ABSOLUTELY INSANE

jecornel

Get your kids out of school, arm yourselves, eliminate as much reliance as possible. Change everything in your life.

This is a absolutely sickening to the core.

https://youtu.be/9IgEfGNF-7I

RoadTrip

All of them are already multi-millionaires and none of them will lose their gold plated pensions.

WestlinnDuck

RoadTrip said:

All of them are already multi-millionaires and none of them will lose their gold plated pensions.

These are rural Texas cops not California prison guards. Quite the difference in pensions.

WestlinnDuck

Seems like being a Uvalde cop isn't the big hero first responder deal it was a few days ago. I don't know how the town and the police force coexist after this, let alone happily.

"There was almost a mutiny": Uvalde cop says force is furious that they were held back
ALLAHPUNDIT May 28, 2022 1:01 PM ET

The key word here is “almost.” Why wasn’t there a mutiny?

The Border Patrol didn’t let the wishes of the police chief stop them from going in — after they waited half an hour.

Judge for yourself whether People magazine’s source is telling the truth or whether this is self-serving spin to deflect blame now that the Uvalde PD has become a national laughingstock.

“There was almost a mutiny,” the officer tells PEOPLE. “We were like, ‘There’s a f—ing gunman in the school, we hear gunshots, and we’re just going to stand here with our thumbs up our asses?’ We wanted to go in and save lives. It was the most frustrating situation of my entire career.”

“We felt like cowards,” the officer continues. “It felt cowardly to stand off and let this punk, this kid, this 18-year-old asshole just go in and do whatever he wanted to do. There was a lot of arguing, a lot of cussing, a lot of people who were saying that we should just say f— it and go in, but then what? We needed to have a plan, and the commander didn’t have a plan.”…

“Even if he had barricaded himself in, he had already shot at people,” the officer says, “so why weren’t we in there doing what we should’ve done? I remember thinking ‘this is wrong.’ But there was nothing I could do.”

A plan would have been nice. But cops are trained nowadays to confront a shooter immediately, without a plan, even if back-up hasn’t arrived yet. “The first responding officer — I don’t care if it’s the Deputy Dawg cartoon guy — he goes in and stops the shooter. That’s just part of the job,” said one expert on active shooters to WaPo. “You’ve got a ballistic vest. You know what the kids have? Crayons. You are duty-bound to do something. If someone is telling you to stay outside, you disobey that order.”

It’s true that the protocol changes once a shooter stops firing and barricades himself in a room. But the cops knew from the 911 calls that some children were still alive in there with him. Opting not to force a confrontation in that scenario, after he’s already presumably murdered multiple kids, amounts to trusting him to have suddenly lost the urge to kill.

Besides, there should have been a plan considering that the Uvalde school district’s police force had trained for an active shooter situation as recently as March of this year. As it is, according to one father whose daughter was murdered inside the school, the police didn’t even have the proper equipment: It took 15 to 20 minutes for protective tactical shields to arrive at the scene. God only knows how long the shooter would have remained alive inside the school if the Border Patrol’s tactical team hadn’t showed up.

I don’t know how this town and its police force will ever again coexist happily.

RoadTrip

WestlinnDuck said:

RoadTrip said:

All of them are already multi-millionaires and none of them will lose their gold plated pensions.

These are rural Texas cops not California prison guards. Quite the difference in pensions.

WestlinnDuck said:

RoadTrip said:

All of them are already multi-millionaires and none of them will lose their gold plated pensions.

These are rural Texas cops not California prison guards. Quite the difference in pensions.

Yes and their average salary is $54k. Do you think that's what they make at retirement? No. How much are just their family benefits at time of retirement for the rest of their lives? Let's say they retire at 55 and live until they're 80. That's 25 years of pension and benefits. I stand by my claim they are all already multi-millionaires and none of them will lose their pensions over their gross incompetence.

PurpleThrobber

I’ll say it again. Something doesn’t add up.

And for some reason my Spidey sense is saying “follow the money”.

46XiJCAB

WestlinnDuck said:

Seems like being a Uvalde cop isn't the big hero first responder deal it was a few days ago. I don't know how the town and the police force coexist after this, let alone happily.

"There was almost a mutiny": Uvalde cop says force is furious that they were held back
ALLAHPUNDIT May 28, 2022 1:01 PM ET

The key word here is “almost.” Why wasn’t there a mutiny?

The Border Patrol didn’t let the wishes of the police chief stop them from going in — after they waited half an hour.

Judge for yourself whether People magazine’s source is telling the truth or whether this is self-serving spin to deflect blame now that the Uvalde PD has become a national laughingstock.

“There was almost a mutiny,” the officer tells PEOPLE. “We were like, ‘There’s a f—ing gunman in the school, we hear gunshots, and we’re just going to stand here with our thumbs up our asses?’ We wanted to go in and save lives. It was the most frustrating situation of my entire career.”

“We felt like cowards,” the officer continues. “It felt cowardly to stand off and let this punk, this kid, this 18-year-old asshole just go in and do whatever he wanted to do. There was a lot of arguing, a lot of cussing, a lot of people who were saying that we should just say f— it and go in, but then what? We needed to have a plan, and the commander didn’t have a plan.”…

“Even if he had barricaded himself in, he had already shot at people,” the officer says, “so why weren’t we in there doing what we should’ve done? I remember thinking ‘this is wrong.’ But there was nothing I could do.”

A plan would have been nice. But cops are trained nowadays to confront a shooter immediately, without a plan, even if back-up hasn’t arrived yet. “The first responding officer — I don’t care if it’s the Deputy Dawg cartoon guy — he goes in and stops the shooter. That’s just part of the job,” said one expert on active shooters to WaPo. “You’ve got a ballistic vest. You know what the kids have? Crayons. You are duty-bound to do something. If someone is telling you to stay outside, you disobey that order.”

It’s true that the protocol changes once a shooter stops firing and barricades himself in a room. But the cops knew from the 911 calls that some children were still alive in there with him. Opting not to force a confrontation in that scenario, after he’s already presumably murdered multiple kids, amounts to trusting him to have suddenly lost the urge to kill.

Besides, there should have been a plan considering that the Uvalde school district’s police force had trained for an active shooter situation as recently as March of this year. As it is, according to one father whose daughter was murdered inside the school, the police didn’t even have the proper equipment: It took 15 to 20 minutes for protective tactical shields to arrive at the scene. God only knows how long the shooter would have remained alive inside the school if the Border Patrol’s tactical team hadn’t showed up.

I don’t know how this town and its police force will ever again coexist happily.

FUBAR.

No it’s not the Wordle of the day but it would be fitting.