample are successful try hardsDennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Too wrapped up in stars. Try hards are guys who have to try harder because they don’t have the physical characteristics.
Bryant and Harris, sure. Littleton is just a normal dude. Same with Turner.
Look at Sample’s combine numbers - no fucking way is he a try hard. Nothing to overcome.
Bryant and Harris are hard nuts to crack, but I would give it to them.
If you have a team full of Dexter Lawrences and Trevor Lawrences, you can have a guy like Renfrow who makes a lot of plays with quickness and smarts (he and Bryant are really similar). However, they can only be successful when they are a change of pace or strategy.
BBK still got washed against tOSU, but he’s truly big time in backside pursuit.
And I’m a guy who can appreciate when a man is great in backside pursuit.
I was listing some other successful white ACTUAL try-hards that we've had. Understand now?Dennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Sample and Dissly have ideal TE size, soft hands, and have perfect blocking technique so they own defenders. They were drafted in the 2nd and 4th round because they are talented as fuck. Just because they are white doesn’t mean they are try hards. They are oozing talent.
Try hards are trying hard because they lack talent or measurables. You didn’t list any ACTUAL try hards. -
It's almost as if DDY is biased in favor of fast strategy black athletes over try-hard white kids.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Melanin.RoadDawg55 said:If BBK is a try hard, how is Gaskin not one?
Like BBK, Gaskin is good because of his smarts, quickness,intelligence, and any other adjective used to describe a try hard. There is nothing that physically jumps out about Gaskin.
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I fail to understand how BBK is any different than those guys. They all weren't big time talents coming out of high school with big time offers. They all got developed. BBK also ended up with some excellent measurables. They're all either try-hards or they're all not.DoogCourics said:
Gaines wasn’t a try hard. He was making plays as a RS Freshman because he was talented as fuck. He was drafted in the 4th round of the NFL because he is talented as fuck. Just because he is white and an inch too short doesn’t mean he is a try hard. He’s oozing talent.CallMeBigErn said:Dennis_DeYoung said:
What is the common thread about the guys you mentioned... I'm trying to sense it... trying... hmmm... what could it be?CallMeBigErn said:
Just because you're a big dude doesn't mean you can't be a try-hard. I doubt anyone expected Gaines, Sample, and Dissly to be be NFL draft picks based on their high school physical characteristics. Just like BBK, they tried hard and got there. It's weird that you're whittling down the try-hard definition to small white guy so that it only includes BBK.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Dissly is not a try hard in any sense. He had big time physical characteristics. Sample either.Doogles said:
Off top Nick Harris, Dissly, Myles Bryant, Ezekiel Turner, Littleton and Sample are successful try hardsDennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Too wrapped up in stars. Try hards are guys who have to try harder because they don’t have the physical characteristics.
Bryant and Harris, sure. Littleton is just a normal dude. Same with Turner.
Look at Sample’s combine numbers - no fucking way is he a try hard. Nothing to overcome.
Bryant and Harris are hard nuts to crack, but I would give it to them.
If you have a team full of Dexter Lawrences and Trevor Lawrences, you can have a guy like Renfrow who makes a lot of plays with quickness and smarts (he and Bryant are really similar). However, they can only be successful when they are a change of pace or strategy.
BBK still got washed against tOSU, but he’s truly big time in backside pursuit.
And I’m a guy who can appreciate when a man is great in backside pursuit.
I was listing some other successful white ACTUAL try-hards that we've had. Understand now?Dennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Sample and Dissly have ideal TE size, soft hands, and have perfect blocking technique so they own defenders. They were drafted in the 2nd and 4th round because they are talented as fuck. Just because they are white doesn’t mean they are try hards. They are oozing talent.
Try hards are trying hard because they lack talent or measurables. You didn’t list any ACTUAL try hards. -
I didn’t say shit about BBK, take your grievances up with DDY.CallMeBigErn said:
I fail to understand how BBK is any different than those guys. They all weren't big time talents coming out of high school with big time offers. They all got developed. BBK also ended up with some excellent measurables. They're all either try-hards or they're all not.DoogCourics said:
Gaines wasn’t a try hard. He was making plays as a RS Freshman because he was talented as fuck. He was drafted in the 4th round of the NFL because he is talented as fuck. Just because he is white and an inch too short doesn’t mean he is a try hard. He’s oozing talent.CallMeBigErn said:Dennis_DeYoung said:
What is the common thread about the guys you mentioned... I'm trying to sense it... trying... hmmm... what could it be?CallMeBigErn said:
Just because you're a big dude doesn't mean you can't be a try-hard. I doubt anyone expected Gaines, Sample, and Dissly to be be NFL draft picks based on their high school physical characteristics. Just like BBK, they tried hard and got there. It's weird that you're whittling down the try-hard definition to small white guy so that it only includes BBK.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Dissly is not a try hard in any sense. He had big time physical characteristics. Sample either.Doogles said:
Off top Nick Harris, Dissly, Myles Bryant, Ezekiel Turner, Littleton and Sample are successful try hardsDennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Too wrapped up in stars. Try hards are guys who have to try harder because they don’t have the physical characteristics.
Bryant and Harris, sure. Littleton is just a normal dude. Same with Turner.
Look at Sample’s combine numbers - no fucking way is he a try hard. Nothing to overcome.
Bryant and Harris are hard nuts to crack, but I would give it to them.
If you have a team full of Dexter Lawrences and Trevor Lawrences, you can have a guy like Renfrow who makes a lot of plays with quickness and smarts (he and Bryant are really similar). However, they can only be successful when they are a change of pace or strategy.
BBK still got washed against tOSU, but he’s truly big time in backside pursuit.
And I’m a guy who can appreciate when a man is great in backside pursuit.
I was listing some other successful white ACTUAL try-hards that we've had. Understand now?Dennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Sample and Dissly have ideal TE size, soft hands, and have perfect blocking technique so they own defenders. They were drafted in the 2nd and 4th round because they are talented as fuck. Just because they are white doesn’t mean they are try hards. They are oozing talent.
Try hards are trying hard because they lack talent or measurables. You didn’t list any ACTUAL try hards.
I was merely addressing your hot takes on Gains, Dissly, and Sample.
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I think what BigErn is getting at is: Is Brandon Wellington a try hard?DoogCourics said:
I didn’t say shit about BBK, take your grievances up with DDY.CallMeBigErn said:
I fail to understand how BBK is any different than those guys. They all weren't big time talents coming out of high school with big time offers. They all got developed. BBK also ended up with some excellent measurables. They're all either try-hards or they're all not.DoogCourics said:
Gaines wasn’t a try hard. He was making plays as a RS Freshman because he was talented as fuck. He was drafted in the 4th round of the NFL because he is talented as fuck. Just because he is white and an inch too short doesn’t mean he is a try hard. He’s oozing talent.CallMeBigErn said:Dennis_DeYoung said:
What is the common thread about the guys you mentioned... I'm trying to sense it... trying... hmmm... what could it be?CallMeBigErn said:
Just because you're a big dude doesn't mean you can't be a try-hard. I doubt anyone expected Gaines, Sample, and Dissly to be be NFL draft picks based on their high school physical characteristics. Just like BBK, they tried hard and got there. It's weird that you're whittling down the try-hard definition to small white guy so that it only includes BBK.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Dissly is not a try hard in any sense. He had big time physical characteristics. Sample either.Doogles said:
Off top Nick Harris, Dissly, Myles Bryant, Ezekiel Turner, Littleton and Sample are successful try hardsDennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Too wrapped up in stars. Try hards are guys who have to try harder because they don’t have the physical characteristics.
Bryant and Harris, sure. Littleton is just a normal dude. Same with Turner.
Look at Sample’s combine numbers - no fucking way is he a try hard. Nothing to overcome.
Bryant and Harris are hard nuts to crack, but I would give it to them.
If you have a team full of Dexter Lawrences and Trevor Lawrences, you can have a guy like Renfrow who makes a lot of plays with quickness and smarts (he and Bryant are really similar). However, they can only be successful when they are a change of pace or strategy.
BBK still got washed against tOSU, but he’s truly big time in backside pursuit.
And I’m a guy who can appreciate when a man is great in backside pursuit.
I was listing some other successful white ACTUAL try-hards that we've had. Understand now?Dennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Sample and Dissly have ideal TE size, soft hands, and have perfect blocking technique so they own defenders. They were drafted in the 2nd and 4th round because they are talented as fuck. Just because they are white doesn’t mean they are try hards. They are oozing talent.
Try hards are trying hard because they lack talent or measurables. You didn’t list any ACTUAL try hards.
I was merely addressing your hot takes on Gains, Dissly, and Sample.
Because, going off of 247's data coming in:
Ben Burr-Kirven: 6'0", 221 lbs (actual freshman measurables: 6'0", 201 lbs.)
Brandon Wellington: 6'0", 221 lbs. (actual freshman measureables: 5'11", 216 lbs.)
BBK is faster.
So are we talking about melanin or what? -
Again, I didn’t say BBK was a try hard. I was saying Gaines, Sample, and Dissly were not try hards.1to392831weretaken said:
I think what BigErn is getting at is: Is Brandon Wellington a try hard?DoogCourics said:
I didn’t say shit about BBK, take your grievances up with DDY.CallMeBigErn said:
I fail to understand how BBK is any different than those guys. They all weren't big time talents coming out of high school with big time offers. They all got developed. BBK also ended up with some excellent measurables. They're all either try-hards or they're all not.DoogCourics said:
Gaines wasn’t a try hard. He was making plays as a RS Freshman because he was talented as fuck. He was drafted in the 4th round of the NFL because he is talented as fuck. Just because he is white and an inch too short doesn’t mean he is a try hard. He’s oozing talent.CallMeBigErn said:Dennis_DeYoung said:
What is the common thread about the guys you mentioned... I'm trying to sense it... trying... hmmm... what could it be?CallMeBigErn said:
Just because you're a big dude doesn't mean you can't be a try-hard. I doubt anyone expected Gaines, Sample, and Dissly to be be NFL draft picks based on their high school physical characteristics. Just like BBK, they tried hard and got there. It's weird that you're whittling down the try-hard definition to small white guy so that it only includes BBK.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Dissly is not a try hard in any sense. He had big time physical characteristics. Sample either.Doogles said:
Off top Nick Harris, Dissly, Myles Bryant, Ezekiel Turner, Littleton and Sample are successful try hardsDennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Too wrapped up in stars. Try hards are guys who have to try harder because they don’t have the physical characteristics.
Bryant and Harris, sure. Littleton is just a normal dude. Same with Turner.
Look at Sample’s combine numbers - no fucking way is he a try hard. Nothing to overcome.
Bryant and Harris are hard nuts to crack, but I would give it to them.
If you have a team full of Dexter Lawrences and Trevor Lawrences, you can have a guy like Renfrow who makes a lot of plays with quickness and smarts (he and Bryant are really similar). However, they can only be successful when they are a change of pace or strategy.
BBK still got washed against tOSU, but he’s truly big time in backside pursuit.
And I’m a guy who can appreciate when a man is great in backside pursuit.
I was listing some other successful white ACTUAL try-hards that we've had. Understand now?Dennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Sample and Dissly have ideal TE size, soft hands, and have perfect blocking technique so they own defenders. They were drafted in the 2nd and 4th round because they are talented as fuck. Just because they are white doesn’t mean they are try hards. They are oozing talent.
Try hards are trying hard because they lack talent or measurables. You didn’t list any ACTUAL try hards.
I was merely addressing your hot takes on Gains, Dissly, and Sample.
Because, going off of 247's data coming in:
Ben Burr-Kirven: 6'0", 221 lbs (actual freshman measurables: 6'0", 201 lbs.)
Brandon Wellington: 6'0", 221 lbs. (actual freshman measureables: 5'11", 216 lbs.)
BBK is faster.
So are we talking about melanin or what?
Take BBK grievances up with someone else. -
Gotcha. I think the confusion comes from you defending those other three players but not BBK. Makes it seem like you're endorsing the "BBK is a try-hard" narrative. BBK, for a linebacker, has elite speed and always did. If "having elite physical attributes" includes speed, I'd think you'd include him in your anti-try-hard defense.DoogCourics said:
Again, I didn’t say BBK was a try hard. I was saying Gaines, Sample, and Dissly were not try hards.1to392831weretaken said:
I think what BigErn is getting at is: Is Brandon Wellington a try hard?DoogCourics said:
I didn’t say shit about BBK, take your grievances up with DDY.CallMeBigErn said:
I fail to understand how BBK is any different than those guys. They all weren't big time talents coming out of high school with big time offers. They all got developed. BBK also ended up with some excellent measurables. They're all either try-hards or they're all not.DoogCourics said:
Gaines wasn’t a try hard. He was making plays as a RS Freshman because he was talented as fuck. He was drafted in the 4th round of the NFL because he is talented as fuck. Just because he is white and an inch too short doesn’t mean he is a try hard. He’s oozing talent.CallMeBigErn said:Dennis_DeYoung said:
What is the common thread about the guys you mentioned... I'm trying to sense it... trying... hmmm... what could it be?CallMeBigErn said:
Just because you're a big dude doesn't mean you can't be a try-hard. I doubt anyone expected Gaines, Sample, and Dissly to be be NFL draft picks based on their high school physical characteristics. Just like BBK, they tried hard and got there. It's weird that you're whittling down the try-hard definition to small white guy so that it only includes BBK.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Dissly is not a try hard in any sense. He had big time physical characteristics. Sample either.Doogles said:
Off top Nick Harris, Dissly, Myles Bryant, Ezekiel Turner, Littleton and Sample are successful try hardsDennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Too wrapped up in stars. Try hards are guys who have to try harder because they don’t have the physical characteristics.
Bryant and Harris, sure. Littleton is just a normal dude. Same with Turner.
Look at Sample’s combine numbers - no fucking way is he a try hard. Nothing to overcome.
Bryant and Harris are hard nuts to crack, but I would give it to them.
If you have a team full of Dexter Lawrences and Trevor Lawrences, you can have a guy like Renfrow who makes a lot of plays with quickness and smarts (he and Bryant are really similar). However, they can only be successful when they are a change of pace or strategy.
BBK still got washed against tOSU, but he’s truly big time in backside pursuit.
And I’m a guy who can appreciate when a man is great in backside pursuit.
I was listing some other successful white ACTUAL try-hards that we've had. Understand now?Dennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Sample and Dissly have ideal TE size, soft hands, and have perfect blocking technique so they own defenders. They were drafted in the 2nd and 4th round because they are talented as fuck. Just because they are white doesn’t mean they are try hards. They are oozing talent.
Try hards are trying hard because they lack talent or measurables. You didn’t list any ACTUAL try hards.
I was merely addressing your hot takes on Gains, Dissly, and Sample.
Because, going off of 247's data coming in:
Ben Burr-Kirven: 6'0", 221 lbs (actual freshman measurables: 6'0", 201 lbs.)
Brandon Wellington: 6'0", 221 lbs. (actual freshman measureables: 5'11", 216 lbs.)
BBK is faster.
So are we talking about melanin or what?
Take BBK grievances up with someone else. -
Spot on. And quickness. To call BBK a try-hard and imply he somehow wasn't talented is one of the more asinine things I've ever seen, right next to Pete is a racist. What a coincidence that these fucktarded words come out of the same person's fingers.1to392831weretaken said:
Gotcha. I think the confusion comes from you defending those other three players but not BBK. Makes it seem like you're endorsing the "BBK is a try-hard" narrative. BBK, for a linebacker, has elite speed and always did. If "having elite physical attributes" includes speed, I'd think you'd include him in your anti-try-hard defense.DoogCourics said:
Again, I didn’t say BBK was a try hard. I was saying Gaines, Sample, and Dissly were not try hards.1to392831weretaken said:
I think what BigErn is getting at is: Is Brandon Wellington a try hard?DoogCourics said:
I didn’t say shit about BBK, take your grievances up with DDY.CallMeBigErn said:
I fail to understand how BBK is any different than those guys. They all weren't big time talents coming out of high school with big time offers. They all got developed. BBK also ended up with some excellent measurables. They're all either try-hards or they're all not.DoogCourics said:
Gaines wasn’t a try hard. He was making plays as a RS Freshman because he was talented as fuck. He was drafted in the 4th round of the NFL because he is talented as fuck. Just because he is white and an inch too short doesn’t mean he is a try hard. He’s oozing talent.CallMeBigErn said:Dennis_DeYoung said:
What is the common thread about the guys you mentioned... I'm trying to sense it... trying... hmmm... what could it be?CallMeBigErn said:
Just because you're a big dude doesn't mean you can't be a try-hard. I doubt anyone expected Gaines, Sample, and Dissly to be be NFL draft picks based on their high school physical characteristics. Just like BBK, they tried hard and got there. It's weird that you're whittling down the try-hard definition to small white guy so that it only includes BBK.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Dissly is not a try hard in any sense. He had big time physical characteristics. Sample either.Doogles said:
Off top Nick Harris, Dissly, Myles Bryant, Ezekiel Turner, Littleton and Sample are successful try hardsDennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Too wrapped up in stars. Try hards are guys who have to try harder because they don’t have the physical characteristics.
Bryant and Harris, sure. Littleton is just a normal dude. Same with Turner.
Look at Sample’s combine numbers - no fucking way is he a try hard. Nothing to overcome.
Bryant and Harris are hard nuts to crack, but I would give it to them.
If you have a team full of Dexter Lawrences and Trevor Lawrences, you can have a guy like Renfrow who makes a lot of plays with quickness and smarts (he and Bryant are really similar). However, they can only be successful when they are a change of pace or strategy.
BBK still got washed against tOSU, but he’s truly big time in backside pursuit.
And I’m a guy who can appreciate when a man is great in backside pursuit.
I was listing some other successful white ACTUAL try-hards that we've had. Understand now?Dennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Sample and Dissly have ideal TE size, soft hands, and have perfect blocking technique so they own defenders. They were drafted in the 2nd and 4th round because they are talented as fuck. Just because they are white doesn’t mean they are try hards. They are oozing talent.
Try hards are trying hard because they lack talent or measurables. You didn’t list any ACTUAL try hards.
I was merely addressing your hot takes on Gains, Dissly, and Sample.
Because, going off of 247's data coming in:
Ben Burr-Kirven: 6'0", 221 lbs (actual freshman measurables: 6'0", 201 lbs.)
Brandon Wellington: 6'0", 221 lbs. (actual freshman measureables: 5'11", 216 lbs.)
BBK is faster.
So are we talking about melanin or what?
Take BBK grievances up with someone else.
All these guys are NFL players with some great measurables/attributes and are great ex-Huskies. They all were "meh" recruits who developed their NFL talent at UW. You know, it is possible to improve your measurables and talent level in college. It's happened. I've seen it on SportsCenter. Just because you develop from a "meh" recruit into an NFL talent doesn't make you a try-hard. Or if it does, fuck it. Good for them. Or is it just BBK that is a try hard? I think I'm seeing BBK didn't/doesn't have talent but Gaines, Sample, Dissly were ooooooozing with it. They could have gone everywhere in the country! Their mailboxes were overflowing! Fuck outta here.
You know what, good for BBK. Good for all the underrated Husky recruits who turned into NFL players. If they're the definition of try hard, maybe it's proof that trying hard is a good way to get good at football so you can get drafted, fuck the cheer squad, and make it rain.
It's such a fucking stupid debate. I don't even know what I'm debating. I regret getting involved. Check, please. -
Wellington is more of a try-hard than Sample or Dissly. He, like BBK and Myles Bryant, definitely have to try harder due to lack of size, despite being athletic.1to392831weretaken said:
I think what BigErn is getting at is: Is Brandon Wellington a try hard?DoogCourics said:
I didn’t say shit about BBK, take your grievances up with DDY.CallMeBigErn said:
I fail to understand how BBK is any different than those guys. They all weren't big time talents coming out of high school with big time offers. They all got developed. BBK also ended up with some excellent measurables. They're all either try-hards or they're all not.DoogCourics said:
Gaines wasn’t a try hard. He was making plays as a RS Freshman because he was talented as fuck. He was drafted in the 4th round of the NFL because he is talented as fuck. Just because he is white and an inch too short doesn’t mean he is a try hard. He’s oozing talent.CallMeBigErn said:Dennis_DeYoung said:
What is the common thread about the guys you mentioned... I'm trying to sense it... trying... hmmm... what could it be?CallMeBigErn said:
Just because you're a big dude doesn't mean you can't be a try-hard. I doubt anyone expected Gaines, Sample, and Dissly to be be NFL draft picks based on their high school physical characteristics. Just like BBK, they tried hard and got there. It's weird that you're whittling down the try-hard definition to small white guy so that it only includes BBK.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Dissly is not a try hard in any sense. He had big time physical characteristics. Sample either.Doogles said:
Off top Nick Harris, Dissly, Myles Bryant, Ezekiel Turner, Littleton and Sample are successful try hardsDennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Too wrapped up in stars. Try hards are guys who have to try harder because they don’t have the physical characteristics.
Bryant and Harris, sure. Littleton is just a normal dude. Same with Turner.
Look at Sample’s combine numbers - no fucking way is he a try hard. Nothing to overcome.
Bryant and Harris are hard nuts to crack, but I would give it to them.
If you have a team full of Dexter Lawrences and Trevor Lawrences, you can have a guy like Renfrow who makes a lot of plays with quickness and smarts (he and Bryant are really similar). However, they can only be successful when they are a change of pace or strategy.
BBK still got washed against tOSU, but he’s truly big time in backside pursuit.
And I’m a guy who can appreciate when a man is great in backside pursuit.
I was listing some other successful white ACTUAL try-hards that we've had. Understand now?Dennis_DeYoung said:
BBK was the only successful white ACTUAL try hard we’ve really had. Everyone else has either been a fraud (Brownsocks) or a fuckbag without talent (Haener).GreenRiverGatorz said:Too many here keep trying to label him a "classic Pete try hard", solely because he's short and white. He's quite the opposite though. He's a gun slinger with decent mobility, subpar accuracy, and absolutely horrible decision making.
I want to die.
Sample and Dissly have ideal TE size, soft hands, and have perfect blocking technique so they own defenders. They were drafted in the 2nd and 4th round because they are talented as fuck. Just because they are white doesn’t mean they are try hards. They are oozing talent.
Try hards are trying hard because they lack talent or measurables. You didn’t list any ACTUAL try hards.
I was merely addressing your hot takes on Gains, Dissly, and Sample.
Because, going off of 247's data coming in:
Ben Burr-Kirven: 6'0", 221 lbs (actual freshman measurables: 6'0", 201 lbs.)
Brandon Wellington: 6'0", 221 lbs. (actual freshman measureables: 5'11", 216 lbs.)
BBK is faster.
So are we talking about melanin or what?
