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The lie about illegals committing less crime than American citizens

SFGbob
SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
Anyone who has debated the illegal immigration issue for any period of time has heard the response from liberals that illegals are actually very law-abiding and commit crime at a far lower rate than citizens and that anyone who brings up the issue of Illegals committing crime is just a racist demagogue trying to scare the American public.

Nearly 3 percent of illegal immigrants in Arizona end up in state prison or jail during the course of a year — four times the rate of U.S. citizens and legal residents, according to a study that uses federal reimbursements for prisons and jails to try to calculate one of the most important yet elusive statistics in the immigration debate.

In New Jersey, illegal immigrants are incarcerated five times more often, and rates on the West Coast are triple that of legal residents and citizens, according to the study by the Federation for American Immigration Reform.


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/feb/5/study-finds-high-rates-of-prison-jail-for-illegals/
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,811 Standard Supporter
    Liberal myths are spread easily when liberals own the media.
  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441
    :D:D washington times
  • Blu82
    Blu82 Member Posts: 1,673
    That's just your racism.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited February 2019

    :D:D washington times

    Brilliant rebuttal. Totally destroyed their claims.

    As I recall both the WaPo and the NY Times swallowed like Hondo trying to make the rent money the MAGA hat wearing kids bullshit, and the fake hate crime about the actor in Chicago.

    I'm not sure what source you think is the gold standard.
  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441
    SFGbob said:

    :D:D washington times

    Brilliant rebuttal. Totally destroyed their claims.

    As I recall both the WaPo and the NY Times swallowed like Hondo trying to make the rent money the MAGA hat wearing kids bullshit, and the fake hate crime about the actor in Chicago.

    I'm not sure what source you think is the gold standard.
    The Washington Times is barely better than a tabloid, smart guy. I guess if the universe you inhabit includes chain emails about how death panels are coming for grandma then it appears reasonable.

    And I don't know who this Hondo guy is, but you useless old people think about and talk about him a lot.
  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441
    This board is like the same 4 deplorables all repeating the same right wing memes to each other all day. Don't you guys have jobs? Or families? Or other lonely old people at the bar to talk to?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    :D:D washington times

    Brilliant rebuttal. Totally destroyed their claims.

    As I recall both the WaPo and the NY Times swallowed like Hondo trying to make the rent money the MAGA hat wearing kids bullshit, and the fake hate crime about the actor in Chicago.

    I'm not sure what source you think is the gold standard.
    Got a link?
  • Blu82
    Blu82 Member Posts: 1,673

    This board is like the same 4 deplorables all repeating the same right wing memes to each other all day. Don't you guys have jobs? Or families? Or other lonely old people at the bar to talk to?

    Junior, don't you have some chores to do?



  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    This board is like the same 4 deplorables all repeating the same right wing memes to each other all day. Don't you guys have jobs? Or families? Or other lonely old people at the bar to talk to?

    What the fuck are you adding here?
    A breath of fresh air. A dose of reality.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,929
    FAIR has routinely produced crap “studies”. Perhaps its white supremacist members approve. The rest of us should remain skeptical.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    HHusky said:

    FAIR has routinely produced crap “studies”. Perhaps its white supremacist members approve. The rest of us should remain skeptical.

    The problem is, the stats they use includes being in jail or just being illegal. Remember, just being here is a crime, so you have to take that out of the equation. Which they don't do to my knowledge, in what the examiner is quoting.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    FAIR has routinely produced crap “studies”. Perhaps its white supremacist members approve. The rest of us should remain skeptical.

    O'Keefed, you're probably not the best person to be determining what is and what isn't a crap study.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,811 Standard Supporter

    This board is like the same 4 deplorables all repeating the same right wing memes to each other all day. Don't you guys have jobs? Or families? Or other lonely old people at the bar to talk to?

    I'm retired and I have all day to fuck with little socialist turds. I worked hard and an enjoying the fruits of my labor. You basement dwelling wanna be Bernies should put down the Bagel Bites and get to work!
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Sledog said:

    This board is like the same 4 deplorables all repeating the same right wing memes to each other all day. Don't you guys have jobs? Or families? Or other lonely old people at the bar to talk to?

    I'm retired and I have all day to fuck with little socialist turds. I worked hard and an enjoying the fruits of my labor. You basement dwelling wanna be Bernies should put down the Bagel Bites and get to work!
    You’re not certifiably retarded like everyone says. Not at all. Make sure you keep telling yourself that.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,811 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    This board is like the same 4 deplorables all repeating the same right wing memes to each other all day. Don't you guys have jobs? Or families? Or other lonely old people at the bar to talk to?

    I'm retired and I have all day to fuck with little socialist turds. I worked hard and an enjoying the fruits of my labor. You basement dwelling wanna be Bernies should put down the Bagel Bites and get to work!
    You’re not certifiably retarded like everyone says. Not at all. Make sure you keep telling yourself that.
    It's bunyon salve time basement boy!
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Sledog said:

    This board is like the same 4 deplorables all repeating the same right wing memes to each other all day. Don't you guys have jobs? Or families? Or other lonely old people at the bar to talk to?

    I'm retired and I have all day to fuck with little socialist turds. I worked hard and an enjoying the fruits of my labor. You basement dwelling wanna be Bernies should put down the Bagel Bites and get to work!
    What a sad motherfucker you are, retired guy.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,929
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    FAIR has routinely produced crap “studies”. Perhaps its white supremacist members approve. The rest of us should remain skeptical.

    O'Keefed, you're probably not the best person to be determining what is and what isn't a crap study.
    Well, if you're a Steve King fan, FAIR is about your speed.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,811 Standard Supporter
    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    This board is like the same 4 deplorables all repeating the same right wing memes to each other all day. Don't you guys have jobs? Or families? Or other lonely old people at the bar to talk to?

    I'm retired and I have all day to fuck with little socialist turds. I worked hard and an enjoying the fruits of my labor. You basement dwelling wanna be Bernies should put down the Bagel Bites and get to work!
    What a sad motherfucker you are, retired guy.
    Yeah it's sad. I do what I want. Go where I want. Travel. Enjoy my hobbies. Kick retards in the Tug.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,065
    Sledog said:

    This board is like the same 4 deplorables all repeating the same right wing memes to each other all day. Don't you guys have jobs? Or families? Or other lonely old people at the bar to talk to?

    I'm retired and I have all day to fuck with little socialist turds. I worked hard and an enjoying the fruits of my labor. You basement dwelling wanna be Bernies should put down the Bagel Bites and get to work!
    weren't you a cop?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,065
    Sledog said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    This board is like the same 4 deplorables all repeating the same right wing memes to each other all day. Don't you guys have jobs? Or families? Or other lonely old people at the bar to talk to?

    I'm retired and I have all day to fuck with little socialist turds. I worked hard and an enjoying the fruits of my labor. You basement dwelling wanna be Bernies should put down the Bagel Bites and get to work!
    What a sad motherfucker you are, retired guy.
    Yeah it's sad. I do what I want. Go where I want. Travel. Enjoy my hobbies. Kick retards in the Tug.
    brother, for all of your talents, and I've acknowledged that you have some, intellectual debate ain't one of them. I can't recall you ever really doing that here. you stick with a line like nobody I've ever encountered; perhaps you are confusing exhaustion with admission of defeat.

    they are different.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,065
    The whole point of FAIR, it's very existence, is to stem legal immigration to some optimal level. I'm sure they're nice people, but this is like Earth First publishing a study on sustainability practices in commercial forestry.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,811 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    This board is like the same 4 deplorables all repeating the same right wing memes to each other all day. Don't you guys have jobs? Or families? Or other lonely old people at the bar to talk to?

    I'm retired and I have all day to fuck with little socialist turds. I worked hard and an enjoying the fruits of my labor. You basement dwelling wanna be Bernies should put down the Bagel Bites and get to work!
    weren't you a cop?
    Weren't you an attorney?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,065
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    This board is like the same 4 deplorables all repeating the same right wing memes to each other all day. Don't you guys have jobs? Or families? Or other lonely old people at the bar to talk to?

    I'm retired and I have all day to fuck with little socialist turds. I worked hard and an enjoying the fruits of my labor. You basement dwelling wanna be Bernies should put down the Bagel Bites and get to work!
    weren't you a cop?
    Weren't you an attorney?
    pretend. and I'm not retired. we've been over this.

    what's with the struggle in answering a straight question. you always do this. what you hidin' there boy?
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited February 2019

    SFGbob said:

    :D:D washington times

    Brilliant rebuttal. Totally destroyed their claims.

    As I recall both the WaPo and the NY Times swallowed like Hondo trying to make the rent money the MAGA hat wearing kids bullshit, and the fake hate crime about the actor in Chicago.

    I'm not sure what source you think is the gold standard.
    The Washington Times is barely better than a tabloid, smart guy. I guess if the universe you inhabit includes chain emails about how death panels are coming for grandma then it appears reasonable.

    And I don't know who this Hondo guy is, but you useless old people think about and talk about him a lot.
    The only reliable source is the HuffPost...
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,030 Founders Club
    We're on page 2 and still no refutation of the facts of the study

    There is one in Texas that is even more damming
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,811 Standard Supporter

    We're on page 2 and still no refutation of the facts of the study

    There is one in Texas that is even more damming

    Did it look like this?

    https://www.dps.texas.gov/administration/crime_records/pages/txCriminalAlienStatistics.htm
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    We're on page 2 and still no refutation of the facts of the study

    There is one in Texas that is even more damming

    Did it look like this?

    https://www.dps.texas.gov/administration/crime_records/pages/txCriminalAlienStatistics.htm
    From your link.

    These figures do not attempt to allege that foreign nationals in the country illegally commit more crimes than other groups.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,811 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    We're on page 2 and still no refutation of the facts of the study

    There is one in Texas that is even more damming

    Did it look like this?

    https://www.dps.texas.gov/administration/crime_records/pages/txCriminalAlienStatistics.htm
    From your link.

    These figures do not attempt to allege that foreign nationals in the country illegally commit more crimes than other groups.
    Did you look at any of the numbers? I know they're confusing past 10 and you need to be naked to get to 20.5 but try harder.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    We're on page 2 and still no refutation of the facts of the study

    There is one in Texas that is even more damming

    Did it look like this?

    https://www.dps.texas.gov/administration/crime_records/pages/txCriminalAlienStatistics.htm
    From your link.

    These figures do not attempt to allege that foreign nationals in the country illegally commit more crimes than other groups.
    Do you understand the purpose of the disclaimer dumbfuck? Mr. Reading Comprehension doesn't comprehend.