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A look at certain press practices in Obama vs. Trump presidencies

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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    God you're a mouthy Kunt who didn't refute a word I just said. If Sinclair News is such a right-wing behemoth how is that nearly 90% of the Washington Press Corp voted for Obama? Where are all those right-wing reporters who work of Sinclair?


    God you're a drive by Kunt.
    90% plus percent of DC didn't vote for Trump. What's your point? I totally didn't know the Washington press corps was representative of the media across the country now.
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    SFGbob said:

    God you're a mouthy Kunt who didn't refute a word I just said. If Sinclair News is such a right-wing behemoth how is that nearly 90% of the Washington Press Corp voted for Obama? Where are all those right-wing reporters who work of Sinclair?


    God you're a drive by Kunt.
    Bob: "The conservative media is one cable TV outlet and a few small circulation news papers and magazines."

    APAG: Sinclair

    Bob: gets pissed and fucks a strawman
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    This is an interesting way to take a quantitive look at media practices.

    Media FOIA Requests to EPA Spiked After Trump Election, Data Reveal



    Tag on from HotAir.com


    In before our? Proggies but but but TRUMP: This isn't about how Trump is untrustworthy. That's implied, he's a politician. And but but but Obama is a politician too. I'm not criticizing press practices on Trump, but how they failed under Obama. The differences in this EPA case are stark, and I have no reason to believe it's any different with other agencies.

    Flame away, statists.
    Way to bury the lede:

    Under the watch of Jackson's replacement Gina McCarthy, it was revealed that an agency employee was habitually watching porn on his government computer. The porn-watcher remained on the payroll for months.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181

    Bob: "The conservative media is one cable TV outlet and a few small circulation news papers and magazines."

    APAG: Sinclair

    Bob: gets pissed and fucks a strawman
    So you can't tell me why 90% of the reporters covering the WH are liberals.

    Got it.

    Sinclair owns local TV stations they aren't a National Broadcaster, and I was clearly comparing Fox News to ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC and PBS which are all national broadcasters so go fuck yourself.

  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Why?



    Because I’m living my truth
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
    Hey Benny, Sinclair own ABC, CBS and NBC local broadcasting stations. Does right-wing Sinclair change the content of what's aired by the National companies? Do they select the reporters who cover the White House? By the New outlets for ABC, CBS and NBC? Do they influence the coverage NBC gives Trump?

    How exactly does Conservative Sinclair influence NBC political coverage Kunt?
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    So you can't tell me why 90% of the reporters covering the WH are liberals.

    Got it.

    Sinclair owns local TV stations they aren't a National Broadcaster, and I was clearly comparing Fox News to ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC and PBS which are all national broadcasters so go fuck yourself.

    Komo4 buttfucker
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    SFGbob said:

    Hey Benny, Sinclair own ABC, CBS and NBC local broadcasting stations. Does right-wing Sinclair change the content of what's aired by the National companies? Do they select the reporters who cover the White House? By the New outlets for ABC, CBS and NBC? Do they influence the coverage NBC gives Trump?

    How exactly does Conservative Sinclair influence NBC political coverage Kunt?

    I'll ignore your classlessness and answer anyway. You've moooooved the goalpoasts.

    First it was: "The conservative media is one cable TV outlet and a few small circulation news papers and magazines." You either forgot about, willingly ignored, or were ignorant of Sinclair's reach and influence.

    Next goal: is they have to cover the WH, etc.

    Sinclair pushes a conservative agenda to all their stations. The facts are out there, if you care to look.

    You can admit to being wrong, it won't kill you.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181

    I'll ignore your classlessness and answer anyway. You've moooooved the goalpoasts.

    First it was: "The conservative media is one cable TV outlet and a few small circulation news papers and magazines." You either forgot about, willingly ignored, or were ignorant of Sinclair's reach and influence.

    Next goal: is they have to cover the WH, etc.

    Sinclair pushes a conservative agenda to all their stations. The facts are out there, if you care to look.

    You can admit to being wrong, it won't kill you.
    No because all of the news outlets mentioned in the post that starts the thread are all National news outlets, Comparing what the local Indianapolis ABC affiliate does to what ABC news does is pretty fucking stupid. Few if any of those local stations have correspondents that cover Washington or the White House. Sinclair can push their conservative agenda all they like but it's not going to change how Chuck Todd blew Obama for 8 years and how he now trashes Trump.

  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    SFGbob said:

    No because all of the news outlets mentioned in the post that starts the thread are all National news outlets, Comparing what the local Indianapolis ABC affiliate does to what ABC news does is pretty fucking stupid. Few if any of those local stations have correspondents that cover Washington or the White House. Sinclair can push their conservative agenda all they like but it's not going to change how Chuck Todd blew Obama for 8 years and how he now trashes Trump.

    Are you really this fucking stupid? Answer the question Bob.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    No because all of the news outlets mentioned in the post that starts the thread are all National news outlets, Comparing what the local Indianapolis ABC affiliate does to what ABC news does is pretty fucking stupid. Few if any of those local stations have correspondents that cover Washington or the White House. Sinclair can push their conservative agenda all they like but it's not going to change how Chuck Todd blew Obama for 8 years and how he now trashes Trump.

    So no link on 90% of journalists covering the White House being liberal. Lil lyin Bob
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,470 Standard Supporter
    The press is close to 90% liberal. Bad press on Trump is about that same percentage. Coincidence?
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    You’re chasing the shiny light of “bias!!!” as it relates to this particular story and what I said. My concern here isn’t in biased reporting; my concern isn’t that they weren’t even looking. I’m talking about investigative effort put forth. FOIA requests are a cornerstone of governmental reporting, and the drudgery of it as well. But that’s real journalism’s job. If Hot Air was making a big deal about a 50% difference I wouldn’t pay it much mind. Four times is significant.

    I would be happy to see an explanation based in fact that showed a legit reason for the difference in investigative work being done. Quite honestly, it’d be a relief.
    Based in fact? We both know that doesn't exist. I will say that the second term of Obama he wasn't running anymore. The foia requests went towards Hillary and Bernie. I don't have a source for that but the Hillary email started as an foia request.

    Again, most of those sources are perceived as liberal. I want to see all requests for the last 10 years. Other than that, I can't really make a judgement based on this information. It's too small of a sample and comparing an irrelevant apple to a consequential orange.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 109,964 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Based in fact? We both know that doesn't exist. I will say that the second term of Obama he wasn't running anymore. The foia requests went towards Hillary and Bernie. I don't have a source for that but the Hillary email started as an foia request.

    Again, most of those sources are perceived as liberal. I want to see all requests for the last 10 years. Other than that, I can't really make a judgement based on this information. It's too small of a sample and comparing an irrelevant apple to a consequential orange.
    Hillary emails came out of the Benghazi hearings

    That's why you don't have a source for your bullshit
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited March 2019

    You’re chasing the shiny light of “bias!!!” as it relates to this particular story and what I said. My concern here isn’t in biased reporting; my concern isn’t that they weren’t even looking. I’m talking about investigative effort put forth. FOIA requests are a cornerstone of governmental reporting, and the drudgery of it as well. But that’s real journalism’s job. If Hot Air was making a big deal about a 50% difference I wouldn’t pay it much mind. Four times is significant.

    I would be happy to see an explanation based in fact that showed a legit reason for the difference in investigative work being done. Quite honestly, it’d be a relief.
    Here is a good read. Not sure who the media is but they discuss number of requests for last 4 years of Bush versus first four years of Obama. Although that isn't the best either for the same reason, I suspect the number of requests was greater during Bush's first four years.

    https://niemanreports.org/articles/fifty-years-of-foia/
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 109,964 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Here is a good read. Not sure who the media is but they discuss number of requests for last 4 years of Bush versus first four years of Obama. Although that isn't the best either for the same reason, I suspect the number of requests was greater during Bush's first four years.

    Again, most of those sources are perceived as liberal. I want to see all requests for the last 10 years. Other than that, I can't really make a judgement based on this information. It's too small of a sample and comparing an irrelevant apple to a consequential
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Here is a good read. Not sure who the media is but they discuss number of requests for last 4 years of Bush versus first four years of Obama. Although that isn't the best either for the same reason, I suspect the number of requests was greater during Bush's first four years.

    https://niemanreports.org/articles/fifty-years-of-foia/
    Interesting article, thank you. But I’m not seeing anything as granular as Free Beacon’s research.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Based in fact? We both know that doesn't exist. I will say that the second term of Obama he wasn't running anymore. The foia requests went towards Hillary and Bernie. I don't have a source for that but the Hillary email started as an foia request.

    Again, most of those sources are perceived as liberal. I want to see all requests for the last 10 years. Other than that, I can't really make a judgement based on this information. It's too small of a sample and comparing an irrelevant apple to a consequential orange.
    I would agree with that opinion. They also represent the leading print media in the country. Missing only the Chicago Tribune, Boston Globe, and maybe the Baltimore Sun. Reuter’s and AP covers the gaps. Telling, yes?
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