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Jaywalking laws are racist

SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113
Add it to the list.

Black people make up 9% of the population in Los Angeles, but they were 31% of the people stopped by the Los Angeles Police Department for jaywalking from 2018 to 2020.

These disparities are not just in Los Angeles; Black adults in California’s 15 largest law enforcement jurisdictions were almost 10 times more likely than white adults to be cited for minor infractions like jaywalking, according to a 2020 study by a Bay Area civil rights committee. The group also found that Latinos were nearly six times more likely to receive citations.


https://www.latimes.com/california/newsletter/2021-10-06/jaywalking-freedom-to-walk-essential-california
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  • SourcesSources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,015 Founders Club
    If I'm being honest, this is one of the few instances in which I can see there being a disproportionate application of a law against minorities. Whether that's racially motivated is debatable, but this strikes me as something that's more likely to be enforced in low income areas.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,731 Standard Supporter

    They were told not to jaywalk

    Beat the fuck out of them

    And freeze their bank accounts! Oh, that's right, can't get a bank account without ID. Never mind.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,628
    Race wants to take this in another direction, blob.

    I’m beginning to think he pays more attention to me than you do.

    #FeelingNeglected
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,737 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Race wants to take this in another direction, blob.

    I’m beginning to think he pays more attention to me than you do.

    #FeelingNeglected

    What direction is that?

    You support the cops being racist. No need to travel familiar ground

    Those people were told not to use the lunch counter
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,737 Founders Club
    Sources said:

    If I'm being honest, this is one of the few instances in which I can see there being a disproportionate application of a law against minorities. Whether that's racially motivated is debatable, but this strikes me as something that's more likely to be enforced in low income areas.

    It's easy money. Agree

    The city is where it happens. More minorities in the city. I got a jaywalk ticket at Pike Place Market once
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113
    edited February 2022
    Sources said:

    If I'm being honest, this is one of the few instances in which I can see there being a disproportionate application of a law against minorities. Whether that's racially motivated is debatable, but this strikes me as something that's more likely to be enforced in low income areas.

    Purely anecdotal but I suspect that most jaywalking infractions are handed out in urban areas. Los Angeles is notorious for handing out JW tickets. I've been cited for it when I lived there. These laws are not just enforced in low income areas, in fact I would argue they are mostly enforced in upper income areas, more likely to get people who will pay the fines in those areas, but the people walking around in LA and especially Jaywalking are definitely more low income. I know that most of the jay walkers I encounter are usually black guys often holding their dicks as they cross the street. Again, your mileage may vary.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113

    Sources said:

    If I'm being honest, this is one of the few instances in which I can see there being a disproportionate application of a law against minorities. Whether that's racially motivated is debatable, but this strikes me as something that's more likely to be enforced in low income areas.

    It's easy money. Agree

    The city is where it happens. More minorities in the city. I got a jaywalk ticket at Pike Place Market once
    And minorities are far more likely to be walking around especially in LA where nobody walks if they don't have to.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,731 Standard Supporter

    Sources said:

    If I'm being honest, this is one of the few instances in which I can see there being a disproportionate application of a law against minorities. Whether that's racially motivated is debatable, but this strikes me as something that's more likely to be enforced in low income areas.

    It's easy money. Agree

    The city is where it happens. More minorities in the city. I got a jaywalk ticket at Pike Place Market once
    Being "poor" is generally because of bad behavior. Bad in that they often have a criminal record, skipped school and are functionally illiterate and have problems with details, like renewing your vehicle registration tags and fixing broken tail lights. These same people are going to walk against a Don't Walk light. Anyone with a brain knows this. If they wanted an accurate study they would set up some cameras in a variety of neighborhoods and tally the percentage of jaywalkers by race. They basically do this with traffic light cameras and guess what?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113

    Sources said:

    If I'm being honest, this is one of the few instances in which I can see there being a disproportionate application of a law against minorities. Whether that's racially motivated is debatable, but this strikes me as something that's more likely to be enforced in low income areas.

    It's easy money. Agree

    The city is where it happens. More minorities in the city. I got a jaywalk ticket at Pike Place Market once
    Being "poor" is generally because of bad behavior. Bad in that they often have a criminal record, skipped school and are functionally illiterate and have problems with details, like renewing your vehicle registration tags and fixing broken tail lights. These same people are going to walk against a Don't Walk light. Anyone with a brain knows this. If they wanted an accurate study they would set up some cameras in a variety of neighborhoods and tally the percentage of jaywalkers by race. They basically do this with traffic light cameras and guess what?
    And that's why traffic light cameras along with credit scores are racist. What do you want to bet that the people who get the least JW tickets are Asians?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113
    edited February 2022
    Westwood and the Hollywood/Sunset strip were notorious for being locations where a lot of jaywalking tickets were issued back when I lived there. Not exactly low income areas.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,547 Founders Club
    edited February 2022
    Why not both? They aren't mutually exclusive. Could be a minority inner city population density thing AND "stop and frisk" by a different name.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,870 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Add it to the list.

    Black people make up 9% of the population in Los Angeles, but they were 31% of the people stopped by the Los Angeles Police Department for jaywalking from 2018 to 2020.

    These disparities are not just in Los Angeles; Black adults in California’s 15 largest law enforcement jurisdictions were almost 10 times more likely than white adults to be cited for minor infractions like jaywalking, according to a 2020 study by a Bay Area civil rights committee. The group also found that Latinos were nearly six times more likely to receive citations.


    https://www.latimes.com/california/newsletter/2021-10-06/jaywalking-freedom-to-walk-essential-california




    They are protesting the oppression of the white patriarchy.

  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,737 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    Why not both? They aren't mutually exclusive. Could be a minority inner city population density thing AND "stop and frisk" by a different name.

    No question that a large portion of laws are to allow a peek at what is going on. It's called policing. As our leftists friends tell us in Canada - just do what your told and you don't have to worry

    Jaywalking left unchecked can blockade commerce
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,870 Standard Supporter

    Swaye said:

    Why not both? They aren't mutually exclusive. Could be a minority inner city population density thing AND "stop and frisk" by a different name.

    No question that a large portion of laws are to allow a peek at what is going on. It's called policing. As our leftists friends tell us in Canada - just do what your told and you don't have to worry

    Jaywalking left unchecked can blockade commerce
    Jaywalking is a gateway crime to looting, arson and murder.

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,737 Founders Club
    Jaywalking
    Try weed
    Get hooked on heroin

    Hate to see it
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113

    Swaye said:

    Why not both? They aren't mutually exclusive. Could be a minority inner city population density thing AND "stop and frisk" by a different name.

    No question that a large portion of laws are to allow a peek at what is going on. It's called policing. As our leftists friends tell us in Canada - just do what your told and you don't have to worry

    Jaywalking left unchecked can blockade commerce
    It's part "take a peek" but there are also legitmate safety issues. People do get run over quite a bit while jaywalking and again those numbers disproptionately over represent black people and when that happens we get told that roads are racists. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

    Car culture disproportionately kills Black Americans. The pandemic made things worse.

    https://grist.org/transportation/racial-disparities-traffic-accidents-black-americans-covid/

  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    I thought that hiking was racist.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113
    edited February 2022
    hardhat said:

    I thought that hiking was racist.

    Hiking, camping, classical music, homework.

    https://www.laweekly.com/lausd-declares-homework-racist-classist/

    All racist.
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