Rumors of UCLA's rise
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Kelley lost the Philly team when the neggaduck incident happened
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Systems that require 100% buy in, willingness to sacrifice and work like dogs, like what Kelly ran (or CCP for that matter), aren't ever going to be viable again. Not for programs capable of big time recruiting. Too many good players are spoiled bitches with their eye on nothing but $$.WoolleyDoog said:
Big part of Kelly was right place, right time and right shit. Agree that part of it working was players had to really buy into a grueling operation and Eugene and a program with something to prove was perfect for that combined with the Nike recruiting prowess.Southerndawg said:
System coach. He failed spectacularly in the NFL and has been mediocre+ at UCLA. He may ultimately pan out, I do think UCLA can be good this year, but I don't get the reverence for him on this site, It doesn't really exist elsewhere for good reason.chuck said:Look to be false as far as I can see so far. Kelly isn't good anymore. This was known, but people seem to want to predict big things for him and the brunes.
Enough talent to be a bowl team. They aren't a threat to win the south though.
People forget things went kind of well for Chip the first two years in Philadelphia but I think it's true that eventually NFL players weren't that into buying 100% into his grueling system when they could get paid and win just as much somewhere else.
A big What If is if the NCAA doesn't kick him out of college football. I feel like he's smart enough to know his shit would never work long-term in the NFL and he may have just stayed at Oregon forever. -
So did Saban, Meyer and Superior, among others. That fact alone doesn't bury him IMO.Southerndawg said:
System coach. He failed spectacularly in the NFL and has been mediocre+ at UCLA. He may ultimately pan out, I do think UCLA can be good this year, but I don't get the reverence for him on this site, It doesn't really exist elsewhere for good reason.chuck said:Look to be false as far as I can see so far. Kelly isn't good anymore. This was known, but people seem to want to predict big things for him and the brunes.
Enough talent to be a bowl team. They aren't a threat to win the south though.
I think it's (a) he's in the wrong place for his style of control or (b) he's in the right place to barely GAF and he'll be allowed to continue to do so for a bit, and when he runs out of leash, he will not care because he already has more money than he'll ever need. @coronabruin
I'm not saying he could go back to Oregon and do it again, because I subscribe to the lightning in a bottle theory. Few can take the magic with them to the next stop. That's what makes Urban Meyer such a fucking legend. -
It's pretty straight forward. He doesn't like the grind and recruiting. He was hungry then he made it and is like fuck this
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That's true.gif.Pitchfork51 said:It's pretty straight forward. He doesn't like the grind and recruiting. He was hungry then he made it and is like fuck this
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You talk a lot of shit for a fan of a mid major.
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Fight on!creepycoug said:One theory I don’t really believe is the Saban USC theory. Oregon Kelly was like the army from what I’ve been told and the practices were scripted to the second. Ducks were always super fit and every player knew exactly their role. He was able to do it at Oregon where he ruled a people in love with football.
Pro players can tell their HC to fuck off, so NFL was never going to happen. See Saban at Miami. Garbage.
So maybe UCLA is not the right place for a guy like that unless that guy just wants a soft job coaching a soft program for soft and disinterested fans. SC is the football team in LA. Not Bruin.
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Chimp is extremely innovative. I don't think he'll be Terry Donahue, but he'll win 7-9 gaymes there most years.
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You think I think about these things? Jesus man.creepycoug said:It took you two days to come up with that?
J not what she used to be. Soft.
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Same coronabruin that ran your sorry ass last year. Dont think i forgot puto.
