Trump said he wouldn’t cut Medicaid, Social Security and Medicaid

allpurpleallgold said:

His 2020 budget cuts all three.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/12/18260271/trump-medicaid-social-security-medicare-budget-cuts

Only in Washington is a budget that increases every year a "cut"

Btw, you've got to love how the same people who were just slamming Trump for the deficit are now crying about budget "cuts" that are really nothing more than a reduction in the growth of spending.

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

allpurpleallgold said:

His 2020 budget cuts all three.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/12/18260271/trump-medicaid-social-security-medicare-budget-cuts

Only in Washington is a budget that increases every year a "cut"

Btw, you've got to love how the same people who were just slamming Trump for the deficit are now crying about budget "cuts" that are really nothing more than a reduction in the growth of spending.

Bob, your employer was giving you 5% raises a year. They tell you that you only get 1% raises a year now. Would you accept that or think your compensation has been cut?

Did I do anything to earn this 5% raise each year or do I get it simply for being able to fog a mirror? Also, am I an employee who has been bitching about the payroll costs at my job, only to then bitch when my employer does something about those costs?


If my annual raise was reduced to 1% per year I would say that my raise had been cut I wouldn't say that my salary had been cut. In 2008 this is exactly what happened at my job. There was no raise that year or the next. I never cried about how my pay had been cut, I just didn't get an increase for those two years.

SFGbob said:

Sledog said:

Swaye said:

MikeDamone said:

Spending needs to be cut. Including military. Cuts to nearly every agency, if not eliminating some altogether are needed.

I'd start with 15% off the military budget for openers, and then trim significant chunks (25%+) off all entitlement programs and completely do away with useless shit like the National Endowment for the Arts. Oh yeah, and huge cuts to the Department of Education (lolwut?) and the EPA (FTG). There are probably tons of meaningless agencies that could be shuttered completely.

Cut 100% to the UN and 75% of foreign aid. Cut 100% of foreign aid to where they chant "death to America".

Foreign Aid isn't that big a budget item. The real money is in the entitlement programs but there is no political will to go after them and as you can see, simply reducing the rate of their growth, will be called a "cut" by hacks like Hondo and Purple.

Cuts add up. And we could certainly do some cutting.

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

Sledog said:

Swaye said:

MikeDamone said:

Spending needs to be cut. Including military. Cuts to nearly every agency, if not eliminating some altogether are needed.

I'd start with 15% off the military budget for openers, and then trim significant chunks (25%+) off all entitlement programs and completely do away with useless shit like the National Endowment for the Arts. Oh yeah, and huge cuts to the Department of Education (lolwut?) and the EPA (FTG). There are probably tons of meaningless agencies that could be shuttered completely.

Cut 100% to the UN and 75% of foreign aid. Cut 100% of foreign aid to where they chant "death to America".

The real money is in the entitlement programs but there is no political will to go after them

Absolutely correct. And mall cop would squeal like a stuck pig if you cut any of his entitlements.

Raising taxes is inevitable. We could start now and reduce the pain.

Or you could just reduce spending to 2008 levels and then there would be no need to raise taxes. What are his entitlements? A pension? Not quite the same thing.

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

Sledog said:

Swaye said:

MikeDamone said:

Spending needs to be cut. Including military. Cuts to nearly every agency, if not eliminating some altogether are needed.

I'd start with 15% off the military budget for openers, and then trim significant chunks (25%+) off all entitlement programs and completely do away with useless shit like the National Endowment for the Arts. Oh yeah, and huge cuts to the Department of Education (lolwut?) and the EPA (FTG). There are probably tons of meaningless agencies that could be shuttered completely.

Cut 100% to the UN and 75% of foreign aid. Cut 100% of foreign aid to where they chant "death to America".

The real money is in the entitlement programs but there is no political will to go after them

Absolutely correct. And mall cop would squeal like a stuck pig if you cut any of his entitlements.

Raising taxes is inevitable. We could start now and reduce the pain.

Or you could just reduce spending to 2008 levels and then there would be no need to raise taxes. What are his entitlements? A pension? Not quite the same thing.

Mall cop isn't going to take his SS and Medicare? You can't have the proportion of population over 65 we have, low birth rates, anti-immigrant policy and customary entitlements without raising taxes.

HHusky said:

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

Sledog said:

Swaye said:

MikeDamone said:

Spending needs to be cut. Including military. Cuts to nearly every agency, if not eliminating some altogether are needed.

I'd start with 15% off the military budget for openers, and then trim significant chunks (25%+) off all entitlement programs and completely do away with useless shit like the National Endowment for the Arts. Oh yeah, and huge cuts to the Department of Education (lolwut?) and the EPA (FTG). There are probably tons of meaningless agencies that could be shuttered completely.

Cut 100% to the UN and 75% of foreign aid. Cut 100% of foreign aid to where they chant "death to America".

The real money is in the entitlement programs but there is no political will to go after them

Absolutely correct. And mall cop would squeal like a stuck pig if you cut any of his entitlements.

Raising taxes is inevitable. We could start now and reduce the pain.

We? You mean “we” should raise taxes on other people. Not you.

What makes you say stupid shit? I'm a one percenter. My taxes would be going up under any proposal I could make.

Nothing stopping you from writing a bigger check to the Government right now O'Keefed. You don't need a change in the tax law for you to do what you want to have done. Put your money were your mouth is and write the fucking check.

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

Sledog said:

Swaye said:

MikeDamone said:

Spending needs to be cut. Including military. Cuts to nearly every agency, if not eliminating some altogether are needed.

I'd start with 15% off the military budget for openers, and then trim significant chunks (25%+) off all entitlement programs and completely do away with useless shit like the National Endowment for the Arts. Oh yeah, and huge cuts to the Department of Education (lolwut?) and the EPA (FTG). There are probably tons of meaningless agencies that could be shuttered completely.

Cut 100% to the UN and 75% of foreign aid. Cut 100% of foreign aid to where they chant "death to America".

The real money is in the entitlement programs but there is no political will to go after them

Absolutely correct. And mall cop would squeal like a stuck pig if you cut any of his entitlements.

Raising taxes is inevitable. We could start now and reduce the pain.

We? You mean “we” should raise taxes on other people. Not you.

What makes you say stupid shit? I'm a one percenter. My taxes would be going up under any proposal I could make.

Nothing stopping you from writing a bigger check to the Government right now O'Keefed. You don't need a change in the tax law for you to do what you want to have done. Put your money were your mouth is and write the fucking check.

Yes, yes. Mikey already beat you to it. The old, "Why don't you just volunteer to pay more?" dodge.