Ronald Reagan interviewed by Johnny Carson (before he was president)

Pitchfork51 said:

I don't even know what conservatism is.

I just think the left is pathetic, incompetent, full of pussies, and for some reason super smug about it.

"I've never succeeded at anything in life! My team always loses! But we are in the right! We've gotta change the rules! It's not fair!!"

Given that you've defined "the left" as some monolithic block of all people to the left of Sean Hannity, it's just possible that the problem is your perspective.

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

Pitchfork51 said:

I don't even know what conservatism is.

I just think the left is pathetic, incompetent, full of pussies, and for some reason super smug about it.

"I've never succeeded at anything in life! My team always loses! But we are in the right! We've gotta change the rules! It's not fair!!"

Given that you've defined "the left" as some monolithic block of all people to the left of Sean Hannity, it's just possible that the problem is your perspective.

Ironic

I wish.

HHusky said:

Back in the olden days, conservatives knew bashing government was political theatre; conservatives didn't actually behave as if government was the enemy. Ronald Reagan's policies were both pro-government and pro-big government. This was true for him as a Governor and President. The nuts who took over the conservative brand during the past 20 years actually do seem to believe government is the enemy. Of course government will not shrink anytime soon for reasons having to do with math and shit. The only question that really matters is whether we're going to borrow to pay for it or fund it in real time.

This is the lie O'Keefed tells himself in order for him to believe that he still is a conservatives. The "nuts" nominated a moderate in 2012 and you still voted for Obama and then lied to yourself some more by claiming Obama would be more fiscally responsible than Romney.

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

Back in the olden days, conservatives knew bashing government was political theatre; conservatives didn't actually behave as if government was the enemy. Ronald Reagan's policies were both pro-government and pro-big government. This was true for him as a Governor and President. The nuts who took over the conservative brand during the past 20 years actually do seem to believe government is the enemy. Of course government will not shrink anytime soon for reasons having to do with math and shit. The only question that really matters is whether we're going to borrow to pay for it or fund it in real time.

This is the lie O'Keefed tells himself in order for him to believe that he still is a conservatives. The "nuts" nominated a moderate in 2012 and you still voted for Obama and then lied to yourself some more by claiming Obama would be more fiscally responsible than Romney.

Romney 2012 was no moderate. He looked unhitched from his moorings pursuing the Presidency—and not merely before he got the nomination. McCain always winked and reminded us who he really was in 2008. Not so Mitt.

WestlinnDuck said:

Sure if you don't define moderate as William Buckley. Romney was not remotely a conservative. He was W reincarnated. Romneycare for Mass and drugs for greedy gezzers for W. Hell Maverick voted against it.

Romney ran against Romneycare in 2012.

I made my point, Gasbag. You obviously grasped it too. The adjustment of your medication appears to have worked.

WestlinnDuck said:

Still pity your clients. You made the point that Romney lied about opposing government healthcare. I made the point about Barry lying about gay marriage. I agree about both points. This is where you admit I wasn't being a gasbag and that Barry lied. Don't hurt yourself.

Mitt was a hot mess. I'm definitely not accusing him of lying, 'cuz I'm not clear where he stands on Romneycare now.

As for Barry's views on gay marriage, who cares? The President's views on marriage aren't relevant in any meaningful way to the rules governing who can marry.

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

WestlinnDuck said:

Still pity your clients. You made the point that Romney lied about opposing government healthcare. I made the point about Barry lying about gay marriage. I agree about both points. This is where you admit I wasn't being a gasbag and that Barry lied. Don't hurt yourself.

Mitt was a hot mess. I'm definitely not accusing him of lying, 'cuz I'm not clear where he stands on Romneycare now.

As for Barry's views on gay marriage, who cares? The President's views on marriage aren't relevant in any meaningful way to the rules governing who can marry.

Flagged for using the term “hot mess”. H is a 21 year old sorority girl?

Maybe

When was the last time you saw him and 21 year old sorority girl in the same room

HHusky said:

I made my point, Gasbag. You obviously grasped it too. The adjustment of your medication appears to have worked.

Oh you made a point, just not the one you think you made.

MikeDamone said:

Is this the fellow who closed down the mental hospitals that remained closed for the 35 years which caused the homeless situation? Or is this the guy who ruined the economy for 40 years because he killed unions, shipped jobs overseas and made it so rich people aren’t taxed? Or Singh is the guy who sold Newsom his house in Sacramento #teamhondo

Don't forget he was going to get rid of Medicare and Social Security.

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

MikeDamone said:

Is this the fellow who closed down the mental hospitals that remained closed for the 35 years which caused the homeless situation? Or is this the guy who ruined the economy for 40 years because he killed unions, shipped jobs overseas and made it so rich people aren’t taxed? Or Singh is the guy who sold Newsom his house in Sacramento #teamhondo

Don't forget he was going to get rid of Medicare and Social Security.

Well government is the problem, I’m told. Why didn’t he?

President isn't a King. Let me know if you need anymore civics lessons.

Obamacare isn’t single payer. I’m more of an Otto Von Bismarck kind of liberal.