Winning back democrat voters
Labor Unions are warning that the "Green New Deal" proposed by Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is vague and potentially dangerous, signaling that the progressive proposal may be in for even more turbulence following a rocky rollout last week.
While conservatives have fiercely criticized the Green New Deal resolution for promising a job to "all people of the United States" -- including those "unwilling to work," according to an accompanying document published, and later disavowed, by Ocasio-Cortez's office -- the pushback from union leaders indicates that the progressive proposal has not won over a core element of the liberal base.
Speaking to Reuters, a spokesman for the coal industry union United Mine Workers (UMWA) characterized Ocasio-Cortez's goals as lofty and potentially dangerous to rank-and-file blue collar workers.
In particular, union officials took umbrage at the resolution's call for a "fair and just transition for all communities and workers" in order to "achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions" in the span of just ten years.
Me here - we know you hate coal workers but wait there is more!
“We’ve heard words like ‘just transition’ before, but what does that really mean?" the spokesman, Phil Smith, said in an interview. "Our members are worried about putting food on the table."
UMWA, which includes approximately 80,000 members, represents not only coal miners and clean coal technicians, but also manufacturing workers, health care workers, and corrections officers in both the U.S. and Canada.
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Added Yvette Pena O’Sullivan, the executive director of the Laborers’ International Union of North America (LIUNA): “We will never settle for ‘just transition’ language as a solution to the job losses that will surely come from some of the policies in the resolution."
LIUNA, a construction union, has about 500,000 members, including 80,000 in Canada. And executives at another construction union, the North America’s Building Trades Union (NABTU), raised similar concerns.
Union members “working in the oil and gas sector can make a middle-class living, whereas renewable energy firms have been less generous,” Sean McGarvey, NABTU's president, said last week.
Why be generous when you can just shoot your workers after the Green New Deal?
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Cocaine Mitch is going to bring a bill to the floor of the Senate getting the Rats on the record for their support of the GND.
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YND vote is coming first.SFGbob said:Cocaine Mitch is going to bring a bill to the floor of the Senate getting the Rats on the record for their support of the GND.
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I thought labor left the left long ago. Trump's embracing of protectionist politics is a big part of what makes neo-populism ... neo-populism. Grays Harbor was blue when I grew up there. It's very red now.RaceBannon said:<"http://www.foxnews.com/politics/union-leaders-voice-skepticism-on-green-new-deal-what-does-that-really-mean">https://foxnews.com/politics/union-leaders-voice-skepticism-on-green-new-deal-what-does-that-really-mean
Labor Unions are warning that the "Green New Deal" proposed by Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is vague and potentially dangerous, signaling that the progressive proposal may be in for even more turbulence following a rocky rollout last week.
While conservatives have fiercely criticized the Green New Deal resolution for promising a job to "all people of the United States" -- including those "unwilling to work," according to an accompanying document published, and later disavowed, by Ocasio-Cortez's office -- the pushback from union leaders indicates that the progressive proposal has not won over a core element of the liberal base.
Speaking to Reuters, a spokesman for the coal industry union United Mine Workers (UMWA) characterized Ocasio-Cortez's goals as lofty and potentially dangerous to rank-and-file blue collar workers.
In particular, union officials took umbrage at the resolution's call for a "fair and just transition for all communities and workers" in order to "achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions" in the span of just ten years.
Me here - we know you hate coal workers but wait there is more!
“We’ve heard words like ‘just transition’ before, but what does that really mean?" the spokesman, Phil Smith, said in an interview. "Our members are worried about putting food on the table."
UMWA, which includes approximately 80,000 members, represents not only coal miners and clean coal technicians, but also manufacturing workers, health care workers, and corrections officers in both the U.S. and Canada.
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Added Yvette Pena O’Sullivan, the executive director of the Laborers’ International Union of North America (LIUNA): “We will never settle for ‘just transition’ language as a solution to the job losses that will surely come from some of the policies in the resolution."
LIUNA, a construction union, has about 500,000 members, including 80,000 in Canada. And executives at another construction union, the North America’s Building Trades Union (NABTU), raised similar concerns.
Union members “working in the oil and gas sector can make a middle-class living, whereas renewable energy firms have been less generous,” Sean McGarvey, NABTU's president, said last week.
Why be generous when you can just shoot your workers after the Green New Deal? -
The only labor that still votes overwhelmingly Rat are the public employee unions
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So I guess the border isn't a phony issue that dumb people leave the Democrats forcreepycoug said:
I thought labor left the left long ago. Trump's embracing of protectionist politics is a big part of what makes neo-populism ... neo-populism. Grays Harbor was blue when I grew up there. It's very red now.RaceBannon said:<"http://www.foxnews.com/politics/union-leaders-voice-skepticism-on-green-new-deal-what-does-that-really-mean">https://foxnews.com/politics/union-leaders-voice-skepticism-on-green-new-deal-what-does-that-really-mean
Labor Unions are warning that the "Green New Deal" proposed by Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is vague and potentially dangerous, signaling that the progressive proposal may be in for even more turbulence following a rocky rollout last week.
While conservatives have fiercely criticized the Green New Deal resolution for promising a job to "all people of the United States" -- including those "unwilling to work," according to an accompanying document published, and later disavowed, by Ocasio-Cortez's office -- the pushback from union leaders indicates that the progressive proposal has not won over a core element of the liberal base.
Speaking to Reuters, a spokesman for the coal industry union United Mine Workers (UMWA) characterized Ocasio-Cortez's goals as lofty and potentially dangerous to rank-and-file blue collar workers.
In particular, union officials took umbrage at the resolution's call for a "fair and just transition for all communities and workers" in order to "achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions" in the span of just ten years.
Me here - we know you hate coal workers but wait there is more!
“We’ve heard words like ‘just transition’ before, but what does that really mean?" the spokesman, Phil Smith, said in an interview. "Our members are worried about putting food on the table."
UMWA, which includes approximately 80,000 members, represents not only coal miners and clean coal technicians, but also manufacturing workers, health care workers, and corrections officers in both the U.S. and Canada.
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Added Yvette Pena O’Sullivan, the executive director of the Laborers’ International Union of North America (LIUNA): “We will never settle for ‘just transition’ language as a solution to the job losses that will surely come from some of the policies in the resolution."
LIUNA, a construction union, has about 500,000 members, including 80,000 in Canada. And executives at another construction union, the North America’s Building Trades Union (NABTU), raised similar concerns.
Union members “working in the oil and gas sector can make a middle-class living, whereas renewable energy firms have been less generous,” Sean McGarvey, NABTU's president, said last week.
Why be generous when you can just shoot your workers after the Green New Deal?
Make up your mind
Open borders fucks wages. A real fucking issue -
I didn't say anybody was dumb. And I said labor left the left.RaceBannon said:
So I guess the border isn't a phony issue that dumb people leave the Democrats forcreepycoug said:
I thought labor left the left long ago. Trump's embracing of protectionist politics is a big part of what makes neo-populism ... neo-populism. Grays Harbor was blue when I grew up there. It's very red now.RaceBannon said:<"http://www.foxnews.com/politics/union-leaders-voice-skepticism-on-green-new-deal-what-does-that-really-mean">https://foxnews.com/politics/union-leaders-voice-skepticism-on-green-new-deal-what-does-that-really-mean
Labor Unions are warning that the "Green New Deal" proposed by Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is vague and potentially dangerous, signaling that the progressive proposal may be in for even more turbulence following a rocky rollout last week.
While conservatives have fiercely criticized the Green New Deal resolution for promising a job to "all people of the United States" -- including those "unwilling to work," according to an accompanying document published, and later disavowed, by Ocasio-Cortez's office -- the pushback from union leaders indicates that the progressive proposal has not won over a core element of the liberal base.
Speaking to Reuters, a spokesman for the coal industry union United Mine Workers (UMWA) characterized Ocasio-Cortez's goals as lofty and potentially dangerous to rank-and-file blue collar workers.
In particular, union officials took umbrage at the resolution's call for a "fair and just transition for all communities and workers" in order to "achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions" in the span of just ten years.
Me here - we know you hate coal workers but wait there is more!
“We’ve heard words like ‘just transition’ before, but what does that really mean?" the spokesman, Phil Smith, said in an interview. "Our members are worried about putting food on the table."
UMWA, which includes approximately 80,000 members, represents not only coal miners and clean coal technicians, but also manufacturing workers, health care workers, and corrections officers in both the U.S. and Canada.
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Added Yvette Pena O’Sullivan, the executive director of the Laborers’ International Union of North America (LIUNA): “We will never settle for ‘just transition’ language as a solution to the job losses that will surely come from some of the policies in the resolution."
LIUNA, a construction union, has about 500,000 members, including 80,000 in Canada. And executives at another construction union, the North America’s Building Trades Union (NABTU), raised similar concerns.
Union members “working in the oil and gas sector can make a middle-class living, whereas renewable energy firms have been less generous,” Sean McGarvey, NABTU's president, said last week.
Why be generous when you can just shoot your workers after the Green New Deal?
Make up your mind
Open borders fucks wages. A real fucking issue
And I said the group I've seen the comment aimed at are people who are dependent on government programs ... entitlements ... whatever you want to call them.
Does it bother you that I point out that Trump has changed the Republican narrative about protectionist policy? I personally don't agree with it, but I wasn't taking him to task for it in this post. It is what it is. -
Nobody is touching entitlementscreepycoug said:
I didn't say anybody was dumb. And I said labor left the left.RaceBannon said:
So I guess the border isn't a phony issue that dumb people leave the Democrats forcreepycoug said:
I thought labor left the left long ago. Trump's embracing of protectionist politics is a big part of what makes neo-populism ... neo-populism. Grays Harbor was blue when I grew up there. It's very red now.RaceBannon said:<"http://www.foxnews.com/politics/union-leaders-voice-skepticism-on-green-new-deal-what-does-that-really-mean">https://foxnews.com/politics/union-leaders-voice-skepticism-on-green-new-deal-what-does-that-really-mean
Labor Unions are warning that the "Green New Deal" proposed by Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is vague and potentially dangerous, signaling that the progressive proposal may be in for even more turbulence following a rocky rollout last week.
While conservatives have fiercely criticized the Green New Deal resolution for promising a job to "all people of the United States" -- including those "unwilling to work," according to an accompanying document published, and later disavowed, by Ocasio-Cortez's office -- the pushback from union leaders indicates that the progressive proposal has not won over a core element of the liberal base.
Speaking to Reuters, a spokesman for the coal industry union United Mine Workers (UMWA) characterized Ocasio-Cortez's goals as lofty and potentially dangerous to rank-and-file blue collar workers.
In particular, union officials took umbrage at the resolution's call for a "fair and just transition for all communities and workers" in order to "achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions" in the span of just ten years.
Me here - we know you hate coal workers but wait there is more!
“We’ve heard words like ‘just transition’ before, but what does that really mean?" the spokesman, Phil Smith, said in an interview. "Our members are worried about putting food on the table."
UMWA, which includes approximately 80,000 members, represents not only coal miners and clean coal technicians, but also manufacturing workers, health care workers, and corrections officers in both the U.S. and Canada.
C
Added Yvette Pena O’Sullivan, the executive director of the Laborers’ International Union of North America (LIUNA): “We will never settle for ‘just transition’ language as a solution to the job losses that will surely come from some of the policies in the resolution."
LIUNA, a construction union, has about 500,000 members, including 80,000 in Canada. And executives at another construction union, the North America’s Building Trades Union (NABTU), raised similar concerns.
Union members “working in the oil and gas sector can make a middle-class living, whereas renewable energy firms have been less generous,” Sean McGarvey, NABTU's president, said last week.
Why be generous when you can just shoot your workers after the Green New Deal?
Make up your mind
Open borders fucks wages. A real fucking issue
And I said the group I've seen the comment aimed at are people who are dependent on government programs ... entitlements ... whatever you want to call them.
Does it bother you that I point out that Trump has changed the Republican narrative about protectionist policy? I personally don't agree with it, but I wasn't taking him to task for it in this post. It is what it is.
The Green New Deal might eliminate them when we go broke
People dependent on the dole are still reliable dems voters -
I agree with the comment about going broke.RaceBannon said:
Nobody is touching entitlementscreepycoug said:
I didn't say anybody was dumb. And I said labor left the left.RaceBannon said:
So I guess the border isn't a phony issue that dumb people leave the Democrats forcreepycoug said:
I thought labor left the left long ago. Trump's embracing of protectionist politics is a big part of what makes neo-populism ... neo-populism. Grays Harbor was blue when I grew up there. It's very red now.RaceBannon said:<"http://www.foxnews.com/politics/union-leaders-voice-skepticism-on-green-new-deal-what-does-that-really-mean">https://foxnews.com/politics/union-leaders-voice-skepticism-on-green-new-deal-what-does-that-really-mean
Labor Unions are warning that the "Green New Deal" proposed by Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is vague and potentially dangerous, signaling that the progressive proposal may be in for even more turbulence following a rocky rollout last week.
While conservatives have fiercely criticized the Green New Deal resolution for promising a job to "all people of the United States" -- including those "unwilling to work," according to an accompanying document published, and later disavowed, by Ocasio-Cortez's office -- the pushback from union leaders indicates that the progressive proposal has not won over a core element of the liberal base.
Speaking to Reuters, a spokesman for the coal industry union United Mine Workers (UMWA) characterized Ocasio-Cortez's goals as lofty and potentially dangerous to rank-and-file blue collar workers.
In particular, union officials took umbrage at the resolution's call for a "fair and just transition for all communities and workers" in order to "achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions" in the span of just ten years.
Me here - we know you hate coal workers but wait there is more!
“We’ve heard words like ‘just transition’ before, but what does that really mean?" the spokesman, Phil Smith, said in an interview. "Our members are worried about putting food on the table."
UMWA, which includes approximately 80,000 members, represents not only coal miners and clean coal technicians, but also manufacturing workers, health care workers, and corrections officers in both the U.S. and Canada.
C
Added Yvette Pena O’Sullivan, the executive director of the Laborers’ International Union of North America (LIUNA): “We will never settle for ‘just transition’ language as a solution to the job losses that will surely come from some of the policies in the resolution."
LIUNA, a construction union, has about 500,000 members, including 80,000 in Canada. And executives at another construction union, the North America’s Building Trades Union (NABTU), raised similar concerns.
Union members “working in the oil and gas sector can make a middle-class living, whereas renewable energy firms have been less generous,” Sean McGarvey, NABTU's president, said last week.
Why be generous when you can just shoot your workers after the Green New Deal?
Make up your mind
Open borders fucks wages. A real fucking issue
And I said the group I've seen the comment aimed at are people who are dependent on government programs ... entitlements ... whatever you want to call them.
Does it bother you that I point out that Trump has changed the Republican narrative about protectionist policy? I personally don't agree with it, but I wasn't taking him to task for it in this post. It is what it is.
The Green New Deal might eliminate them when we go broke
People dependent on the dole are still reliable dems voters
On the second point, I don't think it's as clean as it once was. A lot of people on the dole, and people very dependent on SS (if that's different) moved away from the Dems because Trump speaks to them on other issues. I've no doubt about that.
When I was a kid, the Dems were the worker party. They are now the day dream party, and the Republican party, once the fierce enemy of the common worker (or so it was spun), is now the party of the working class.
That is perfectly mirrored in Grays Harbor, which was my point about the change in politics there. That is Trump country now. 1000 %. If I don't know anything else, I know that. -
I would trust Trump to keep the economy going to keep my checks coming more than I'd trust the party that wants me to die
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That's such horse shit. Every welfare recipient in Grays Harbor and Mason counties vote a straight GOP ticket. 100 fucking percent. It's like that in Matlock, Ryderwood, and all over the SE United States, too.RaceBannon said:
Nobody is touching entitlementscreepycoug said:
I didn't say anybody was dumb. And I said labor left the left.RaceBannon said:
So I guess the border isn't a phony issue that dumb people leave the Democrats forcreepycoug said:
I thought labor left the left long ago. Trump's embracing of protectionist politics is a big part of what makes neo-populism ... neo-populism. Grays Harbor was blue when I grew up there. It's very red now.RaceBannon said:<"http://www.foxnews.com/politics/union-leaders-voice-skepticism-on-green-new-deal-what-does-that-really-mean">https://foxnews.com/politics/union-leaders-voice-skepticism-on-green-new-deal-what-does-that-really-mean
Labor Unions are warning that the "Green New Deal" proposed by Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is vague and potentially dangerous, signaling that the progressive proposal may be in for even more turbulence following a rocky rollout last week.
While conservatives have fiercely criticized the Green New Deal resolution for promising a job to "all people of the United States" -- including those "unwilling to work," according to an accompanying document published, and later disavowed, by Ocasio-Cortez's office -- the pushback from union leaders indicates that the progressive proposal has not won over a core element of the liberal base.
Speaking to Reuters, a spokesman for the coal industry union United Mine Workers (UMWA) characterized Ocasio-Cortez's goals as lofty and potentially dangerous to rank-and-file blue collar workers.
In particular, union officials took umbrage at the resolution's call for a "fair and just transition for all communities and workers" in order to "achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions" in the span of just ten years.
Me here - we know you hate coal workers but wait there is more!
“We’ve heard words like ‘just transition’ before, but what does that really mean?" the spokesman, Phil Smith, said in an interview. "Our members are worried about putting food on the table."
UMWA, which includes approximately 80,000 members, represents not only coal miners and clean coal technicians, but also manufacturing workers, health care workers, and corrections officers in both the U.S. and Canada.
C
Added Yvette Pena O’Sullivan, the executive director of the Laborers’ International Union of North America (LIUNA): “We will never settle for ‘just transition’ language as a solution to the job losses that will surely come from some of the policies in the resolution."
LIUNA, a construction union, has about 500,000 members, including 80,000 in Canada. And executives at another construction union, the North America’s Building Trades Union (NABTU), raised similar concerns.
Union members “working in the oil and gas sector can make a middle-class living, whereas renewable energy firms have been less generous,” Sean McGarvey, NABTU's president, said last week.
Why be generous when you can just shoot your workers after the Green New Deal?
Make up your mind
Open borders fucks wages. A real fucking issue
And I said the group I've seen the comment aimed at are people who are dependent on government programs ... entitlements ... whatever you want to call them.
Does it bother you that I point out that Trump has changed the Republican narrative about protectionist policy? I personally don't agree with it, but I wasn't taking him to task for it in this post. It is what it is.
The Green New Deal might eliminate them when we go broke
People dependent on the dole are still reliable dems voters
Don't try to bullshit me and creep. We've been around almost as long as you have. Well, that's a lie.......but we're not kids or fools.
Welfare and being a loser is not party-specific.
