Trump said he wouldn’t cut Medicaid, Social Security and Medicaid

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

Sledog said:

Swaye said:

MikeDamone said:

Spending needs to be cut. Including military. Cuts to nearly every agency, if not eliminating some altogether are needed.

I'd start with 15% off the military budget for openers, and then trim significant chunks (25%+) off all entitlement programs and completely do away with useless shit like the National Endowment for the Arts. Oh yeah, and huge cuts to the Department of Education (lolwut?) and the EPA (FTG). There are probably tons of meaningless agencies that could be shuttered completely.

Cut 100% to the UN and 75% of foreign aid. Cut 100% of foreign aid to where they chant "death to America".

The real money is in the entitlement programs but there is no political will to go after them

Absolutely correct. And mall cop would squeal like a stuck pig if you cut any of his entitlements.

Raising taxes is inevitable. We could start now and reduce the pain.

We? You mean “we” should raise taxes on other people. Not you.

What makes you say stupid shit? I'm a one percenter. My taxes would be going up under any proposal I could make.

Did you refuse your big tax cut mr. 1%er.

I didn’t know working for legal Zoom paid so well.

Why do I need to subsidize others? We can all pitch in.

Because you believe in the greater good and care about helping people. The truth is you’re all talk and will only pay by force.

Or I'll only pay if others like me do too. I hate people, but they're a necessary evil.

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

Sledog said:

Swaye said:

MikeDamone said:

Spending needs to be cut. Including military. Cuts to nearly every agency, if not eliminating some altogether are needed.

I'd start with 15% off the military budget for openers, and then trim significant chunks (25%+) off all entitlement programs and completely do away with useless shit like the National Endowment for the Arts. Oh yeah, and huge cuts to the Department of Education (lolwut?) and the EPA (FTG). There are probably tons of meaningless agencies that could be shuttered completely.

Cut 100% to the UN and 75% of foreign aid. Cut 100% of foreign aid to where they chant "death to America".

The real money is in the entitlement programs but there is no political will to go after them

Absolutely correct. And mall cop would squeal like a stuck pig if you cut any of his entitlements.

Raising taxes is inevitable. We could start now and reduce the pain.

We? You mean “we” should raise taxes on other people. Not you.

What makes you say stupid shit? I'm a one percenter. My taxes would be going up under any proposal I could make.

Nothing stopping you from writing a bigger check to the Government right now O'Keefed. You don't need a change in the tax law for you to do what you want to have done. Put your money were your mouth is and write the fucking check.

Yes, yes. Mikey already beat you to it. The old, "Why don't you just volunteer to pay more?" dodge.

The old, I'm a fucking hypocrite who wants to force other people to do what I'm unwilling to do right now dodge.

Many hands make light work. I'll pay more, but I want rich dudes like you to pay more too, blob.

You support higher taxes, I don't. Why should I pay more for something you support? I thought you libs were all Pro-choice? Now you want to force people to do something you're unwilling to do on your own.

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

Sledog said:

Swaye said:

MikeDamone said:

Spending needs to be cut. Including military. Cuts to nearly every agency, if not eliminating some altogether are needed.

I'd start with 15% off the military budget for openers, and then trim significant chunks (25%+) off all entitlement programs and completely do away with useless shit like the National Endowment for the Arts. Oh yeah, and huge cuts to the Department of Education (lolwut?) and the EPA (FTG). There are probably tons of meaningless agencies that could be shuttered completely.

Cut 100% to the UN and 75% of foreign aid. Cut 100% of foreign aid to where they chant "death to America".

The real money is in the entitlement programs but there is no political will to go after them

Absolutely correct. And mall cop would squeal like a stuck pig if you cut any of his entitlements.

Raising taxes is inevitable. We could start now and reduce the pain.

We? You mean “we” should raise taxes on other people. Not you.

What makes you say stupid shit? I'm a one percenter. My taxes would be going up under any proposal I could make.

Nothing stopping you from writing a bigger check to the Government right now O'Keefed. You don't need a change in the tax law for you to do what you want to have done. Put your money were your mouth is and write the fucking check.

Yes, yes. Mikey already beat you to it. The old, "Why don't you just volunteer to pay more?" dodge.

The old, I'm a fucking hypocrite who wants to force other people to do what I'm unwilling to do right now dodge.

Many hands make light work. I'll pay more, but I want rich dudes like you to pay more too, blob.

So you’re a hypocrite. Good to know.

I've never advocated a voluntary tax system. Add hypocrite to the list of terms you don't understand.

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

Sledog said:

Swaye said:

MikeDamone said:

Spending needs to be cut. Including military. Cuts to nearly every agency, if not eliminating some altogether are needed.

I'd start with 15% off the military budget for openers, and then trim significant chunks (25%+) off all entitlement programs and completely do away with useless shit like the National Endowment for the Arts. Oh yeah, and huge cuts to the Department of Education (lolwut?) and the EPA (FTG). There are probably tons of meaningless agencies that could be shuttered completely.

Cut 100% to the UN and 75% of foreign aid. Cut 100% of foreign aid to where they chant "death to America".

The real money is in the entitlement programs but there is no political will to go after them

Absolutely correct. And mall cop would squeal like a stuck pig if you cut any of his entitlements.

Raising taxes is inevitable. We could start now and reduce the pain.

We? You mean “we” should raise taxes on other people. Not you.

What makes you say stupid shit? I'm a one percenter. My taxes would be going up under any proposal I could make.

Nothing stopping you from writing a bigger check to the Government right now O'Keefed. You don't need a change in the tax law for you to do what you want to have done. Put your money were your mouth is and write the fucking check.

Yes, yes. Mikey already beat you to it. The old, "Why don't you just volunteer to pay more?" dodge.

The old, I'm a fucking hypocrite who wants to force other people to do what I'm unwilling to do right now dodge.

Many hands make light work. I'll pay more, but I want rich dudes like you to pay more too, blob.

So you’re a hypocrite. Good to know.

I've never advocated a voluntary tax system. Add hypocrite to the list of terms you don't understand.

Of course not. You would never pay if not forced. Yet you talk about the wonderful things that need to be funded. Hypocrite.

blob has correctly noted that we won’t see any cut to entitlement spending. Wonderful? Doesn’t matter.

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

Sledog said:

Swaye said:

MikeDamone said:

Spending needs to be cut. Including military. Cuts to nearly every agency, if not eliminating some altogether are needed.

I'd start with 15% off the military budget for openers, and then trim significant chunks (25%+) off all entitlement programs and completely do away with useless shit like the National Endowment for the Arts. Oh yeah, and huge cuts to the Department of Education (lolwut?) and the EPA (FTG). There are probably tons of meaningless agencies that could be shuttered completely.

Cut 100% to the UN and 75% of foreign aid. Cut 100% of foreign aid to where they chant "death to America".

The real money is in the entitlement programs but there is no political will to go after them

Absolutely correct. And mall cop would squeal like a stuck pig if you cut any of his entitlements.

Raising taxes is inevitable. We could start now and reduce the pain.

We? You mean “we” should raise taxes on other people. Not you.

What makes you say stupid shit? I'm a one percenter. My taxes would be going up under any proposal I could make.

Nothing stopping you from writing a bigger check to the Government right now O'Keefed. You don't need a change in the tax law for you to do what you want to have done. Put your money were your mouth is and write the fucking check.

Yes, yes. Mikey already beat you to it. The old, "Why don't you just volunteer to pay more?" dodge.

The old, I'm a fucking hypocrite who wants to force other people to do what I'm unwilling to do right now dodge.

Many hands make light work. I'll pay more, but I want rich dudes like you to pay more too, blob.

So you’re a hypocrite. Good to know.

I've never advocated a voluntary tax system. Add hypocrite to the list of terms you don't understand.

Of course not. You would never pay if not forced. Yet you talk about the wonderful things that need to be funded. Hypocrite.

blob has correctly noted that we won’t see any cut to entitlement spending. Wonderful? Doesn’t matter.

We'll see cuts when the programs implode.

Some cuts, sure. Anyway, cutting expense and raising revenues aren’t alternative courses of action.

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

Sledog said:

Swaye said:

MikeDamone said:

Spending needs to be cut. Including military. Cuts to nearly every agency, if not eliminating some altogether are needed.

I'd start with 15% off the military budget for openers, and then trim significant chunks (25%+) off all entitlement programs and completely do away with useless shit like the National Endowment for the Arts. Oh yeah, and huge cuts to the Department of Education (lolwut?) and the EPA (FTG). There are probably tons of meaningless agencies that could be shuttered completely.

Cut 100% to the UN and 75% of foreign aid. Cut 100% of foreign aid to where they chant "death to America".

The real money is in the entitlement programs but there is no political will to go after them

Absolutely correct. And mall cop would squeal like a stuck pig if you cut any of his entitlements.

Raising taxes is inevitable. We could start now and reduce the pain.

We? You mean “we” should raise taxes on other people. Not you.

What makes you say stupid shit? I'm a one percenter. My taxes would be going up under any proposal I could make.

Nothing stopping you from writing a bigger check to the Government right now O'Keefed. You don't need a change in the tax law for you to do what you want to have done. Put your money were your mouth is and write the fucking check.

Yes, yes. Mikey already beat you to it. The old, "Why don't you just volunteer to pay more?" dodge.

The old, I'm a fucking hypocrite who wants to force other people to do what I'm unwilling to do right now dodge.

Many hands make light work. I'll pay more, but I want rich dudes like you to pay more too, blob.

So you’re a hypocrite. Good to know.

I've never advocated a voluntary tax system. Add hypocrite to the list of terms you don't understand.

Of course not. You would never pay if not forced. Yet you talk about the wonderful things that need to be funded. Hypocrite.

blob has correctly noted that we won’t see any cut to entitlement spending. Wonderful? Doesn’t matter.

We'll see cuts when the programs implode.

Some cuts, sure. Anyway, cutting expense and raising revenues aren’t alternative courses of action.

But you shit all over the people who do advocate for cutting spending while you vote for and support the people who want to increase spending. You course of action only moves in one direction.

HHusky said:

Can't cut spending on entitlements significantly. That's what would be required to reduce spending. Old people are multiplying, and they vote. Young people are not having kids. And Daddy gets elected on anti-immigrant platform to boot.

Spending is going to go up. Shall we pay cash or put it on a credit card?

Anti-immigrant? We currently allow over a million legal immigrants into this country each year. Nearly 45 million people currently living in the US weren't born here. Current US population is 327 Million up from 304 million in 2008.

How many is enough O'Keefed?

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

Can't cut spending on entitlements significantly. That's what would be required to reduce spending. Old people are multiplying, and they vote. Young people are not having kids. And Daddy gets elected on anti-immigrant platform to boot.

Spending is going to go up. Shall we pay cash or put it on a credit card?

Anti-immigrant? We currently allow over a million legal immigrants into this country each year. Nearly 45 million people currently living in the US weren't born here. Current US population is 327 Million up from 304 million in 2008.

How many is enough O'Keefed?

You can pretend the Right Wing base isn't anti-legal immigrant, as well as being anti-illegal immigrant. But they are.

Swaye said:

MikeDamone said:

Spending needs to be cut. Including military. Cuts to nearly every agency, if not eliminating some altogether are needed.

I'd start with 15% off the military budget for openers, and then trim significant chunks (25%+) off all entitlement programs and completely do away with useless shit like the National Endowment for the Arts. Oh yeah, and huge cuts to the Department of Education (lolwut?) and the EPA (FTG). There are probably tons of meaningless agencies that could be shuttered completely.

Pretty close to actual. 15% for military is a no-brainer if/when all the other fuck NATO and UN motherfuckers start paying their own freight.

Just shave 10% across the board. Period. EPA, DEA, FDA, every cabinet department, on and on. SSA could trim that much with all the old fucks that should take forced retirement.

If you can't trim 10% in a bloated organization by just concentrating on getting rid of deadweight and inefficiencies, you shouldn't be in a managerial position. I hold that to be true in pretty much every organization I've ever gone in to clean up. Usually when all is said and done The Throbber/Hatchet realizes bigger cuts than that.

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

Can't cut spending on entitlements significantly. That's what would be required to reduce spending. Old people are multiplying, and they vote. Young people are not having kids. And Daddy gets elected on anti-immigrant platform to boot.

Spending is going to go up. Shall we pay cash or put it on a credit card?

Anti-immigrant? We currently allow over a million legal immigrants into this country each year. Nearly 45 million people currently living in the US weren't born here. Current US population is 327 Million up from 304 million in 2008.

How many is enough O'Keefed?

You can pretend the Right Wing base isn't anti-legal immigrant, as well as being anti-illegal immigrant. But they are.

We can pretend you're not a lying racist fuck but you are. Your claim was that our ability to pay for these entitlements is being hurt by among other things, the lack of new immigrants. We don't lack new immigrants O'Keefed.

Scandinavian immigrants don't want to change your diapers, blob. #ThinkShitHole