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Marquis Spiker and Austin Osborne

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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    Doogles said:

    Osborne and Spiker couldn't beat out Chin and a guy that guy moved to DB.

    Not fair, they were redshirted. Most Freshman in this program don't get a legit chance to compete for playing time. JFC this isn't the Sark era. Guys have to learn the playbook, learn the skills the coaches are teaching them, and earn the trust of the coaches in practice. It takes time. That's like saying "True Freshman Vita Vea couldn't beat out Evan Hudson and redshirted, he must suck." Stop fucking doing this stupid shit. True freshman who are better players than veteran guys ahead of them redshirt every fucking year in this program for the betterment of the team long term.
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  • Baphomet
    Baphomet Member Posts: 1,511
    HillsboroDuck said:

    Baphomet said:

    Doogles said:

    Osborne and Spiker couldn't beat out Chin and a guy that guy moved to DB.

    I'm hearing we have a new WR coach this season that relates better to fast twitch athletes.
    Spiker and Osbourne aren't fast twitch
    Are they at least medium-fast?
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited March 2019
    Doogles said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    Doogles said:

    Osborne and Spiker couldn't beat out Chin and a guy that guy moved to DB.

    Not fair, they were redshirted. Most Freshman in this program don't get a legit chance to compete for playing time. JFC this isn't the Sark era. Guys have to learn the playbook, learn the skills the coaches are teaching them, and earn the trust of the coaches in practice. It takes time. That's like saying "True Freshman Vita Vea couldn't beat out Evan Hudson and redshirted, he must suck." Stop fucking doing this stupid shit. True freshman who are better players than veteran guys ahead of them redshirt every fucking year in this program for the betterment of the team long term.
    They had 4 free games to play and get experience while keeping their redshirt. It's a failure to not find a way for them to get snaps considering how talented they are.
    Like all the freshman who redshirt, Osborne and Spiker were running scout team in practice you moron. Scout team does not get you prepared to play games. You're out there running the opposing teams plays to prepare the defense for the game. Like I fucking said, once it's decided a guy is gonna redshirt, he's not able to compete for meaningful playing time or a starting job unless his redshirt is burned. Being able to play in four games doesn't mean shit. That just means guys who redshirt have a chance to play some garbage time minutes or special teams in four games. Unfortunately, the offense sucked and almost every game was way closer than it should have been so there was zero garbage time minutes available for guys like Osborne and Spiker to get some playing time at the end of the season.
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  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 13,014
    Doogles said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    Doogles said:

    Osborne and Spiker couldn't beat out Chin and a guy that guy moved to DB.

    Not fair, they were redshirted. Most Freshman in this program don't get a legit chance to compete for playing time. JFC this isn't the Sark era. Guys have to learn the playbook, learn the skills the coaches are teaching them, and earn the trust of the coaches in practice. It takes time. That's like saying "True Freshman Vita Vea couldn't beat out Evan Hudson and redshirted, he must suck." Stop fucking doing this stupid shit. True freshman who are better players than veteran guys ahead of them redshirt every fucking year in this program for the betterment of the team long term.
    They had 4 free games to play and get experience while keeping their redshirt. It's a failure to not find a way for them to get snaps considering how talented they are.
    I'm sure the plan was to use them in garbage time last year, but we struggled in pretty much every game and never really blew anyone out.

    From October through the end of the year, the only game with garbage time was Oregon State. I guess they thought it made more sense to leave the first team out there and try to fix what was wrong than put in true freshman to get a 4-5 snaps.
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  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,795 Founders Club
    StrongArmCobra said:

    Doogles said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    Doogles said:

    Osborne and Spiker couldn't beat out Chin and a guy that guy moved to DB.

    Not fair, they were redshirted. Most Freshman in this program don't get a legit chance to compete for playing time. JFC this isn't the Sark era. Guys have to learn the playbook, learn the skills the coaches are teaching them, and earn the trust of the coaches in practice. It takes time. That's like saying "True Freshman Vita Vea couldn't beat out Evan Hudson and redshirted, he must suck." Stop fucking doing this stupid shit. True freshman who are better players than veteran guys ahead of them redshirt every fucking year in this program for the betterment of the team long term.
    They had 4 free games to play and get experience while keeping their redshirt. It's a failure to not find a way for them to get snaps considering how talented they are.
    Like all the freshman who redshirt, Osborne and Spiker were running scout team in practice you moron. Scout team does not get you prepared to play games. You're out there running the opposing teams plays to prepare the defense for the game. Like I fucking said, once it's decided a guy is gonna redshirt, he's not able to compete for meaningful playing time or a starting job unless his redshirt is burned. Being able to play in four games doesn't mean shit. That just means guys who redshirt have a chance to play some garbage time minutes or special teams in four games. Unfortunately, the offense sucked and almost every game was way closer than it should have been so there was zero garbage time minutes available for guys like Osborne and Spiker to get some playing time at the end of the season.
    If I was being paid damn near a half million dollars I'd find a way to design a few plays including some basic concepts like a post route that my nephew can figure out when I draw it on my hand.
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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    RaceBannon said:

    I trust the coaches who have failed to put together a decent offense in 5 years here

    It takes a minute
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited March 2019
    HillsboroDuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    Doogles said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    Doogles said:

    Osborne and Spiker couldn't beat out Chin and a guy that guy moved to DB.

    Not fair, they were redshirted. Most Freshman in this program don't get a legit chance to compete for playing time. JFC this isn't the Sark era. Guys have to learn the playbook, learn the skills the coaches are teaching them, and earn the trust of the coaches in practice. It takes time. That's like saying "True Freshman Vita Vea couldn't beat out Evan Hudson and redshirted, he must suck." Stop fucking doing this stupid shit. True freshman who are better players than veteran guys ahead of them redshirt every fucking year in this program for the betterment of the team long term.
    They had 4 free games to play and get experience while keeping their redshirt. It's a failure to not find a way for them to get snaps considering how talented they are.
    Like all the freshman who redshirt, Osborne and Spiker were running scout team in practice you moron. Scout team does not get you prepared to play games. You're out there running the opposing teams plays to prepare the defense for the game. Like I fucking said, once it's decided a guy is gonna redshirt, he's not able to compete for meaningful playing time or a starting job unless his redshirt is burned. Being able to play in four games doesn't mean shit. That just means guys who redshirt have a chance to play some garbage time minutes or special teams in four games. Unfortunately, the offense sucked and almost every game was way closer than it should have been so there was zero garbage time minutes available for guys like Osborne and Spiker to get some playing time at the end of the season.
    And yet redshirts at other positions saw the field.

    You're terrible at this.
    In fucking garbage time and on special teams you fucking retard! The only true Freshman who even got a couple garbage time minutes against North Dakota were Tuli Letuligasnoa and Zion Tupuola-Fetui. And were talking like less than 10 snaps. What fucking true Freshman that redshirted got any real playing time? There were none you moron. You're terrible at this.
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