Hall of Sham

RaceBannon

Baseball is for losers

No Bonds No Clemons

Fuck off

Nothing wrong with enhancing performance

Fishpo31

https://youtu.be/YgSPaXgAdzE

Purple_Pills

The Baseball Hall of Fame is an illegitimate joke until they change the voting process.

I’ve been to the HOF many times including two inductions. I am done until there are major changes.

Fishpo31

My time in professional baseball taught me many things, the most glaring being: It is chock-full of assholes, and those assholes have gigantic egos...the asshole players treat the asshole writers like shit, and this is where the writers get payback. Probably 80+% of the HOF inductees in the last 20-25 years were juicing at some point...

DerekJohnson

Purple_Pills said:

The Baseball Hall of Fame is an illegitimate joke until they change the voting process.

I’ve been to the HOF many times including two inductions. I am done until there are major changes.

I've been there once. It was enjoyable, but once is enough.

BleachedAnusDawg

75% of the league was juicing at the time Bonds and Clemens were playing. Probably a mostly level playing field, or maybe they just got the best stuff from Balco.

Bud Selig turned a blind eye and let players juice as the HR Wars that followed pulled the league out of the mess it created for itself as a result of the 1994 strike. This is the thank you those players get. Hell, they still can't get the Pete Rose thing right 40 years later. MLB writers are sanctimonious dipshit nerds.

Frankly, baseball was far more interesting when all the players were on steroids. 90's baseball was must watch every night for me. I haven't given a shit since the Mariners cheaped out on adding trade-line talent in 2001 and blew their shot at the World Series.

Purple_Pills

DerekJohnson said:

Purple_Pills said:

The Baseball Hall of Fame is an illegitimate joke until they change the voting process.

I’ve been to the HOF many times including two inductions. I am done until there are major changes.

I've been there once. It was enjoyable, but once is enough.

I have a ton of family in the area, so I end up in Cooperstown at least once a year. The last time I visited the HOF was 2019 when they had the Edgar Martinez exhibit.

Fishpo31

I’ve been once, when we went to a wedding in Vermont, and my wife found that we were only an hour or so away. We went in early October, no crowds, and she let me take time to see it all…great trip

greenblood

Let's not forget about the amphetamines that were used in the 70s and 80s. For fuck sake, just let them all in. Pete Rose and Joe Jackson should also be included. When Scott Rolen is getting consideration, your system is fucked.

Fishpo31

When they banned greenies, Red Bull stock must have shot through the roof…

chuck

There are more than enough guys in the HOF now who used substances that it still surprises me when anyone cares about the big names doing it. I mean, does anyone really think that Edgar was perfectly clean? When they first moved to Safeco I saw him stop and give a long, puzzled look when some of his good drives were caught on the warning track. I was watching a game a year or two later and he nearly hit one clear out of the facility to left field. He had his highest HR total that year.

I guess the truth is that they don't really care at all, but rather just don't like certain guys. Retarded that people who care that little about the history of the game, the importance of Rose passing Ty Cobb, McGuire and Sosa chasing 61 and then 70, and Bonds nearly hitting every single strike thrown to him into SF Bay for a season get to be the ones who decide. It's bizarre.

RoadDawg55

David Ortiz was caught juicing and got in. Barry Bonds not being in is fucking ridiculous. Same for Clemens. Same for A-Rod when he likely doesn’t get in.

There are a bunch. Like Chuck said, you are naive if you think Edgar wasn’t juicing. It’s a shitty sport that I somehow used to love.

1to392831weretaken

When it comes to substance abuse and baseball, my favorite story is that of Rube Waddell. I'm not a baseball fan (sorry, @Fishpo31), but it's definitely the sport with some of the best player stories. I don't know, maybe this is slightly off-topic, but this is a baseball thread, and I highly recommend this story of a guy who would definitely be posting here if he were born a shy century later:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0zI3Ed0kTQ

This guy was a contemporary of Cy Young but was a better pitcher. The fact that it's called the Cy Young award and you've (maybe) never heard of Rube Waddell should be a good enough hook to get you interested in listening.