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GOP's best option for 2024

SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,089
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There's nothing earth shattering in this video. But it does show how the guy can talk for 20 minutes plus, without notes, on policy issues and in complete sentences. We already know he can do the political red meat with the best of them. The GOP needs to seriously think about moving on from Trump, he served his purpose but if you want to win, and win big in Nov. 2024 this is the guy to do it. He is smart, he can think on his feet and he has an ability to communicate that we don't have with other candidates that doesn't come off as forced and performative. And yes, I'm talking about you Ted Cruz.

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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,089
    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    Trump has too much baggage to win. He reimagined the political playbook, though, so thanks to him for that. Now move on to the next generation. I would vote for DeSantis over Trump.

    Thank Trump for his service but it's time to move on.
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,496 Standard Supporter
    TDS and TIS have the same puzzlement to me: the guy lost, long past tim to get over it.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,517 Founders Club
    Trump isn't going anywhere nor should he. He has a base that any politician would kill for and Hillary has

    That doesn't mean he has to be the nominee. It means DeSantis has to embrace what's good and beat him

    Trump is out there now doing the groundwork and supporting local politicians.

    Today Trump has the loudest voice on the issues that matter. When DeSantis runs he will

    Right now Ron needs to get reelected. Fine line. Disney and the rest were nice enough to bring a national issue to Florida. Along with covid.

    Awfully warm for 2024. The democrats have plenty up their sleeve still
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,089
    RaceBannon said:

    Trump isn't going anywhere nor should he. He has a base that any politician would kill for and Hillary has

    That doesn't mean he has to be the nominee. It means DeSantis has to embrace what's good and beat him

    Trump is out there now doing the groundwork and supporting local politicians.

    Today Trump has the loudest voice on the issues that matter. When DeSantis runs he will

    Right now Ron needs to get reelected. Fine line. Disney and the rest were nice enough to bring a national issue to Florida. Along with covid.

    Awfully warm for 2024. The democrats have plenty up their sleeve still

    Rats are going to be playing the shit hand of $6.00 gas, double digit inflation, and exploding crime rates. And oh yeah, you're a bigot unless you support allowing teachers to talk about sex with your 5 year old.

    Good luck with that Rats.
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  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,509
    SFGbob said:

    There's nothing earth shattering in this video. But it does show how the guy can talk for 20 minutes plus, without notes, on policy issues and in complete sentences. We already know he can do the political red meat with the best of them. The GOP needs to seriously think about moving on from Trump, he served his purpose but if you want to win, and win big in Nov. 2024 this is the guy to do it. He is smart, he can think on his feet and he has an ability to communicate that we don't have with other candidates that doesn't come off as forced and performative. And yes, I'm talking about you Ted Cruz.

    100% only way Biden wins is if Trump runs again and does something stupid with is about 50% chance.
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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,707 Standard Supporter
    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    Trump has too much baggage to win. He reimagined the political playbook, though, so thanks to him for that. Now move on to the next generation. I would vote for DeSantis over Trump.

    Trump will beat DeSantis not a contest. I want DeSantis for VP. He'll get the next 8 year's. Longer the run the better for our nation after we kick out the commies they've done yuge damage.
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  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,709 Standard Supporter
    Best Option for GOP in 2024 is Biden to run. Trump needs to chinfluence the voters to get them to come out to vote, DeSantis should be able to get the nomination.

    In the mean tim - get control of the house and senate in 2022 and don't fuck it up in 2023 and 2024 - the press will be vicious. So odds are the Dems will again get the presidency, I don't think the GOP can go two years without fucking it up.

    There is a Dem out there somewhere that the soccer moms will fall for when the GOP screws up in 23/24 - dread the thought - Newsome? Can't really think of another Dem that could bump Biden out of the picture. Hope would be Harris does - guaranteed GOP victory racism and all.
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  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    I'm calling it now it's gonna be DeSantis v. Newsome. DIMS won't let Joey run again, they'll 25th his ass to stop that. Kammy will not win the nomination because she a F'n idiot. Trump can play Kingmaker and get the base out for all of the candidates he's supporting. He can take the heat for DeSantis until he says he's not running. He tells his base the country needs DeSantis and it's over. Cook it!
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  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,483 Swaye's Wigwam
    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm calling it now it's gonna be DeSantis v. Newsome. DIMS won't let Joey run again, they'll 25th his ass to stop that. Kammy will not win the nomination because she a F'n idiot. Trump can play Kingmaker and get the base out for all of the candidates he's supporting. He can take the heat for DeSantis until he says he's not running. He tells his base the country needs DeSantis and it's over. Cook it!

    I agree it’s going to be Gavin.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,517 Founders Club
    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm calling it now it's gonna be DeSantis v. Newsome. DIMS won't let Joey run again, they'll 25th his ass to stop that. Kammy will not win the nomination because she a F'n idiot. Trump can play Kingmaker and get the base out for all of the candidates he's supporting. He can take the heat for DeSantis until he says he's not running. He tells his base the country needs DeSantis and it's over. Cook it!

    I agree it’s going to be Gavin.
    Works perfect for the fake covid narrative. Newsom the hero and Deathsantis

    Housewives don't do math or science
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  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited March 2022
    Let me add. VP will be a woman. Color will not be the deciding factor. Just smart, articulate and relatable to suburban housewives around issues that actually matter.

    No feel good virtue signaling crap. BLM.
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  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,509
    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm calling it now it's gonna be DeSantis v. Newsome. DIMS won't let Joey run again, they'll 25th his ass to stop that. Kammy will not win the nomination because she a F'n idiot. Trump can play Kingmaker and get the base out for all of the candidates he's supporting. He can take the heat for DeSantis until he says he's not running. He tells his base the country needs DeSantis and it's over. Cook it!

    Let's hope
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  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,724 Swaye's Wigwam
    Swaye said:

    I'm also in the camp that wants to see the party move on from Trump to a more palatable Trump in DeathSantis - all the policies without as many distractions. That said, I do agree with Race that DS needs to beat him or get the torch passed by him - no freebies. If you can't get by Trump you don't deserve the belt and you are not ready for how the DNC controlled Pravda media is going to absolutely savage you.

    Also agree that the media is already gearing up for how DS makes Trump look like Mother Teresa. DeathSantis, because he isn't uniparty and actually has the balls to call out trannies beating girls, will be basically painted as Satan himself. Should be interesting.

    If DS can survive the crucible, can you imagine him debating Biden or Headboard? DS is legit on top of policy and has a great mind. Hell of a debater as well. He will absolutely mop the floor with them. /popcorn

    My problem with this is "palatable" and "baggage" are dog whistles for "the left's tactics worked".

    It's the same apologist attitude we hate the establishment gop for but here we are parroting it.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,517 Founders Club
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Swaye said:

    I'm also in the camp that wants to see the party move on from Trump to a more palatable Trump in DeathSantis - all the policies without as many distractions. That said, I do agree with Race that DS needs to beat him or get the torch passed by him - no freebies. If you can't get by Trump you don't deserve the belt and you are not ready for how the DNC controlled Pravda media is going to absolutely savage you.

    Also agree that the media is already gearing up for how DS makes Trump look like Mother Teresa. DeathSantis, because he isn't uniparty and actually has the balls to call out trannies beating girls, will be basically painted as Satan himself. Should be interesting.

    If DS can survive the crucible, can you imagine him debating Biden or Headboard? DS is legit on top of policy and has a great mind. Hell of a debater as well. He will absolutely mop the floor with them. /popcorn

    My problem with this is "palatable" and "baggage" are dog whistles for "the left's tactics worked".

    It's the same apologist attitude we hate the establishment gop for but here we are parroting it.
    Swaye said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Swaye said:

    I'm also in the camp that wants to see the party move on from Trump to a more palatable Trump in DeathSantis - all the policies without as many distractions. That said, I do agree with Race that DS needs to beat him or get the torch passed by him - no freebies. If you can't get by Trump you don't deserve the belt and you are not ready for how the DNC controlled Pravda media is going to absolutely savage you.

    Also agree that the media is already gearing up for how DS makes Trump look like Mother Teresa. DeathSantis, because he isn't uniparty and actually has the balls to call out trannies beating girls, will be basically painted as Satan himself. Should be interesting.

    If DS can survive the crucible, can you imagine him debating Biden or Headboard? DS is legit on top of policy and has a great mind. Hell of a debater as well. He will absolutely mop the floor with them. /popcorn

    My problem with this is "palatable" and "baggage" are dog whistles for "the left's tactics worked".

    It's the same apologist attitude we hate the establishment gop for but here we are parroting it.
    Hey DS fights for issues that matter and pisses them all off. Palatable just means not ripping people all day on Twitter in some juvenile way. Trump but with the rough edges removed is still good for the country.
    The competitor in me wants the streets to flow with the blood of my enemies. Bot scores a point

    But I rip people online all day and I realize how juvenile I am. Point Swaye

    Legit pleased with either one so welcome President Newsom
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  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited March 2022
    I'd like for Trump to learn the fine art of using a scalpel but he insists on going with the butcher knife. Think Reagan.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,089
    46XiJCAB said:

    I'd like for Trump to learn the fine art of using a scalpel but he insists on going with the butcher knife.

    At this point there's no teaching the old dog Trump any new tricks. He is what he is. Some of that is good and some is awful.
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