Interview with Oregon Ducks QB Reggie Ogburn (1979-80)


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1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
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I was there and all of the Husky fans barking at us before the game were very quiet on the walk to the porking lot. Woof, Woof, meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.RaceBannon said:1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
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Meth is a hulluva drug.46XiJCAB said:
I was there and all of the Husky fans barking at us before the game were very quiet on the walk to the porking lot. Woof, Woof, meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.RaceBannon said:1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
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Good grief you really are retarded.haie said:
Meth is a hulluva drug.46XiJCAB said:
I was there and all of the Husky fans barking at us before the game were very quiet on the walk to the porking lot. Woof, Woof, meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.RaceBannon said:1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
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What he said was true. The Huskies had a safety named Ken Gardener (I think I spelled it right). At halftime it was a 10-7 game and the teams were walking into the tunnel. Gardener turned to a couple of Ducks and said "Hey you guys are hanging in there pretty good." The Ducks were all pissed off about that comment in the locker room. When the game was over, Oregon had won 34-10 in Husky Stadium.haie said:
Meth is a hulluva drug.46XiJCAB said:
I was there and all of the Husky fans barking at us before the game were very quiet on the walk to the porking lot. Woof, Woof, meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.RaceBannon said:1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
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Was Gardener meowwing at the end though?DerekJohnson said:
What he said was true. The Huskies had a safety named Ken Gardener (I think I spelled it right). At halftime it was a 10-7 game and the teams were walking into the tunnel. Gardener turned to a couple of Ducks and said "Hey you guys are hanging in there pretty good." The Ducks were all pissed off about that comment in the locker room. When the game was over, Oregon had won 34-10 in Husky Stadium.haie said:
Meth is a hulluva drug.46XiJCAB said:
I was there and all of the Husky fans barking at us before the game were very quiet on the walk to the porking lot. Woof, Woof, meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.RaceBannon said:1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
Sounds like 46X was quacking pretty hard on the drive back to Lane. -
Grow the fuck up boy. And stop being a GD drunk too. You boy deserve better.haie said:
Was Gardener meowwing at the end though?DerekJohnson said:
What he said was true. The Huskies had a safety named Ken Gardener (I think I spelled it right). At halftime it was a 10-7 game and the teams were walking into the tunnel. Gardener turned to a couple of Ducks and said "Hey you guys are hanging in there pretty good." The Ducks were all pissed off about that comment in the locker room. When the game was over, Oregon had won 34-10 in Husky Stadium.haie said:
Meth is a hulluva drug.46XiJCAB said:
I was there and all of the Husky fans barking at us before the game were very quiet on the walk to the porking lot. Woof, Woof, meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.RaceBannon said:1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
Sounds like 46X was quacking pretty hard on the drive back to Lane.
I was there with a group of my college buddies. Husky fan asked us at the ticket window why we wasted our time driving up. Guess he figured it out later. CB Steve Brown had a day against Flick. Brooks threw up on the sidelines. Ogburn was Ogburn. The drive back to Lane was awesome.DerekJohnson said:
What he said was true. The Huskies had a safety named Ken Gardener (I think I spelled it right). At halftime it was a 10-7 game and the teams were walking into the tunnel. Gardener turned to a couple of Ducks and said "Hey you guys are hanging in there pretty good." The Ducks were all pissed off about that comment in the locker room. When the game was over, Oregon had won 34-10 in Husky Stadium.haie said:
Meth is a hulluva drug.46XiJCAB said:
I was there and all of the Husky fans barking at us before the game were very quiet on the walk to the porking lot. Woof, Woof, meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.RaceBannon said:1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
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Taking my boys up to our cabin today. Thanks for inquiring.46XiJCAB said:
Grow the fuck up boy. And stop being a GD drunk too. You boy deserve better.haie said:
Was Gardener meowwing at the end though?DerekJohnson said:
What he said was true. The Huskies had a safety named Ken Gardener (I think I spelled it right). At halftime it was a 10-7 game and the teams were walking into the tunnel. Gardener turned to a couple of Ducks and said "Hey you guys are hanging in there pretty good." The Ducks were all pissed off about that comment in the locker room. When the game was over, Oregon had won 34-10 in Husky Stadium.haie said:
Meth is a hulluva drug.46XiJCAB said:
I was there and all of the Husky fans barking at us before the game were very quiet on the walk to the porking lot. Woof, Woof, meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.RaceBannon said:1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
Sounds like 46X was quacking pretty hard on the drive back to Lane.
I was there with a group of my college buddies. Husky fan asked us at the ticket window why we wasted our time driving up. Guess he figured it out later. CB Steve Brown had a day against Flick. Brooks threw up on the sidelines. Ogburn was Ogburn. The drive back to Lane was awesome.DerekJohnson said:
What he said was true. The Huskies had a safety named Ken Gardener (I think I spelled it right). At halftime it was a 10-7 game and the teams were walking into the tunnel. Gardener turned to a couple of Ducks and said "Hey you guys are hanging in there pretty good." The Ducks were all pissed off about that comment in the locker room. When the game was over, Oregon had won 34-10 in Husky Stadium.haie said:
Meth is a hulluva drug.46XiJCAB said:
I was there and all of the Husky fans barking at us before the game were very quiet on the walk to the porking lot. Woof, Woof, meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.RaceBannon said:1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
8.5k posts and you've been here like a year. Jesus fucking Christ. Get a job. -
Sure you are.haie said:
Taking my boys up to our cabin today. Thanks for inquiring.46XiJCAB said:
Grow the fuck up boy. And stop being a GD drunk too. You boy deserve better.haie said:
Was Gardener meowwing at the end though?DerekJohnson said:
What he said was true. The Huskies had a safety named Ken Gardener (I think I spelled it right). At halftime it was a 10-7 game and the teams were walking into the tunnel. Gardener turned to a couple of Ducks and said "Hey you guys are hanging in there pretty good." The Ducks were all pissed off about that comment in the locker room. When the game was over, Oregon had won 34-10 in Husky Stadium.haie said:
Meth is a hulluva drug.46XiJCAB said:
I was there and all of the Husky fans barking at us before the game were very quiet on the walk to the porking lot. Woof, Woof, meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.RaceBannon said:1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
Sounds like 46X was quacking pretty hard on the drive back to Lane.
I was there with a group of my college buddies. Husky fan asked us at the ticket window why we wasted our time driving up. Guess he figured it out later. CB Steve Brown had a day against Flick. Brooks threw up on the sidelines. Ogburn was Ogburn. The drive back to Lane was awesome.DerekJohnson said:
What he said was true. The Huskies had a safety named Ken Gardener (I think I spelled it right). At halftime it was a 10-7 game and the teams were walking into the tunnel. Gardener turned to a couple of Ducks and said "Hey you guys are hanging in there pretty good." The Ducks were all pissed off about that comment in the locker room. When the game was over, Oregon had won 34-10 in Husky Stadium.haie said:
Meth is a hulluva drug.46XiJCAB said:
I was there and all of the Husky fans barking at us before the game were very quiet on the walk to the porking lot. Woof, Woof, meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.RaceBannon said:1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
8.5k posts and you've been here like a year. Jesus fucking Christ. Get a job.
You’re just dying to know what I do.
5* QB Dante Moore just committed to Oregon.
Lol....
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I already know what you do. Jack shit.46XiJCAB said:
Sure you are.haie said:
Taking my boys up to our cabin today. Thanks for inquiring.46XiJCAB said:
Grow the fuck up boy. And stop being a GD drunk too. You boy deserve better.haie said:
Was Gardener meowwing at the end though?DerekJohnson said:
What he said was true. The Huskies had a safety named Ken Gardener (I think I spelled it right). At halftime it was a 10-7 game and the teams were walking into the tunnel. Gardener turned to a couple of Ducks and said "Hey you guys are hanging in there pretty good." The Ducks were all pissed off about that comment in the locker room. When the game was over, Oregon had won 34-10 in Husky Stadium.haie said:
Meth is a hulluva drug.46XiJCAB said:
I was there and all of the Husky fans barking at us before the game were very quiet on the walk to the porking lot. Woof, Woof, meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.RaceBannon said:1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
Sounds like 46X was quacking pretty hard on the drive back to Lane.
I was there with a group of my college buddies. Husky fan asked us at the ticket window why we wasted our time driving up. Guess he figured it out later. CB Steve Brown had a day against Flick. Brooks threw up on the sidelines. Ogburn was Ogburn. The drive back to Lane was awesome.DerekJohnson said:
What he said was true. The Huskies had a safety named Ken Gardener (I think I spelled it right). At halftime it was a 10-7 game and the teams were walking into the tunnel. Gardener turned to a couple of Ducks and said "Hey you guys are hanging in there pretty good." The Ducks were all pissed off about that comment in the locker room. When the game was over, Oregon had won 34-10 in Husky Stadium.haie said:
Meth is a hulluva drug.46XiJCAB said:
I was there and all of the Husky fans barking at us before the game were very quiet on the walk to the porking lot. Woof, Woof, meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.RaceBannon said:1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
8.5k posts and you've been here like a year. Jesus fucking Christ. Get a job.
You’re just dying to know what I do.
5* QB Dante Moore just committed to Oregon.
Lol....
Moore sucks. Watch the film. -
haie said:
I already know what you do. Jack shit.46XiJCAB said:
Sure you are.haie said:
Taking my boys up to our cabin today. Thanks for inquiring.46XiJCAB said:
Grow the fuck up boy. And stop being a GD drunk too. You boy deserve better.haie said:
Was Gardener meowwing at the end though?DerekJohnson said:
What he said was true. The Huskies had a safety named Ken Gardener (I think I spelled it right). At halftime it was a 10-7 game and the teams were walking into the tunnel. Gardener turned to a couple of Ducks and said "Hey you guys are hanging in there pretty good." The Ducks were all pissed off about that comment in the locker room. When the game was over, Oregon had won 34-10 in Husky Stadium.haie said:
Meth is a hulluva drug.46XiJCAB said:
I was there and all of the Husky fans barking at us before the game were very quiet on the walk to the porking lot. Woof, Woof, meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.RaceBannon said:1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
Sounds like 46X was quacking pretty hard on the drive back to Lane.
I was there with a group of my college buddies. Husky fan asked us at the ticket window why we wasted our time driving up. Guess he figured it out later. CB Steve Brown had a day against Flick. Brooks threw up on the sidelines. Ogburn was Ogburn. The drive back to Lane was awesome.DerekJohnson said:
What he said was true. The Huskies had a safety named Ken Gardener (I think I spelled it right). At halftime it was a 10-7 game and the teams were walking into the tunnel. Gardener turned to a couple of Ducks and said "Hey you guys are hanging in there pretty good." The Ducks were all pissed off about that comment in the locker room. When the game was over, Oregon had won 34-10 in Husky Stadium.haie said:
Meth is a hulluva drug.46XiJCAB said:
I was there and all of the Husky fans barking at us before the game were very quiet on the walk to the porking lot. Woof, Woof, meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.RaceBannon said:1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
8.5k posts and you've been here like a year. Jesus fucking Christ. Get a job.
You’re just dying to know what I do.
5* QB Dante Moore just committed to Oregon.
Lol....
Moore sucks. Watch the film.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joTbw7GQoq8
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He’s terrible and he’s not even playing against S. Dakota level talent.greenblood said:haie said:
I already know what you do. Jack shit.46XiJCAB said:
Sure you are.haie said:
Taking my boys up to our cabin today. Thanks for inquiring.46XiJCAB said:
Grow the fuck up boy. And stop being a GD drunk too. You boy deserve better.haie said:
Was Gardener meowwing at the end though?DerekJohnson said:
What he said was true. The Huskies had a safety named Ken Gardener (I think I spelled it right). At halftime it was a 10-7 game and the teams were walking into the tunnel. Gardener turned to a couple of Ducks and said "Hey you guys are hanging in there pretty good." The Ducks were all pissed off about that comment in the locker room. When the game was over, Oregon had won 34-10 in Husky Stadium.haie said:
Meth is a hulluva drug.46XiJCAB said:
I was there and all of the Husky fans barking at us before the game were very quiet on the walk to the porking lot. Woof, Woof, meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.RaceBannon said:1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
Sounds like 46X was quacking pretty hard on the drive back to Lane.
I was there with a group of my college buddies. Husky fan asked us at the ticket window why we wasted our time driving up. Guess he figured it out later. CB Steve Brown had a day against Flick. Brooks threw up on the sidelines. Ogburn was Ogburn. The drive back to Lane was awesome.DerekJohnson said:
What he said was true. The Huskies had a safety named Ken Gardener (I think I spelled it right). At halftime it was a 10-7 game and the teams were walking into the tunnel. Gardener turned to a couple of Ducks and said "Hey you guys are hanging in there pretty good." The Ducks were all pissed off about that comment in the locker room. When the game was over, Oregon had won 34-10 in Husky Stadium.haie said:
Meth is a hulluva drug.46XiJCAB said:
I was there and all of the Husky fans barking at us before the game were very quiet on the walk to the porking lot. Woof, Woof, meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.RaceBannon said:1980 the ducks hung 34 on the Pac 10 champ huskies at Montlake
8.5k posts and you've been here like a year. Jesus fucking Christ. Get a job.
You’re just dying to know what I do.
5* QB Dante Moore just committed to Oregon.
Lol....
Moore sucks. Watch the film.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joTbw7GQoq8
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He’s sucks and I bet he can’t dunk a basketball like Colson Yankoff 2.0 either.greenblood said: -
You dumb fucktards understand that this validates what doogs have been saying, that your current QB room is shit right?
I thought manning and that other paper tiger 5 star were going to be the next big thing? You're duct taping with Nix and then telling this kid he's starting day one.
Your best QB's in school history was 3 star that Helfrich out scouted people on, and a local kid whose parents wanted to go to UW. -
PS this kid sucks.
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Haie’s a millennial. College football didn’t begin until he was born.
“. . . a local kid whose parents wanted to go to UW.” What kept them from going to UW.haie said:You dumb fucktards understand that this validates what doogs have been saying, that your current QB room is shit right?
I thought manning and that other paper tiger 5 star were going to be the next big thing? You're duct taping with Nix and then telling this kid he's starting day one.
Your best QB's in school history was 3 star that Helfrich out scouted people on, and a local kid whose parents wanted to go to UW.
STFU Doog. You know zero about Justin Herbert’s high school years or his recruitment.
Helfrich “out scouted” people on . . . Herbert was a legacy. Grew up in Eugene and attended games his entire life.
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Who’s Haie?trublue said:Haie’s a millennial. College football didn’t begin until he was born.
“. . . a local kid whose parents wanted to go to UW.” What kept them from going to UW.haie said:You dumb fucktards understand that this validates what doogs have been saying, that your current QB room is shit right?
I thought manning and that other paper tiger 5 star were going to be the next big thing? You're duct taping with Nix and then telling this kid he's starting day one.
Your best QB's in school history was 3 star that Helfrich out scouted people on, and a local kid whose parents wanted to go to UW.
STFU Doog. You know zero about Justin Herbert’s high school years or his recruitment.
Helfrich “out scouted” people on . . . Herbert was a legacy. Grew up in Eugene and attended games his entire life. -
Pete was stupid and didn't go after him hard. He might not have even offered him.trublue said:Haie’s a millennial. College football didn’t begin until he was born.
“. . . a local kid whose parents wanted to go to UW.” What kept them from going to UW.haie said:You dumb fucktards understand that this validates what doogs have been saying, that your current QB room is shit right?
I thought manning and that other paper tiger 5 star were going to be the next big thing? You're duct taping with Nix and then telling this kid he's starting day one.
Your best QB's in school history was 3 star that Helfrich out scouted people on, and a local kid whose parents wanted to go to UW.
STFU Doog. You know zero about Justin Herbert’s high school years or his recruitment.
Helfrich “out scouted” people on . . . Herbert was a legacy. Grew up in Eugene and attended games his entire life. -
I haven't watched Moore's film because it's pointless. White Vick and Ty Thompson had insane tape and they can't beat out shitters like Anthony Brown and Bo fucking Nix. I thought whatever Huard was the best HS QB I'd seen since Justin Fields. Highlight vids are like watching star wars trailers. The movie is going to suck, or not, and it has nothing to do with 6 minutes on hudl. Also fuck you Cristobal for losing to Auburn, you gutless pos.
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Fucking fine, I watched a vid. His release reminds me of Mariota. He seems accurate with the ball. His size and speed aren't 5 star. He seems kinda like whatever Huard, maybe he's a coach's son. He looks a lot like a smaller, slower Mariota. He looks like he'd be great at Miami throwing 471 screen passes a year. 7 minute vid I didn't see a single ball driven down the field for a big play, and on that thought was there a single explosion play from him? One of his highlights was a backwards pass. He has good pocket feet but he's not going to bust a 30 yard run on 3rd and 20. His off platform accuracy and general throwing ability are clearly his strengths, along with the mental side of the game.
another edit: Oh, I didn't realize he committed to Oregon. Cool. Nattys. -
Our best pro quarterback, but there’s no question that Mariota had a better college career than Herbert.haie said:You dumb fucktards understand that this validates what doogs have been saying, that your current QB room is shit right?
I thought manning and that other paper tiger 5 star were going to be the next big thing? You're duct taping with Nix and then telling this kid he's starting day one.
Your best QB's in school history was 3 star that Helfrich out scouted people on, and a local kid whose parents wanted to go to UW. -
I always appreciate fan fichaie said:You dumb fucktards understand that this validates what doogs have been saying, that your current QB room is shit right?
I thought manning and that other paper tiger 5 star were going to be the next big thing? You're duct taping with Nix and then telling this kid he's starting day one.
Your best QB's in school history was 3 star that Helfrich out scouted people on, and a local kid whose parents wanted to go to UW. -
All facts. Sorry it hurts your snatch so much.thechatch said:
I always appreciate fan fichaie said:You dumb fucktards understand that this validates what doogs have been saying, that your current QB room is shit right?
I thought manning and that other paper tiger 5 star were going to be the next big thing? You're duct taping with Nix and then telling this kid he's starting day one.
Your best QB's in school history was 3 star that Helfrich out scouted people on, and a local kid whose parents wanted to go to UW. -
lol at Helfrich out-scouting anyone for Herbert. That’s not at all how it went down.haie said:
All facts. Sorry it hurts your snatch so much.thechatch said:
I always appreciate fan fichaie said:You dumb fucktards understand that this validates what doogs have been saying, that your current QB room is shit right?
I thought manning and that other paper tiger 5 star were going to be the next big thing? You're duct taping with Nix and then telling this kid he's starting day one.
Your best QB's in school history was 3 star that Helfrich out scouted people on, and a local kid whose parents wanted to go to UW.
Matt Lubick was the guy who scouted and recruited Herbert to Oregon. Helfrich wasn’t at all sold on JH and almost lost him to UW through his disinterest. Herbert had been coming off a broken leg and Helfrich wanted to pass while Jonathan Smith was all in on him. Steve Greatwood and Matt Lubick had to practically beg Helfrich to call Herbert and offer.
But I’m sure you’re the guy with the insight, given how much time you spend obsessing over Oregon football.
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Lickspittle has stories, doesn’t he.thechatch said:
lol at Helfrich out-scouting anyone for Herbert. That’s not at all how it went down.haie said:
All facts. Sorry it hurts your snatch so much.thechatch said:
I always appreciate fan fichaie said:You dumb fucktards understand that this validates what doogs have been saying, that your current QB room is shit right?
I thought manning and that other paper tiger 5 star were going to be the next big thing? You're duct taping with Nix and then telling this kid he's starting day one.
Your best QB's in school history was 3 star that Helfrich out scouted people on, and a local kid whose parents wanted to go to UW.
Matt Lubick was the guy who scouted and recruited Herbert to Oregon. Helfrich wasn’t at all sold on JH and almost lost him to UW through his disinterest. Herbert had been coming off a broken leg and Helfrich wanted to pass while Jonathan Smith was all in on him. Steve Greatwood and Matt Lubick had to practically beg Helfrich to call Herbert and offer.
But I’m sure you’re the guy with the insight, given how much time you spend obsessing over Oregon football.
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You're picking out a detail here that in no way changes my ultimate point.thechatch said:
lol at Helfrich out-scouting anyone for Herbert. That’s not at all how it went down.haie said:
All facts. Sorry it hurts your snatch so much.thechatch said:
I always appreciate fan fichaie said:You dumb fucktards understand that this validates what doogs have been saying, that your current QB room is shit right?
I thought manning and that other paper tiger 5 star were going to be the next big thing? You're duct taping with Nix and then telling this kid he's starting day one.
Your best QB's in school history was 3 star that Helfrich out scouted people on, and a local kid whose parents wanted to go to UW.
Matt Lubick was the guy who scouted and recruited Herbert to Oregon. Helfrich wasn’t at all sold on JH and almost lost him to UW through his disinterest. Herbert had been coming off a broken leg and Helfrich wanted to pass while Jonathan Smith was all in on him. Steve Greatwood and Matt Lubick had to practically beg Helfrich to call Herbert and offer.
But I’m sure you’re the guy with the insight, given how much time you spend obsessing over Oregon football.
That's how stupid you are. Hit your numbers this month so you can donate, bitch little quck.
Get your fellow poors to do the same. If you can't afford 120$ than shut the fuck up forever. -
One school owns the other and that fact isn't changing anytime soon.
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Exactly right. I'll take another beer. You can get it, or one of your fat Clark College daughters can get it. Up to you.46XiJCAB said:One school owns the other and that fact isn't changing anytime soon.
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“One detail” 😂haie said:
You're picking out a detail here that in no way changes my ultimate point.thechatch said:
lol at Helfrich out-scouting anyone for Herbert. That’s not at all how it went down.haie said:
All facts. Sorry it hurts your snatch so much.thechatch said:
I always appreciate fan fichaie said:You dumb fucktards understand that this validates what doogs have been saying, that your current QB room is shit right?
I thought manning and that other paper tiger 5 star were going to be the next big thing? You're duct taping with Nix and then telling this kid he's starting day one.
Your best QB's in school history was 3 star that Helfrich out scouted people on, and a local kid whose parents wanted to go to UW.
Matt Lubick was the guy who scouted and recruited Herbert to Oregon. Helfrich wasn’t at all sold on JH and almost lost him to UW through his disinterest. Herbert had been coming off a broken leg and Helfrich wanted to pass while Jonathan Smith was all in on him. Steve Greatwood and Matt Lubick had to practically beg Helfrich to call Herbert and offer.
But I’m sure you’re the guy with the insight, given how much time you spend obsessing over Oregon football.
That's how stupid you are. Hit your numbers this month so you can donate, bitch little quck.
Get your fellow poors to do the same. If you can't afford 120$ than shut the fuck up forever.
“Pump my gas!!!”
“I’m rich and you’re poor!!!”
Jesus. Do you have any idea how bad all of this looks, taken in the context of your all-consuming internet obsession?
I mean this is just awful, awful stuff, buddy. Get it together.