Bruce Wayne lives
Tuli and Irvin and missed on Barber Shop
This year UW took 3 of our 4 late targets:
Heimuli, Turner, Nacua and missed on TootToot
This year's isn't as impressive because we went into the late period a massive favorite for Heimuli and having had a commit from Turner, but honestly we were only considered the favorite for Heimuli out of the 4 and not super involved on Nacua or Toots. Also you could add Ford to the misses I suppose which makes it 3 out 5.
If you add late commits in the early period you can add Taimani and Gordon to last year's tally as well as Kaho (lol). This year we reeled in McDuffie and Latu late in the early period.
Bottom line is this staff is far above average at locking up solid classes early and has come a long way in their ability to close key targets in December and beyond.
This is all assuming Nacua signs of course.
PTSD doesn't go away in two classes.
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WE FUCKING CLOSED.
Bruce Wayne lives in Malloe's pants, man. He's like the reasonable guy that stops fights in bars, then takes the bitch home because they feel safe. -
He should be paid more than KBDennis_DeYoung said:WE FUCKING CLOSED.
Bruce Wayne lives in Malloe's pants, man. He's like the reasonable guy that stops fights in bars, then takes the bitch home because they feel safe. -
Does Kaho count as a close last class or a miss?
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I count Kaho as a big time close.
I evaluate guys at every step of the process... do we evaluate well? Do we recruit well? Do we develop well? Do we coach well? All of it matters.
We closed Kaho. That was a very odd circumstance and clearly it doesn't happen often.
In terms of the close - yeah - we got him.
I think we would've closed Henry if his dad didn't say no. -
Pumpy double poast... if anyone stayed up last night (or this morning in Europe) they saw a super pissed off mom reluctant to be on TV saying it was very stressful and she’s just happy it’s over. In real-time it felt awkward that Puka pulled her on TV, but in hindsight it may have been a very public move to show everyone watching that they both made the decision and that it’s over. I’d like to see the signed LOI (maybe it’s already in) and him in LEAP before it seems totally over.LoneStarDawg said:Does Kaho count as a close last class or a miss?
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Not what I'm hearing..
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I think more needs to be said about USC's recent neutering in the recruiting game. Yes, their on-field product sucked this year, which absolutely contributed to their struggles. But it sure looks like this newer generation of LA kids are a lot more willing to leave the SoCal bubble than they have been in year's past. USC use to have about as much trouble as Texas did in just sleepwalking their way into landing local blue chip after blue chip. You always knew, regardless of who was doing the recruiting, that there was a large contingent of very talent recruits that just had no interest in leaving the greater LA area. That trend seems to be, or has already faded. USC may be losing their biggest inherent advantage that they've had for decades, and that opportunity can't be overlooked.
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Until someone like Urbs takes over. Then the conference will be pillaged by the Trojan hordes with only the purple kingdom to the north to stand in their way.GreenRiverGatorz said:I think more needs to be said about USC's recent neutering in the recruiting game. Yes, their on-field product sucked this year, which absolutely contributed to their struggles. But it sure looks like this newer generation of LA kids are a lot more willing to leave the SoCal bubble than they have been in year's past. USC use to have about as much trouble as Texas did in just sleepwalking their way into landing local blue chip after blue chip. You always knew, regardless of who was doing the recruiting, that there was a large contingent of very talent recruits that just had no interest in leaving the greater LA area. That trend seems to be, or has already faded. USC may be losing their biggest inherent advantage that they've had for decades, and that opportunity can't be overlooked.
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SC will eventually make a great hire and be BACK. Their upside is the same it has always been.GreenRiverGatorz said:I think more needs to be said about USC's recent neutering in the recruiting game. Yes, their on-field product sucked this year, which absolutely contributed to their struggles. But it sure looks like this newer generation of LA kids are a lot more willing to leave the SoCal bubble than they have been in year's past. USC use to have about as much trouble as Texas did in just sleepwalking their way into landing local blue chip after blue chip. You always knew, regardless of who was doing the recruiting, that there was a large contingent of very talent recruits that just had no interest in leaving the greater LA area. That trend seems to be, or has already faded. USC may be losing their biggest inherent advantage that they've had for decades, and that opportunity can't be overlooked.
The big difference is they aren’t guaranteed to have top ten classes in the meantime like they always have been. The floor has dropped considerably. -
I'm going to be legitimately worried if they manage to get Franklin this year.HillsboroDuck said:
SC will eventually make a great hire and be BACK. Their upside is the same it has always been.GreenRiverGatorz said:I think more needs to be said about USC's recent neutering in the recruiting game. Yes, their on-field product sucked this year, which absolutely contributed to their struggles. But it sure looks like this newer generation of LA kids are a lot more willing to leave the SoCal bubble than they have been in year's past. USC use to have about as much trouble as Texas did in just sleepwalking their way into landing local blue chip after blue chip. You always knew, regardless of who was doing the recruiting, that there was a large contingent of very talent recruits that just had no interest in leaving the greater LA area. That trend seems to be, or has already faded. USC may be losing their biggest inherent advantage that they've had for decades, and that opportunity can't be overlooked.
The big difference is they aren’t guaranteed to have top ten classes in the meantime like they always have been. -
Why is this? Even Ty managed to get Jack Locker and Kevario Middleton. Even the most inept coaching staffs at the worst programs are going to be able to keep some percentage of local studs home.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm going to be legitimately worried if they manage to get Franklin this year.HillsboroDuck said:
SC will eventually make a great hire and be BACK. Their upside is the same it has always been.GreenRiverGatorz said:I think more needs to be said about USC's recent neutering in the recruiting game. Yes, their on-field product sucked this year, which absolutely contributed to their struggles. But it sure looks like this newer generation of LA kids are a lot more willing to leave the SoCal bubble than they have been in year's past. USC use to have about as much trouble as Texas did in just sleepwalking their way into landing local blue chip after blue chip. You always knew, regardless of who was doing the recruiting, that there was a large contingent of very talent recruits that just had no interest in leaving the greater LA area. That trend seems to be, or has already faded. USC may be losing their biggest inherent advantage that they've had for decades, and that opportunity can't be overlooked.
The big difference is they aren’t guaranteed to have top ten classes in the meantime like they always have been.
I mean besides WSU of course. -
Franklin would legitimately bite into our expanded recruiting footprint(Oregon, Utah, Hawaii, etc.) and immediately put SC back on the map. He's a rilly rill recruiter and not at all a bad developer or in-game coach.HillsboroDuck said:
Why is this? Even Ty managed to get Jack Locker and Kevario Middleton. Even the most inept coaching staffs at the worst programs are going to be able to keep some percentage of local studs home.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm going to be legitimately worried if they manage to get Franklin this year.HillsboroDuck said:
SC will eventually make a great hire and be BACK. Their upside is the same it has always been.GreenRiverGatorz said:I think more needs to be said about USC's recent neutering in the recruiting game. Yes, their on-field product sucked this year, which absolutely contributed to their struggles. But it sure looks like this newer generation of LA kids are a lot more willing to leave the SoCal bubble than they have been in year's past. USC use to have about as much trouble as Texas did in just sleepwalking their way into landing local blue chip after blue chip. You always knew, regardless of who was doing the recruiting, that there was a large contingent of very talent recruits that just had no interest in leaving the greater LA area. That trend seems to be, or has already faded. USC may be losing their biggest inherent advantage that they've had for decades, and that opportunity can't be overlooked.
The big difference is they aren’t guaranteed to have top ten classes in the meantime like they always have been.
I mean besides WSU of course.
Washington State doesn't produce enough talent to get us over the hump. We have to recruit beyond that. It will be a lot harder with a resurgent USC.
Also, one bad recruiting class could easily be made up with their current numbers. Franklin could come in and be competing for the Pac12 title in 2020 with a still loaded roster.
Prayingdoog.gif that Helton hangs on for another year because of the administrative mess at USC or that they flop and hire some bad NFL retread or otherwise useless coach.
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I thought you meant Troy Franklin not James Franklin.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Franklin would legitimately bite into our expanded recruiting footprint(Oregon, Utah, Hawaii, etc.) and immediately put SC back on the map. He's a rilly rill recruiter and not at all a bad developer or in-game coach.HillsboroDuck said:
Why is this? Even Ty managed to get Jack Locker and Kevario Middleton. Even the most inept coaching staffs at the worst programs are going to be able to keep some percentage of local studs home.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm going to be legitimately worried if they manage to get Franklin this year.HillsboroDuck said:
SC will eventually make a great hire and be BACK. Their upside is the same it has always been.GreenRiverGatorz said:I think more needs to be said about USC's recent neutering in the recruiting game. Yes, their on-field product sucked this year, which absolutely contributed to their struggles. But it sure looks like this newer generation of LA kids are a lot more willing to leave the SoCal bubble than they have been in year's past. USC use to have about as much trouble as Texas did in just sleepwalking their way into landing local blue chip after blue chip. You always knew, regardless of who was doing the recruiting, that there was a large contingent of very talent recruits that just had no interest in leaving the greater LA area. That trend seems to be, or has already faded. USC may be losing their biggest inherent advantage that they've had for decades, and that opportunity can't be overlooked.
The big difference is they aren’t guaranteed to have top ten classes in the meantime like they always have been.
I mean besides WSU of course.
Washington State doesn't produce enough talent to get us over the hump. We have to recruit beyond that. It will be a lot harder with a resurgent USC.
Also, one bad recruiting class could easily be made up with their current numbers. Franklin could come in and be competing for the Pac12 title in 2020 with a still loaded roster.
Prayingdoog.gif that Helton hangs on for another year because of the administrative mess at USC or that they flop and hire some bad NFL retread or otherwise useless coach.
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Wait, what? Is that a legitimate rumor? Why would Franklin leave Penn State for USC?UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm going to be legitimately worried if they manage to get Franklin this year.HillsboroDuck said:
SC will eventually make a great hire and be BACK. Their upside is the same it has always been.GreenRiverGatorz said:I think more needs to be said about USC's recent neutering in the recruiting game. Yes, their on-field product sucked this year, which absolutely contributed to their struggles. But it sure looks like this newer generation of LA kids are a lot more willing to leave the SoCal bubble than they have been in year's past. USC use to have about as much trouble as Texas did in just sleepwalking their way into landing local blue chip after blue chip. You always knew, regardless of who was doing the recruiting, that there was a large contingent of very talent recruits that just had no interest in leaving the greater LA area. That trend seems to be, or has already faded. USC may be losing their biggest inherent advantage that they've had for decades, and that opportunity can't be overlooked.
The big difference is they aren’t guaranteed to have top ten classes in the meantime like they always have been.
We can argue ad nauseum about which is a better job and I would probably agree USC is by a small margin.
But Franklin is from Pennsylvania, played D2 college ball in Pennsylvania, and has spent only 2 of his 26 year coaching career west of Kansas. -
This.HillsboroDuck said:
SC will eventually make a great hire and be BACK. Their upside is the same it has always been.GreenRiverGatorz said:I think more needs to be said about USC's recent neutering in the recruiting game. Yes, their on-field product sucked this year, which absolutely contributed to their struggles. But it sure looks like this newer generation of LA kids are a lot more willing to leave the SoCal bubble than they have been in year's past. USC use to have about as much trouble as Texas did in just sleepwalking their way into landing local blue chip after blue chip. You always knew, regardless of who was doing the recruiting, that there was a large contingent of very talent recruits that just had no interest in leaving the greater LA area. That trend seems to be, or has already faded. USC may be losing their biggest inherent advantage that they've had for decades, and that opportunity can't be overlooked.
The big difference is they aren’t guaranteed to have top ten classes in the meantime like they always have been. The floor has dropped considerably.
22nd ranked class with only 7 Blue Chip and 18 Three Stars at a school not exactly known for developing their players.
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God you guys are shook. We need USC to be good. You're scared of James Franklin? What's he going to do? Recruit well?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Franklin would legitimately bite into our expanded recruiting footprint(Oregon, Utah, Hawaii, etc.) and immediately put SC back on the map. He's a rilly rill recruiter and not at all a bad developer or in-game coach.HillsboroDuck said:
Why is this? Even Ty managed to get Jack Locker and Kevario Middleton. Even the most inept coaching staffs at the worst programs are going to be able to keep some percentage of local studs home.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm going to be legitimately worried if they manage to get Franklin this year.HillsboroDuck said:
SC will eventually make a great hire and be BACK. Their upside is the same it has always been.GreenRiverGatorz said:I think more needs to be said about USC's recent neutering in the recruiting game. Yes, their on-field product sucked this year, which absolutely contributed to their struggles. But it sure looks like this newer generation of LA kids are a lot more willing to leave the SoCal bubble than they have been in year's past. USC use to have about as much trouble as Texas did in just sleepwalking their way into landing local blue chip after blue chip. You always knew, regardless of who was doing the recruiting, that there was a large contingent of very talent recruits that just had no interest in leaving the greater LA area. That trend seems to be, or has already faded. USC may be losing their biggest inherent advantage that they've had for decades, and that opportunity can't be overlooked.
The big difference is they aren’t guaranteed to have top ten classes in the meantime like they always have been.
I mean besides WSU of course.
Washington State doesn't produce enough talent to get us over the hump. We have to recruit beyond that. It will be a lot harder with a resurgent USC.
Also, one bad recruiting class could easily be made up with their current numbers. Franklin could come in and be competing for the Pac12 title in 2020 with a still loaded roster.
Prayingdoog.gif that Helton hangs on for another year because of the administrative mess at USC or that they flop and hire some bad NFL retread or otherwise useless coach.
They recruit well every fucking year.
You guys are fucking stuck in '05 with this shit. IN THE LAST 40 YEARS USC HAS NEVER BEEN GOOD EXCEPT FOR PC BEING THERE.
We got the classes we needed. If we do what we should in the 2020 class it is much better for us for USC to be good. -
No Puka paperwork. We?re going to get what we deserved for gloating.
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The last time I heard from James Frankin he was saying how it is up to him to make Penn State ELITE. An ELITE team. That was after blowing a nice lead against Ohio State. Then they lost 2 or 3 more games
Franklin has not won a B1G title or made the playoffs at a school with similar resources to USC who recruits well every year
He does not SUCK, that is way over used. The Lions were well prepared and well coached when they beat us? but he's not superman. Or Urban Meyer -
I like to point out the tims I'm wrongGrundleStiltzkin said:No Puka paperwork. We?re going to get what we deserved for gloating.
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Heard from several SC boosters(and one actual bigger booster) at this point that this is who they plan to pursue. Whether they can manage it *shrug. Their AD is a fucking mess so feel free to laugh at the idea right now.FremontTroll said:
Wait, what? Is that a legitimate rumor? Why would Franklin leave Penn State for USC?UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm going to be legitimately worried if they manage to get Franklin this year.HillsboroDuck said:
SC will eventually make a great hire and be BACK. Their upside is the same it has always been.GreenRiverGatorz said:I think more needs to be said about USC's recent neutering in the recruiting game. Yes, their on-field product sucked this year, which absolutely contributed to their struggles. But it sure looks like this newer generation of LA kids are a lot more willing to leave the SoCal bubble than they have been in year's past. USC use to have about as much trouble as Texas did in just sleepwalking their way into landing local blue chip after blue chip. You always knew, regardless of who was doing the recruiting, that there was a large contingent of very talent recruits that just had no interest in leaving the greater LA area. That trend seems to be, or has already faded. USC may be losing their biggest inherent advantage that they've had for decades, and that opportunity can't be overlooked.
The big difference is they aren’t guaranteed to have top ten classes in the meantime like they always have been.
We can argue ad nauseum about which is a better job and I would probably agree USC is by a small margin.
But Franklin is from Pennsylvania, played D2 college ball in Pennsylvania, and has spent only 2 of his 26 year coaching career west of Kansas.
As to the fear, it isn't like Pete couldn't beat him but I don't want him coming THIS year because we need 2020 recruiting to continue the trajectory and realistically he could bite into that. By 2021 it probably isn't going to matter who they get unless it's the next Saban, Dabo, Meyer, etc.
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Helton isn't going to make it to the end of the season let alone to 2020.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Heard from several SC boosters(and one actual bigger booster) at this point that this is who they plan to pursue. Whether they can manage it *shrug. Their AD is a fucking mess so feel free to laugh at the idea right now.FremontTroll said:
Wait, what? Is that a legitimate rumor? Why would Franklin leave Penn State for USC?UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm going to be legitimately worried if they manage to get Franklin this year.HillsboroDuck said:
SC will eventually make a great hire and be BACK. Their upside is the same it has always been.GreenRiverGatorz said:I think more needs to be said about USC's recent neutering in the recruiting game. Yes, their on-field product sucked this year, which absolutely contributed to their struggles. But it sure looks like this newer generation of LA kids are a lot more willing to leave the SoCal bubble than they have been in year's past. USC use to have about as much trouble as Texas did in just sleepwalking their way into landing local blue chip after blue chip. You always knew, regardless of who was doing the recruiting, that there was a large contingent of very talent recruits that just had no interest in leaving the greater LA area. That trend seems to be, or has already faded. USC may be losing their biggest inherent advantage that they've had for decades, and that opportunity can't be overlooked.
The big difference is they aren’t guaranteed to have top ten classes in the meantime like they always have been.
We can argue ad nauseum about which is a better job and I would probably agree USC is by a small margin.
But Franklin is from Pennsylvania, played D2 college ball in Pennsylvania, and has spent only 2 of his 26 year coaching career west of Kansas.
As to the fear, it isn't like Pete couldn't beat him but I don't want him coming THIS year because we need 2020 recruiting to continue the trajectory and realistically he could bite into that. By 2021 it probably isn't going to matter who they get unless it's the next Saban, Dabo, Meyer, etc.
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Ok, well they might want to pursue him but its a pipe dream IMO. Franklin isn't leaving Penn State.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Heard from several SC boosters(and one actual bigger booster) at this point that this is who they plan to pursue. Whether they can manage it *shrug. Their AD is a fucking mess so feel free to laugh at the idea right now.FremontTroll said:
Wait, what? Is that a legitimate rumor? Why would Franklin leave Penn State for USC?UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm going to be legitimately worried if they manage to get Franklin this year.HillsboroDuck said:
SC will eventually make a great hire and be BACK. Their upside is the same it has always been.GreenRiverGatorz said:I think more needs to be said about USC's recent neutering in the recruiting game. Yes, their on-field product sucked this year, which absolutely contributed to their struggles. But it sure looks like this newer generation of LA kids are a lot more willing to leave the SoCal bubble than they have been in year's past. USC use to have about as much trouble as Texas did in just sleepwalking their way into landing local blue chip after blue chip. You always knew, regardless of who was doing the recruiting, that there was a large contingent of very talent recruits that just had no interest in leaving the greater LA area. That trend seems to be, or has already faded. USC may be losing their biggest inherent advantage that they've had for decades, and that opportunity can't be overlooked.
The big difference is they aren’t guaranteed to have top ten classes in the meantime like they always have been.
We can argue ad nauseum about which is a better job and I would probably agree USC is by a small margin.
But Franklin is from Pennsylvania, played D2 college ball in Pennsylvania, and has spent only 2 of his 26 year coaching career west of Kansas.
As to the fear, it isn't like Pete couldn't beat him but I don't want him coming THIS year because we need 2020 recruiting to continue the trajectory and realistically he could bite into that. By 2021 it probably isn't going to matter who they get unless it's the next Saban, Dabo, Meyer, etc.
Why do you guys hate rooting for another year of Helton?
Also his salary is $5.65 million this year and increases to $7.25 million by 2022 (plus up to $1 mill/year in incentives.) For USC to offer a compelling raise and overcome any possible renegotiation with PSU they would have to offer $8 mill/yr at least.
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Come on you are smarter than that dnc, thankfully usc has as that is more incompetent than helton. He makes itHillsboroDuck said:
Helton isn't going to make it to the end of the season let alone to 2020.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Heard from several SC boosters(and one actual bigger booster) at this point that this is who they plan to pursue. Whether they can manage it *shrug. Their AD is a fucking mess so feel free to laugh at the idea right now.FremontTroll said:
Wait, what? Is that a legitimate rumor? Why would Franklin leave Penn State for USC?UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm going to be legitimately worried if they manage to get Franklin this year.HillsboroDuck said:
SC will eventually make a great hire and be BACK. Their upside is the same it has always been.GreenRiverGatorz said:I think more needs to be said about USC's recent neutering in the recruiting game. Yes, their on-field product sucked this year, which absolutely contributed to their struggles. But it sure looks like this newer generation of LA kids are a lot more willing to leave the SoCal bubble than they have been in year's past. USC use to have about as much trouble as Texas did in just sleepwalking their way into landing local blue chip after blue chip. You always knew, regardless of who was doing the recruiting, that there was a large contingent of very talent recruits that just had no interest in leaving the greater LA area. That trend seems to be, or has already faded. USC may be losing their biggest inherent advantage that they've had for decades, and that opportunity can't be overlooked.
The big difference is they aren’t guaranteed to have top ten classes in the meantime like they always have been.
We can argue ad nauseum about which is a better job and I would probably agree USC is by a small margin.
But Franklin is from Pennsylvania, played D2 college ball in Pennsylvania, and has spent only 2 of his 26 year coaching career west of Kansas.
As to the fear, it isn't like Pete couldn't beat him but I don't want him coming THIS year because we need 2020 recruiting to continue the trajectory and realistically he could bite into that. By 2021 it probably isn't going to matter who they get unless it's the next Saban, Dabo, Meyer, etc.
Why do you guys hate rooting for another year of Helton? -
I’m the one who guaranteed he wasn’t getting fired after 2018. I’m also guaranteeing he’ll be fired after 2019.WeakarmCobra said:
Come on you are smarter than that dnc, thankfully usc has as that is more incompetent than helton. He makes itHillsboroDuck said:
Helton isn't going to make it to the end of the season let alone to 2020.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Heard from several SC boosters(and one actual bigger booster) at this point that this is who they plan to pursue. Whether they can manage it *shrug. Their AD is a fucking mess so feel free to laugh at the idea right now.FremontTroll said:
Wait, what? Is that a legitimate rumor? Why would Franklin leave Penn State for USC?UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm going to be legitimately worried if they manage to get Franklin this year.HillsboroDuck said:
SC will eventually make a great hire and be BACK. Their upside is the same it has always been.GreenRiverGatorz said:I think more needs to be said about USC's recent neutering in the recruiting game. Yes, their on-field product sucked this year, which absolutely contributed to their struggles. But it sure looks like this newer generation of LA kids are a lot more willing to leave the SoCal bubble than they have been in year's past. USC use to have about as much trouble as Texas did in just sleepwalking their way into landing local blue chip after blue chip. You always knew, regardless of who was doing the recruiting, that there was a large contingent of very talent recruits that just had no interest in leaving the greater LA area. That trend seems to be, or has already faded. USC may be losing their biggest inherent advantage that they've had for decades, and that opportunity can't be overlooked.
The big difference is they aren’t guaranteed to have top ten classes in the meantime like they always have been.
We can argue ad nauseum about which is a better job and I would probably agree USC is by a small margin.
But Franklin is from Pennsylvania, played D2 college ball in Pennsylvania, and has spent only 2 of his 26 year coaching career west of Kansas.
As to the fear, it isn't like Pete couldn't beat him but I don't want him coming THIS year because we need 2020 recruiting to continue the trajectory and realistically he could bite into that. By 2021 it probably isn't going to matter who they get unless it's the next Saban, Dabo, Meyer, etc.
Why do you guys hate rooting for another year of Helton?
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Its textbook that he should have been fired and everyone knows itHillsboroDuck said:
I’m the one who guaranteed he wasn’t getting fired after 2018. I’m also guaranteeing he’ll be fired after 2019.WeakarmCobra said:
Come on you are smarter than that dnc, thankfully usc has as that is more incompetent than helton. He makes itHillsboroDuck said:
Helton isn't going to make it to the end of the season let alone to 2020.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Heard from several SC boosters(and one actual bigger booster) at this point that this is who they plan to pursue. Whether they can manage it *shrug. Their AD is a fucking mess so feel free to laugh at the idea right now.FremontTroll said:
Wait, what? Is that a legitimate rumor? Why would Franklin leave Penn State for USC?UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm going to be legitimately worried if they manage to get Franklin this year.HillsboroDuck said:
SC will eventually make a great hire and be BACK. Their upside is the same it has always been.GreenRiverGatorz said:I think more needs to be said about USC's recent neutering in the recruiting game. Yes, their on-field product sucked this year, which absolutely contributed to their struggles. But it sure looks like this newer generation of LA kids are a lot more willing to leave the SoCal bubble than they have been in year's past. USC use to have about as much trouble as Texas did in just sleepwalking their way into landing local blue chip after blue chip. You always knew, regardless of who was doing the recruiting, that there was a large contingent of very talent recruits that just had no interest in leaving the greater LA area. That trend seems to be, or has already faded. USC may be losing their biggest inherent advantage that they've had for decades, and that opportunity can't be overlooked.
The big difference is they aren’t guaranteed to have top ten classes in the meantime like they always have been.
We can argue ad nauseum about which is a better job and I would probably agree USC is by a small margin.
But Franklin is from Pennsylvania, played D2 college ball in Pennsylvania, and has spent only 2 of his 26 year coaching career west of Kansas.
As to the fear, it isn't like Pete couldn't beat him but I don't want him coming THIS year because we need 2020 recruiting to continue the trajectory and realistically he could bite into that. By 2021 it probably isn't going to matter who they get unless it's the next Saban, Dabo, Meyer, etc.
Why do you guys hate rooting for another year of Helton?
Book it.
2007 Hawaii all over again
2019 is going to be brutal for USC -
Yep.RaceBannon said:
Its textbook that he should have been fired and everyone knows itHillsboroDuck said:
I’m the one who guaranteed he wasn’t getting fired after 2018. I’m also guaranteeing he’ll be fired after 2019.WeakarmCobra said:
Come on you are smarter than that dnc, thankfully usc has as that is more incompetent than helton. He makes itHillsboroDuck said:
Helton isn't going to make it to the end of the season let alone to 2020.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Heard from several SC boosters(and one actual bigger booster) at this point that this is who they plan to pursue. Whether they can manage it *shrug. Their AD is a fucking mess so feel free to laugh at the idea right now.FremontTroll said:
Wait, what? Is that a legitimate rumor? Why would Franklin leave Penn State for USC?UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm going to be legitimately worried if they manage to get Franklin this year.HillsboroDuck said:
SC will eventually make a great hire and be BACK. Their upside is the same it has always been.GreenRiverGatorz said:I think more needs to be said about USC's recent neutering in the recruiting game. Yes, their on-field product sucked this year, which absolutely contributed to their struggles. But it sure looks like this newer generation of LA kids are a lot more willing to leave the SoCal bubble than they have been in year's past. USC use to have about as much trouble as Texas did in just sleepwalking their way into landing local blue chip after blue chip. You always knew, regardless of who was doing the recruiting, that there was a large contingent of very talent recruits that just had no interest in leaving the greater LA area. That trend seems to be, or has already faded. USC may be losing their biggest inherent advantage that they've had for decades, and that opportunity can't be overlooked.
The big difference is they aren’t guaranteed to have top ten classes in the meantime like they always have been.
We can argue ad nauseum about which is a better job and I would probably agree USC is by a small margin.
But Franklin is from Pennsylvania, played D2 college ball in Pennsylvania, and has spent only 2 of his 26 year coaching career west of Kansas.
As to the fear, it isn't like Pete couldn't beat him but I don't want him coming THIS year because we need 2020 recruiting to continue the trajectory and realistically he could bite into that. By 2021 it probably isn't going to matter who they get unless it's the next Saban, Dabo, Meyer, etc.
Why do you guys hate rooting for another year of Helton?
Book it.
2007 Hawaii all over again
2019 is going to be brutal for USC
Country Legend fires hisself this year. Only suspense is if Swann will let him corch our the season Pool Boy sTyLe. -
I’m hearing Sean mcveay had some high school friends he played Madden with that Swann is looking at.
Which is a total shame, Helton is the greatest coach of our life tim. His coaching greatness is only overshadowed by the greatness of his character. -
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