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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Some of you forget the millions more votes Hillary had than Bernie. Although those DNC emails Trump conspired with Russia to obtain sure do look criminal.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,750 Founders Club
    2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Monday night that under his progressive “Medicare-for-all” proposal, Americans would not be able to keep existing health insurance coverage from private plans even if they wanted to do so.

    The Vermont senator told a CNN town hall that health care should be a “human right” and that the U.S. “shamefully” was the only major country on Earth “not to guarantee health care to all people.” He argued that the only “cost-effective” way to give all Americans health insurance would be with a “Medicare-for-all single-payer program.”

    CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer then pointed to statistics showing half of Americans get their health insurance through their employers and that a recent Gallup poll showed that 70 percent of those who get their insurance from their employers like it.

    “Will these people be able to keep their health insurance plans, their private plans through their employers, if there’s a 'Medicare-for-all' program that you endorse?” Blitzer asked.

    “No,” Sanders responded mid-question as he shook his head. “What will change in their plans is the color of their card. So, instead of having a Blue Cross/Blue Shield card, instead of having a United Health Insurance card, they're gonna have a Medicare card.”

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Some of you forget the millions more votes Hillary had than Bernie. Although those DNC emails Trump conspired with Russia to obtain sure do look criminal.

    She won. Get over it

    Then she lost

    Get over it
    You brought it up. And hate facts.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Monday night that under his progressive “Medicare-for-all” proposal, Americans would not be able to keep existing health insurance coverage from private plans even if they wanted to do so.

    The Vermont senator told a CNN town hall that health care should be a “human right” and that the U.S. “shamefully” was the only major country on Earth “not to guarantee health care to all people.” He argued that the only “cost-effective” way to give all Americans health insurance would be with a “Medicare-for-all single-payer program.”

    CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer then pointed to statistics showing half of Americans get their health insurance through their employers and that a recent Gallup poll showed that 70 percent of those who get their insurance from their employers like it.

    “Will these people be able to keep their health insurance plans, their private plans through their employers, if there’s a 'Medicare-for-all' program that you endorse?” Blitzer asked.

    “No,” Sanders responded mid-question as he shook his head. “What will change in their plans is the color of their card. So, instead of having a Blue Cross/Blue Shield card, instead of having a United Health Insurance card, they're gonna have a Medicare card.”

    And?

    I'm not sure what you are scared of. Why you are pressing. There is no way that'll happen in your lifetime. The insurance lobby is too big and got stronger under Obamacare. They have both sides bought off. Just like the cannabis issue. It'll never happen because big pharma has both sides bought off.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,750 Founders Club
    edited February 2019


    @HoustonHusky brought it up

    You seem to be struggling here
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Some of you forget the millions more votes Hillary had than Bernie. Although those DNC emails Trump conspired with Russia to obtain sure do look criminal.

    She won. Get over it

    Then she lost

    Get over it
    You brought it up. And hate facts.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,750 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Monday night that under his progressive “Medicare-for-all” proposal, Americans would not be able to keep existing health insurance coverage from private plans even if they wanted to do so.

    The Vermont senator told a CNN town hall that health care should be a “human right” and that the U.S. “shamefully” was the only major country on Earth “not to guarantee health care to all people.” He argued that the only “cost-effective” way to give all Americans health insurance would be with a “Medicare-for-all single-payer program.”

    CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer then pointed to statistics showing half of Americans get their health insurance through their employers and that a recent Gallup poll showed that 70 percent of those who get their insurance from their employers like it.

    “Will these people be able to keep their health insurance plans, their private plans through their employers, if there’s a 'Medicare-for-all' program that you endorse?” Blitzer asked.

    “No,” Sanders responded mid-question as he shook his head. “What will change in their plans is the color of their card. So, instead of having a Blue Cross/Blue Shield card, instead of having a United Health Insurance card, they're gonna have a Medicare card.”

    And?

    I'm not sure what you are scared of. Why you are pressing. There is no way that'll happen in your lifetime. The insurance lobby is too big and got stronger under Obamacare. They have both sides bought off. Just like the cannabis issue. It'll never happen because big pharma has both sides bought off.
    Are you sure that I'm scared? Maybe I am angry but not scared. Ever think of that?

    I'm against the elimination of private insurance. How about you?

    How come your defense of every bad idea by democrats is to attack "conservatives" and say it will never happen? Why is he running for President on that idea then? Why is he the front runner? Should I vote for him then because it will never happen?

    Do you have any more talking points about Big Pharma?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer then pointed to statistics showing half of Americans get their health insurance through their employers and that a recent Gallup poll showed that 70 percent of those who get their insurance from their employers like it.


    Gosh, I thought a majority of people wanted Medicare for all. Btw, now that the Rats are actually in power in House, the support for Medicare for all is cooling.

  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441
    Wolf can always be counted on to protect the status quo
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457



    @HoustonHusky brought it up

    You seem to be struggling here

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Some of you forget the millions more votes Hillary had than Bernie. Although those DNC emails Trump conspired with Russia to obtain sure do look criminal.

    She won. Get over it

    Then she lost

    Get over it
    You brought it up. And hate facts.
    Listen here shitdick. You people all sound the same.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Monday night that under his progressive “Medicare-for-all” proposal, Americans would not be able to keep existing health insurance coverage from private plans even if they wanted to do so.

    The Vermont senator told a CNN town hall that health care should be a “human right” and that the U.S. “shamefully” was the only major country on Earth “not to guarantee health care to all people.” He argued that the only “cost-effective” way to give all Americans health insurance would be with a “Medicare-for-all single-payer program.”

    CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer then pointed to statistics showing half of Americans get their health insurance through their employers and that a recent Gallup poll showed that 70 percent of those who get their insurance from their employers like it.

    “Will these people be able to keep their health insurance plans, their private plans through their employers, if there’s a 'Medicare-for-all' program that you endorse?” Blitzer asked.

    “No,” Sanders responded mid-question as he shook his head. “What will change in their plans is the color of their card. So, instead of having a Blue Cross/Blue Shield card, instead of having a United Health Insurance card, they're gonna have a Medicare card.”

    And?

    I'm not sure what you are scared of. Why you are pressing. There is no way that'll happen in your lifetime. The insurance lobby is too big and got stronger under Obamacare. They have both sides bought off. Just like the cannabis issue. It'll never happen because big pharma has both sides bought off.
    Are you sure that I'm scared? Maybe I am angry but not scared. Ever think of that?

    I'm against the elimination of private insurance. How about you?

    How come your defense of every bad idea by democrats is to attack "conservatives" and say it will never happen? Why is he running for President on that idea then? Why is he the front runner? Should I vote for him then because it will never happen?

    Do you have any more talking points about Big Pharma?
    I can't answer every question. I'm not a Bernie guy. If I were designing it, I'd keep the current system with a public option. Phase it in over years to eventually get rid of the insurance tied to employers. But you still have the option to purchase your own insurance. There's a lot more to it, and it involves increasing the Medicare tax.

    So I answered Race. Now you answer what you want to do to fix the medical system.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,434 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:



    @HoustonHusky brought it up

    You seem to be struggling here

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Some of you forget the millions more votes Hillary had than Bernie. Although those DNC emails Trump conspired with Russia to obtain sure do look criminal.

    She won. Get over it

    Then she lost

    Get over it
    You brought it up. And hate facts.
    Listen here shitdick. You people all sound the same.
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Monday night that under his progressive “Medicare-for-all” proposal, Americans would not be able to keep existing health insurance coverage from private plans even if they wanted to do so.

    The Vermont senator told a CNN town hall that health care should be a “human right” and that the U.S. “shamefully” was the only major country on Earth “not to guarantee health care to all people.” He argued that the only “cost-effective” way to give all Americans health insurance would be with a “Medicare-for-all single-payer program.”

    CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer then pointed to statistics showing half of Americans get their health insurance through their employers and that a recent Gallup poll showed that 70 percent of those who get their insurance from their employers like it.

    “Will these people be able to keep their health insurance plans, their private plans through their employers, if there’s a 'Medicare-for-all' program that you endorse?” Blitzer asked.

    “No,” Sanders responded mid-question as he shook his head. “What will change in their plans is the color of their card. So, instead of having a Blue Cross/Blue Shield card, instead of having a United Health Insurance card, they're gonna have a Medicare card.”

    And?

    I'm not sure what you are scared of. Why you are pressing. There is no way that'll happen in your lifetime. The insurance lobby is too big and got stronger under Obamacare. They have both sides bought off. Just like the cannabis issue. It'll never happen because big pharma has both sides bought off.
    Are you sure that I'm scared? Maybe I am angry but not scared. Ever think of that?

    I'm against the elimination of private insurance. How about you?

    How come your defense of every bad idea by democrats is to attack "conservatives" and say it will never happen? Why is he running for President on that idea then? Why is he the front runner? Should I vote for him then because it will never happen?

    Do you have any more talking points about Big Pharma?
    I can't answer every question. I'm not a Bernie guy. If I were designing it, I'd keep the current system with a public option. Phase it in over years to eventually get rid of the insurance tied to employers. But you still have the option to purchase your own insurance. There's a lot more to it, and it involves increasing the Medicare tax.

    So I answered Race. Now you answer what you want to do to fix the medical system.
    HondoFS really struggling with every post.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,750 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Monday night that under his progressive “Medicare-for-all” proposal, Americans would not be able to keep existing health insurance coverage from private plans even if they wanted to do so.

    The Vermont senator told a CNN town hall that health care should be a “human right” and that the U.S. “shamefully” was the only major country on Earth “not to guarantee health care to all people.” He argued that the only “cost-effective” way to give all Americans health insurance would be with a “Medicare-for-all single-payer program.”

    CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer then pointed to statistics showing half of Americans get their health insurance through their employers and that a recent Gallup poll showed that 70 percent of those who get their insurance from their employers like it.

    “Will these people be able to keep their health insurance plans, their private plans through their employers, if there’s a 'Medicare-for-all' program that you endorse?” Blitzer asked.

    “No,” Sanders responded mid-question as he shook his head. “What will change in their plans is the color of their card. So, instead of having a Blue Cross/Blue Shield card, instead of having a United Health Insurance card, they're gonna have a Medicare card.”

    And?

    I'm not sure what you are scared of. Why you are pressing. There is no way that'll happen in your lifetime. The insurance lobby is too big and got stronger under Obamacare. They have both sides bought off. Just like the cannabis issue. It'll never happen because big pharma has both sides bought off.
    Are you sure that I'm scared? Maybe I am angry but not scared. Ever think of that?

    I'm against the elimination of private insurance. How about you?

    How come your defense of every bad idea by democrats is to attack "conservatives" and say it will never happen? Why is he running for President on that idea then? Why is he the front runner? Should I vote for him then because it will never happen?

    Do you have any more talking points about Big Pharma?
    I can't answer every question. I'm not a Bernie guy. If I were designing it, I'd keep the current system with a public option. Phase it in over years to eventually get rid of the insurance tied to employers. But you still have the option to purchase your own insurance. There's a lot more to it, and it involves increasing the Medicare tax.

    So I answered Race. Now you answer what you want to do to fix the medical system.
    So your against Bernie

    Me too
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Monday night that under his progressive “Medicare-for-all” proposal, Americans would not be able to keep existing health insurance coverage from private plans even if they wanted to do so.

    The Vermont senator told a CNN town hall that health care should be a “human right” and that the U.S. “shamefully” was the only major country on Earth “not to guarantee health care to all people.” He argued that the only “cost-effective” way to give all Americans health insurance would be with a “Medicare-for-all single-payer program.”

    CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer then pointed to statistics showing half of Americans get their health insurance through their employers and that a recent Gallup poll showed that 70 percent of those who get their insurance from their employers like it.

    “Will these people be able to keep their health insurance plans, their private plans through their employers, if there’s a 'Medicare-for-all' program that you endorse?” Blitzer asked.

    “No,” Sanders responded mid-question as he shook his head. “What will change in their plans is the color of their card. So, instead of having a Blue Cross/Blue Shield card, instead of having a United Health Insurance card, they're gonna have a Medicare card.”

    And?

    I'm not sure what you are scared of. Why you are pressing. There is no way that'll happen in your lifetime. The insurance lobby is too big and got stronger under Obamacare. They have both sides bought off. Just like the cannabis issue. It'll never happen because big pharma has both sides bought off.
    Are you sure that I'm scared? Maybe I am angry but not scared. Ever think of that?

    I'm against the elimination of private insurance. How about you?

    How come your defense of every bad idea by democrats is to attack "conservatives" and say it will never happen? Why is he running for President on that idea then? Why is he the front runner? Should I vote for him then because it will never happen?

    Do you have any more talking points about Big Pharma?
    I can't answer every question. I'm not a Bernie guy. If I were designing it, I'd keep the current system with a public option. Phase it in over years to eventually get rid of the insurance tied to employers. But you still have the option to purchase your own insurance. There's a lot more to it, and it involves increasing the Medicare tax.

    So I answered Race. Now you answer what you want to do to fix the medical system.
    So your against Bernie

    Me too
    Common ground. Now answer the question.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Monday night that under his progressive “Medicare-for-all” proposal, Americans would not be able to keep existing health insurance coverage from private plans even if they wanted to do so.

    The Vermont senator told a CNN town hall that health care should be a “human right” and that the U.S. “shamefully” was the only major country on Earth “not to guarantee health care to all people.” He argued that the only “cost-effective” way to give all Americans health insurance would be with a “Medicare-for-all single-payer program.”

    CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer then pointed to statistics showing half of Americans get their health insurance through their employers and that a recent Gallup poll showed that 70 percent of those who get their insurance from their employers like it.

    “Will these people be able to keep their health insurance plans, their private plans through their employers, if there’s a 'Medicare-for-all' program that you endorse?” Blitzer asked.

    “No,” Sanders responded mid-question as he shook his head. “What will change in their plans is the color of their card. So, instead of having a Blue Cross/Blue Shield card, instead of having a United Health Insurance card, they're gonna have a Medicare card.”

    And?

    I'm not sure what you are scared of. Why you are pressing. There is no way that'll happen in your lifetime. The insurance lobby is too big and got stronger under Obamacare. They have both sides bought off. Just like the cannabis issue. It'll never happen because big pharma has both sides bought off.
    Are you sure that I'm scared? Maybe I am angry but not scared. Ever think of that?

    I'm against the elimination of private insurance. How about you?

    How come your defense of every bad idea by democrats is to attack "conservatives" and say it will never happen? Why is he running for President on that idea then? Why is he the front runner? Should I vote for him then because it will never happen?

    Do you have any more talking points about Big Pharma?
    I can't answer every question. I'm not a Bernie guy. If I were designing it, I'd keep the current system with a public option. Phase it in over years to eventually get rid of the insurance tied to employers. But you still have the option to purchase your own insurance. There's a lot more to it, and it involves increasing the Medicare tax.

    So I answered Race. Now you answer what you want to do to fix the medical system.
    So your against Bernie

    Me too
    Common ground. Now answer the question.
    Yeah Race, take the time to answer Hondo's question about what you'd do to fix the Healthcare systems because I'm certain that he'll respond with a thoughtful and serious reply after you've done so.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Monday night that under his progressive “Medicare-for-all” proposal, Americans would not be able to keep existing health insurance coverage from private plans even if they wanted to do so.

    The Vermont senator told a CNN town hall that health care should be a “human right” and that the U.S. “shamefully” was the only major country on Earth “not to guarantee health care to all people.” He argued that the only “cost-effective” way to give all Americans health insurance would be with a “Medicare-for-all single-payer program.”

    CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer then pointed to statistics showing half of Americans get their health insurance through their employers and that a recent Gallup poll showed that 70 percent of those who get their insurance from their employers like it.

    “Will these people be able to keep their health insurance plans, their private plans through their employers, if there’s a 'Medicare-for-all' program that you endorse?” Blitzer asked.

    “No,” Sanders responded mid-question as he shook his head. “What will change in their plans is the color of their card. So, instead of having a Blue Cross/Blue Shield card, instead of having a United Health Insurance card, they're gonna have a Medicare card.”

    And?

    I'm not sure what you are scared of. Why you are pressing. There is no way that'll happen in your lifetime. The insurance lobby is too big and got stronger under Obamacare. They have both sides bought off. Just like the cannabis issue. It'll never happen because big pharma has both sides bought off.
    Are you sure that I'm scared? Maybe I am angry but not scared. Ever think of that?

    I'm against the elimination of private insurance. How about you?

    How come your defense of every bad idea by democrats is to attack "conservatives" and say it will never happen? Why is he running for President on that idea then? Why is he the front runner? Should I vote for him then because it will never happen?

    Do you have any more talking points about Big Pharma?
    I can't answer every question. I'm not a Bernie guy. If I were designing it, I'd keep the current system with a public option. Phase it in over years to eventually get rid of the insurance tied to employers. But you still have the option to purchase your own insurance. There's a lot more to it, and it involves increasing the Medicare tax.

    So I answered Race. Now you answer what you want to do to fix the medical system.
    So your against Bernie

    Me too
    Common ground. Now answer the question.
    Yeah Race, take the time to answer Hondo's question about what you'd do to fix the Healthcare systems because I'm certain that he'll respond with a thoughtful and serious reply after you've done so.
    I answered his same question. And you type that like you ever provide a thoughtful and serious response.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,750 Founders Club
    I asked this

    I'm against the elimination of private insurance. How about you?

    You answered. Thank you
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Monday night that under his progressive “Medicare-for-all” proposal, Americans would not be able to keep existing health insurance coverage from private plans even if they wanted to do so.

    The Vermont senator told a CNN town hall that health care should be a “human right” and that the U.S. “shamefully” was the only major country on Earth “not to guarantee health care to all people.” He argued that the only “cost-effective” way to give all Americans health insurance would be with a “Medicare-for-all single-payer program.”

    CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer then pointed to statistics showing half of Americans get their health insurance through their employers and that a recent Gallup poll showed that 70 percent of those who get their insurance from their employers like it.

    “Will these people be able to keep their health insurance plans, their private plans through their employers, if there’s a 'Medicare-for-all' program that you endorse?” Blitzer asked.

    “No,” Sanders responded mid-question as he shook his head. “What will change in their plans is the color of their card. So, instead of having a Blue Cross/Blue Shield card, instead of having a United Health Insurance card, they're gonna have a Medicare card.”

    And?

    I'm not sure what you are scared of. Why you are pressing. There is no way that'll happen in your lifetime. The insurance lobby is too big and got stronger under Obamacare. They have both sides bought off. Just like the cannabis issue. It'll never happen because big pharma has both sides bought off.
    Are you sure that I'm scared? Maybe I am angry but not scared. Ever think of that?

    I'm against the elimination of private insurance. How about you?

    How come your defense of every bad idea by democrats is to attack "conservatives" and say it will never happen? Why is he running for President on that idea then? Why is he the front runner? Should I vote for him then because it will never happen?

    Do you have any more talking points about Big Pharma?
    I can't answer every question. I'm not a Bernie guy. If I were designing it, I'd keep the current system with a public option. Phase it in over years to eventually get rid of the insurance tied to employers. But you still have the option to purchase your own insurance. There's a lot more to it, and it involves increasing the Medicare tax.

    So I answered Race. Now you answer what you want to do to fix the medical system.
    So your against Bernie

    Me too
    Common ground. Now answer the question.
    Yeah Race, take the time to answer Hondo's question about what you'd do to fix the Healthcare systems because I'm certain that he'll respond with a thoughtful and serious reply after you've done so.
    I answered his same question. And you type that like you ever provide a thoughtful and serious response.
    Hondo, just because you're both too stupid and too dishonest to give an honest and intelligent response doesn't mean that I've never given a serious response.

    Take for example your lie from the other day where you claimed I wanted Ralph Northen to step down. Days earlier you quoted me saying the exact opposite of that and yet that still didn't stop you from lying.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,750 Founders Club
    My solution is to get the feds out, reduce the medicare tax and let seniors die like they should.

    They used to saw off legs and arms with no morphine. We've gone soft
  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441

    My solution is to get the feds out, reduce the medicare tax and let seniors die like they should.

    They used to saw off legs and arms with no morphine. We've gone soft

    you guys live such rich lives in retirement communities though
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,750 Founders Club
    Retirement is for losers

    Never will
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    My solution is to get the feds out, reduce the medicare tax and let seniors die like they should.

    They used to saw off legs and arms with no morphine. We've gone soft

    But then we'd miss you here.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Employer paid health insurance is stupid. Whoever came up with that genius idea? Companies hate it, employees hate it, everyone hates it.
  • USMChawk
    USMChawk Member Posts: 1,800

    Employer paid health insurance is stupid. Whoever came up with that genius idea? Companies hate it, employees hate it, everyone hates it.

    It was implemented during WWII when the government instituted wage restrictions, on key war manufacturing businesses, as a means of cost control. Paying benefits became a way for businesses to attract employees without violating those wage restrictions.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Monday night that under his progressive “Medicare-for-all” proposal, Americans would not be able to keep existing health insurance coverage from private plans even if they wanted to do so.

    The Vermont senator told a CNN town hall that health care should be a “human right” and that the U.S. “shamefully” was the only major country on Earth “not to guarantee health care to all people.” He argued that the only “cost-effective” way to give all Americans health insurance would be with a “Medicare-for-all single-payer program.”

    CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer then pointed to statistics showing half of Americans get their health insurance through their employers and that a recent Gallup poll showed that 70 percent of those who get their insurance from their employers like it.

    “Will these people be able to keep their health insurance plans, their private plans through their employers, if there’s a 'Medicare-for-all' program that you endorse?” Blitzer asked.

    “No,” Sanders responded mid-question as he shook his head. “What will change in their plans is the color of their card. So, instead of having a Blue Cross/Blue Shield card, instead of having a United Health Insurance card, they're gonna have a Medicare card.”

    I gotta call BS on 70% of the people on employer plans actually like their insurance.

    I get it. If something really, really bad happens, you’re happy they’re paying hundreds of thousands of dollars while you’re only paying tens of thousands of $$$.

    But when it comes to the smaller issues, health insurance is about useless.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,750 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Monday night that under his progressive “Medicare-for-all” proposal, Americans would not be able to keep existing health insurance coverage from private plans even if they wanted to do so.

    The Vermont senator told a CNN town hall that health care should be a “human right” and that the U.S. “shamefully” was the only major country on Earth “not to guarantee health care to all people.” He argued that the only “cost-effective” way to give all Americans health insurance would be with a “Medicare-for-all single-payer program.”

    CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer then pointed to statistics showing half of Americans get their health insurance through their employers and that a recent Gallup poll showed that 70 percent of those who get their insurance from their employers like it.

    “Will these people be able to keep their health insurance plans, their private plans through their employers, if there’s a 'Medicare-for-all' program that you endorse?” Blitzer asked.

    “No,” Sanders responded mid-question as he shook his head. “What will change in their plans is the color of their card. So, instead of having a Blue Cross/Blue Shield card, instead of having a United Health Insurance card, they're gonna have a Medicare card.”

    I gotta call BS on 70% of the people on employer plans actually like their insurance.

    I get it. If something really, really bad happens, you’re happy they’re paying hundreds of thousands of dollars while you’re only paying tens of thousands of $$$.

    But when it comes to the smaller issues, health insurance is about useless.
    They may or may not like the employer part but they like choice not one size fits all shitty care

    The feds aren't spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on you

  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    edited March 2019

    salemcoog said:

    2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Monday night that under his progressive “Medicare-for-all” proposal, Americans would not be able to keep existing health insurance coverage from private plans even if they wanted to do so.

    The Vermont senator told a CNN town hall that health care should be a “human right” and that the U.S. “shamefully” was the only major country on Earth “not to guarantee health care to all people.” He argued that the only “cost-effective” way to give all Americans health insurance would be with a “Medicare-for-all single-payer program.”

    CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer then pointed to statistics showing half of Americans get their health insurance through their employers and that a recent Gallup poll showed that 70 percent of those who get their insurance from their employers like it.

    “Will these people be able to keep their health insurance plans, their private plans through their employers, if there’s a 'Medicare-for-all' program that you endorse?” Blitzer asked.

    “No,” Sanders responded mid-question as he shook his head. “What will change in their plans is the color of their card. So, instead of having a Blue Cross/Blue Shield card, instead of having a United Health Insurance card, they're gonna have a Medicare card.”

    I gotta call BS on 70% of the people on employer plans actually like their insurance.

    I get it. If something really, really bad happens, you’re happy they’re paying hundreds of thousands of dollars while you’re only paying tens of thousands of $$$.

    But when it comes to the smaller issues, health insurance is about useless.
    They may or may not like the employer part but they like choice not one size fits all shitty care

    The feds aren't spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on you

    Health insurance being tied to your job hurts job mobility and screws over businesses. It's terrible.

    Heathcare is the main issue I disagree with you old faggots on. Shit needs to change. Just pay like 5 groups 10 million each (because the govt is retarded and some bored college kid would do it for a few cases of beer but whatevs) to make a chart of all the healthcare systems with cost to individual, cost to govt, and level of care.

    Then copy the best one. Get insurance companies out of it. Get a baseline healthcare for like routine stuff and disaster stuff then a supplemental for mroe specialized and higher care stuff.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,750 Founders Club
    I didn't say it didn't need to change

    We heard it needed to change in 2008 and it changed for the worst

    What your advocating has nothing in common with what the dems want