Hondo and his merry comrades will be upset

Sledog said:

Yes. Emergency rooms are for emergencies. Not colds. Of course that really started when they passed laws that they were required to treat anyone for anything.

So you agree it'll save money. Da fuq is your problem?

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2001400ex said:

MikeDamone said:

Most people are idiots. Did we discover something new here?

Here’s a poll. “Should a billionaire give you a million dollars?”

I wonder what the results would be?

That's not what the poll said. It said "and pays by taxes". Most people with common sense knows going to single payer will save money. And the vast majority of people will pay less out of pocket. And we can end the bullshit of medical tied to work.

I know two people currently with cancer who can't leave their job because of medical insurance. One has a very good plan that is allowing an alternative treatment that most won't cover. The other wants to go out on his own but can't because his medical would cost too much.

Those are isolated instances but that shit happens all the time.

“Paid by taxes other people wil pay, the rich!” I’m all in!

Literally one small population country has single payer.

Saying “common sense” doesn’t help your logical fallacious argument. It just makes it a logical fallacy.

The Common Sense Fallacy (or ‘Appeal to Common Sense’) is somewhat related to the Argument from Popularity and/or the Argument from Tradition. However, it differs from these fallacies by not necessarily relying on popularity or tradition.

Instead, common sense relies on the vague notion of ‘obviousness’, which means something like ‘what we perceive from personal experience’ or ‘what we should know without having had to learn.’ In other words, common sense is not necessarily supported by evidence or reasoning. As such, beliefs based on common sense are unreliable. The fallacy lies in giving too much weight to common sense in drawing conclusions, at the expense of evidence and reasoning.

In some ways, scientific methods have been developed to avoid the errors that can result from common sense. For instance, common sense used to tell us that the Earth is flat and that the Sun revolves around the Earth – because that is the way things appear to us without scientific investigation. Another example of ‘common sense’ is that the world appears to have been designed, so therefore there must have been a designer.

Einstein’s theories of relativity were initially resisted, even by the scientific community, because they defied common sense. They seemed to belong more in the realm of science fiction than reality, until they were later verified by scientific observations. Our modern Global Positioning System (GPS) now uses Einstein’s relativity theories. This initial resistance may have led Einstein to later say that ”Common sense is nothing more than a deposit of prejudices laid down by the mind before you reach eighteen” .


Your anecdotal evidence is anecdotal. I know people who have cancer who were cured with out any financial hardship. So fuck off

allpurpleallgold said:

MikeDamone said:

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2001400ex said:

MikeDamone said:

Most people are idiots. Did we discover something new here?

Here’s a poll. “Should a billionaire give you a million dollars?”

I wonder what the results would be?

That's not what the poll said. It said "and pays by taxes". Most people with common sense knows going to single payer will save money. And the vast majority of people will pay less out of pocket. And we can end the bullshit of medical tied to work.

I know two people currently with cancer who can't leave their job because of medical insurance. One has a very good plan that is allowing an alternative treatment that most won't cover. The other wants to go out on his own but can't because his medical would cost too much.

Those are isolated instances but that shit happens all the time.

“Paid by taxes other people wil pay, the rich!” I’m all in!

Literally one small population country has single payer.

Saying “common sense” doesn’t help your logical fallacious argument. It just makes it a logical fallacy.

The Common Sense Fallacy (or ‘Appeal to Common Sense’) is somewhat related to the Argument from Popularity and/or the Argument from Tradition. However, it differs from these fallacies by not necessarily relying on popularity or tradition.

Instead, common sense relies on the vague notion of ‘obviousness’, which means something like ‘what we perceive from personal experience’ or ‘what we should know without having had to learn.’ In other words, common sense is not necessarily supported by evidence or reasoning. As such, beliefs based on common sense are unreliable. The fallacy lies in giving too much weight to common sense in drawing conclusions, at the expense of evidence and reasoning.

In some ways, scientific methods have been developed to avoid the errors that can result from common sense. For instance, common sense used to tell us that the Earth is flat and that the Sun revolves around the Earth – because that is the way things appear to us without scientific investigation. Another example of ‘common sense’ is that the world appears to have been designed, so therefore there must have been a designer.

Einstein’s theories of relativity were initially resisted, even by the scientific community, because they defied common sense. They seemed to belong more in the realm of science fiction than reality, until they were later verified by scientific observations. Our modern Global Positioning System (GPS) now uses Einstein’s relativity theories. This initial resistance may have led Einstein to later say that ”Common sense is nothing more than a deposit of prejudices laid down by the mind before you reach eighteen” .


Your anecdotal evidence is anecdotal. I know people who have cancer who were cured with out any financial hardship. So fuck off

Lol.

But muh common sense!

RaceBannon said:

I'm AGAINST cancer

Me too. I’m for heart disease though.

MikeDamone said:

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

Yes. Emergency rooms are for emergencies. Not colds. Of course that really started when they passed laws that they were required to treat anyone for anything.

So you agree it'll save money. Da fuq is your problem?

The old emergency room ruse. That was one of the big savings that Obamacare was supposed to address. It didn’t, but next time it definitely will. HondoFS

Muh common sense!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/26625571

Obamacare didn't accomplish a lot of the goals they thought it would.

I would love to see how the Republican health Care plan would work.

RaceBannon said:

I would have liked to see a GOP plan myself. They lost the house by being gutless and not doing what they were voted in to do

They had 8 years of control and the last two with the presidency as well.