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DoogCourics
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Recruiting Analysis of Clemson West's Trajectory vs Clemson East's Trajectory.
Trigger warning for @Swaye , I used the composite scores because I am comparing against Clemson and I was not going to work that hard to find out their 247 Blue Chips vs Composite Blue Chips.
Washington Recruiting:
2015 Recruiting Class - 26th in Country - 5 Four Stars - 18 Three Stars - 85.77 Average Composite - 5 Blue Chip
2016 Recruiting Class - 29th in Country - 7 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 87.42 Average Composite - 7 Blue Chip
2017 Recruiting Class - 22nd in Country - 9 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.45 Average Composite - 9 Blue Chip
2018 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 10 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 90.21 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2019 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 15 Four Stars - 8 Three Stars - 90.10 Average Composite - 15 Blue Chip
For @Swaye , this class is actually rated 11th in the Country by 247 and has 16 Blue Chips when Cam Williams is added as a Four Star.
Clemson Recruiting:
2009 Recruiting Class - 36th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 89.91 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2010 Recruiting Class - 27th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 15 Three Stars - 85.94 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2011 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 6 Four Stars - 20 Three Stars - 87.17 Average Composite - 9 Blue Chip
2012 Recruiting Class - 20th in Country - 10 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 89.03 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2013 Recruiting Class - 15th in Country - 1 Five Star - 10 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.46 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
2014 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 10 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.69 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2015 Recruiting Class - 9th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 9 Four Stars - 12 Three Stars - 89.12 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
2016 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 1 Five Star - 11 Four Stars - 8 Three Stars - 90.30 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
2017 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 2 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 4 Three Stars - 92.10 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2018 Recruiting Class - 7th in Country - 5 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 5 Three Stars - 93.45 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
2019 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 1 Five Stars - 12 Four Stars - 15 Three Stars - 89.76 Average Composite - 13 Blue Chip
For @Swaye , this is actually rated 15th in the Country by 247.
Through 5 full classes, Pete is on the exact trajectory (in fact a quite a bit better in year 5) in regards to level of recruiting that Dabo was on through 5 full classes. Stacking double digit Blue Chip classes is the current level. Next level is landing Five Stars (which 2020 and 2021 match up well with for UW).
Trigger warning for @Swaye , I used the composite scores because I am comparing against Clemson and I was not going to work that hard to find out their 247 Blue Chips vs Composite Blue Chips.
Washington Recruiting:
2015 Recruiting Class - 26th in Country - 5 Four Stars - 18 Three Stars - 85.77 Average Composite - 5 Blue Chip
2016 Recruiting Class - 29th in Country - 7 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 87.42 Average Composite - 7 Blue Chip
2017 Recruiting Class - 22nd in Country - 9 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.45 Average Composite - 9 Blue Chip
2018 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 10 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 90.21 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2019 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 15 Four Stars - 8 Three Stars - 90.10 Average Composite - 15 Blue Chip
For @Swaye , this class is actually rated 11th in the Country by 247 and has 16 Blue Chips when Cam Williams is added as a Four Star.
Clemson Recruiting:
2009 Recruiting Class - 36th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 89.91 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2010 Recruiting Class - 27th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 15 Three Stars - 85.94 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2011 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 6 Four Stars - 20 Three Stars - 87.17 Average Composite - 9 Blue Chip
2012 Recruiting Class - 20th in Country - 10 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 89.03 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2013 Recruiting Class - 15th in Country - 1 Five Star - 10 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.46 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
2014 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 10 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.69 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2015 Recruiting Class - 9th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 9 Four Stars - 12 Three Stars - 89.12 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
2016 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 1 Five Star - 11 Four Stars - 8 Three Stars - 90.30 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
2017 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 2 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 4 Three Stars - 92.10 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2018 Recruiting Class - 7th in Country - 5 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 5 Three Stars - 93.45 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
2019 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 1 Five Stars - 12 Four Stars - 15 Three Stars - 89.76 Average Composite - 13 Blue Chip
For @Swaye , this is actually rated 15th in the Country by 247.
Through 5 full classes, Pete is on the exact trajectory (in fact a quite a bit better in year 5) in regards to level of recruiting that Dabo was on through 5 full classes. Stacking double digit Blue Chip classes is the current level. Next level is landing Five Stars (which 2020 and 2021 match up well with for UW).
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Recruiting classes are cool to look at but overall team talent each year is also a good indicator. 2019 Total Team Composite rankings aren't available yet (I'll be updating this when it comes out), but here are the preliminary numbers.
Washington:
2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 29th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 15 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 10 Two Stars (or less) - 85.09 Average Composite Score - 15 Blue Chip
2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 21 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 8 Two Stars (or less) - 85.73 Average Composite Score - 21 Blue Chip
2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 23 Four Stars - 55 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or less) - 85.98 Average Composite Score - 23 Blue Chip
2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 20th in Country - 1 Five Star - 31 Four Stars - 47 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 87.25 Average Composite Score - 31 Blue Chip
2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - Ranking Not Available - 1 Five Star - 42 Four Star - 43 Three Star (Couch Sale needed) - Average Composite Score Not Available - 43 Blue Chip
For @Swaye , the number of Blue Chips jumps up to 46 if you use the 247 rankings.
Pete finally has the Blue Chip Ratio needed to compete for National Championships going into his 6th year at UW. This is faster than Clemson.
Clemson:
Lost National Championship 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 13th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 29 Four Stars - 27 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or less) - 88.57 Average Composite Score - 33 Blue Chip
Won National Championship 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 35 Four Stars - 35 Three Stars - 5 Two Stars (or less) - 88.91 Average Composite Score - 39 Blue Chip
Lost in Semi Finals to Bama 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 6 Five Stars - 34 Four Stars - 31 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or less) - 89.21 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip
Won National Championship 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 6th in Country - 9 Five Star - 37 Four Stars - 24 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 90.23 Average Composite Score - 46 Blue Chip
Dabo hit the Blue Chip Ratio needed to compete for National Championships going into his 9th/10th year at Clemson. Not as fast as Pete, however he outkicked his coverage and got to the Championship in his 8th year with only 33 Blue Chips. Dabo had a generational QB and won the big games, which Pete hasn't.
UW will never get the recruiting classes of Bama/Georgia/tOSU due to region and lack of attrition needed to take huge classes that add up points, but Pete has shown the ability to consistently stack quality talent and his biggest strength is player development (see BBK being an All-American). Clemson and Dabo have shown that's all you need to win titles.
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Hey faggot stop using composite like a bitch!
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I gave Swaye what he wanted which was current 247 stars and power rankings as an addendum.backthepack said:Hey faggot stop using composite like a bitch!
If you would like to click on Clemson’s classes and find out who was a four star and who wasn’t according to 247, go right ahead you little cunt. I’d be glad to see you do some work.
Until then:
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Southern recruits are better than west coast recruits, and the southern are predominantly full black, not half. So imo, the comparison doesn’t play out well for us.
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I’d rather do that the majority of my assignments not gunna lie.DoogCourics said:
I gave Swaye what he wanted which was current 247 stars and power rankings as an addendum.backthepack said:Hey faggot stop using composite like a bitch!
If you would like to click on Clemson’s classes and find out who was a four star and who wasn’t according to 247, go right ahead you little cunt. I’d be glad to see you do some work.
Until then:
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WTF are you talking about?vadawg said:Southern recruits are better than west coast recruits, and the southern are predominantly full black, not half. So imo, the comparison doesn’t play out well for us.
Peace
If you look at NFL draft results vs. recruiting rankings recruits from the Southeast are consistently OVERRATED compared to recruits from the West.
Which is obvious when you look at the amount of resources these companies put into scouting the Southeast compared to the West and when you consider where most of their customers and $$$ are coming from. -
If we're going to argue demographics, when it comes to football Poly >>> black.vadawg said:Southern recruits are better than west coast recruits, and the southern are predominantly full black, not half. So imo, the comparison doesn’t play out well for us.
Peace
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