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1961 Impala SS 409

DerekJohnson
DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,237 Founders Club


1961 Impala SS 409 in the waning days of the "two tone" paint job in an era where colorful cars reflected the culture. Compare to the dull "modern" vehicles in the background.

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  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,160 Standard Supporter
    $150k for a 283 car is insane.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,215 Founders Club
    She’s real fine my 409.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696



    1961 Impala SS 409 in the waning days of the "two tone" paint job in an era where colorful cars reflected the culture. Compare to the dull "modern" vehicles in the background.

    What does this even mean?

    Cars in the early sixties could be colorful or dull depending on what paint was used, just like today. Their design largely reflected the state of manufacturing technology at the time. They predate lighter/stronger unit-body construction, lighter/more durable plastic components, the necessary mounting locations for suspension that actually works...
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited December 2021
    That's stunning. I hate Chevy and GM so that's hard to say.

    I have to admit the Chev is prettier, but this one looks good in a convertible and the 409 couldn't hang with a 413 max wedge. Nothing could.


    This is a 62 Dart, btw.

    My first car was a 62 Lancer, somewhat similar in body style but with a slant six and push button automatic. My dad actually put a 318 with a 4 barrel and 4 speed manual transmission in it for me. Similar to this one but the lower body was black.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,215 Founders Club
    chuck said:

    That's stunning. I hate Chevy and GM so that's hard to say.

    I have to admit the Chev is prettier, but this one looks good in a convertible and the 409 couldn't hang with a 413 max wedge. Nothing could.


    This is a 62 Dart, btw.

    My first car was a 62 Lancer, somewhat similar in body style but with a slant six and push button automatic. My dad actually put a 318 with a 4 barrel and 4 speed manual transmission in it for me. Similar to this one but the lower body was black.

    Everyone from my Great Grand Dad to my dad was a Chevy Dealer. GM is king of the 60s. Ford and Chrysler can fuck off.

    I would not. touch a Chevy or Dodge with a 10ft pole right now.
  • DawgOfTheAges
    DawgOfTheAges Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,747 Founders Club
    edited December 2021

    chuck said:

    That's stunning. I hate Chevy and GM so that's hard to say.

    I have to admit the Chev is prettier, but this one looks good in a convertible and the 409 couldn't hang with a 413 max wedge. Nothing could.


    This is a 62 Dart, btw.

    My first car was a 62 Lancer, somewhat similar in body style but with a slant six and push button automatic. My dad actually put a 318 with a 4 barrel and 4 speed manual transmission in it for me. Similar to this one but the lower body was black.

    Everyone from my Great Grand Dad to my dad was a Chevy Dealer. GM is king of the 60s. Ford and Chrysler can fuck off.

    Yep, that was true and then Delorean challenged the GM dominance and introduced the muscle car craze and changed the world

    Suggested fabulous read “on a clear day you can see GM”
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    That's stunning. I hate Chevy and GM so that's hard to say.

    I have to admit the Chev is prettier, but this one looks good in a convertible and the 409 couldn't hang with a 413 max wedge. Nothing could.


    This is a 62 Dart, btw.

    My first car was a 62 Lancer, somewhat similar in body style but with a slant six and push button automatic. My dad actually put a 318 with a 4 barrel and 4 speed manual transmission in it for me. Similar to this one but the lower body was black.

    Everyone from my Great Grand Dad to my dad was a Chevy Dealer. GM is king of the 60s. Ford and Chrysler can fuck off.

    I would not. touch a Chevy or Dodge with a 10ft pole right now.
    Nah me either.

    I did just come back to this thread to see the car pictures again, especially that Dart. Man that's sweet.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    Said it before, say it again: Don't get the appeal. I guess I'm just not a person affected by nostalgia. Multiple times in my life, I've had a poster or a computer wallpaper or whatever of what I thought at the time was the most beautiful machine that would ever be built. Sometimes car, sometimes motorcycle, whatever.

    There's not a single one I look at now and don't think, "Huh, that's kind of dated now."
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696

    Said it before, say it again: Don't get the appeal. I guess I'm just not a person affected by nostalgia. Multiple times in my life, I've had a poster or a computer wallpaper or whatever of what I thought at the time was the most beautiful machine that would ever be built. Sometimes car, sometimes motorcycle, whatever.

    There's not a single one I look at now and don't think, "Huh, that's kind of dated now."

    Things mini van drivers say.
    Other things mini van drivers say: "This is AWESOME!"
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,215 Founders Club

    Said it before, say it again: Don't get the appeal. I guess I'm just not a person affected by nostalgia. Multiple times in my life, I've had a poster or a computer wallpaper or whatever of what I thought at the time was the most beautiful machine that would ever be built. Sometimes car, sometimes motorcycle, whatever.

    There's not a single one I look at now and don't think, "Huh, that's kind of dated now."

    Things mini van drivers say.
    Other things mini van drivers say: "This is AWESOME!"
    God they are so practical. Spacious. Great fuel economy. Good ride.

    We just bought a 2022 Sequoia TRD Pro. It’s an ecological disaster.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    For what it's worth, my current most beautiful machine in existence has been holding steady for a few years now:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-NggiPwges
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696

    Said it before, say it again: Don't get the appeal. I guess I'm just not a person affected by nostalgia. Multiple times in my life, I've had a poster or a computer wallpaper or whatever of what I thought at the time was the most beautiful machine that would ever be built. Sometimes car, sometimes motorcycle, whatever.

    There's not a single one I look at now and don't think, "Huh, that's kind of dated now."

    Things mini van drivers say.
    Other things mini van drivers say: "This is AWESOME!"
    God they are so practical. Spacious. Great fuel economy. Good ride.

    We just bought a 2022 Sequoia TRD Pro. It’s an ecological disaster.
    I parted ways with Honda in a "FUCK YOU, HONDA, I WILL NEVER OWN ANOTHER THING WITH YOUR FUCKING LOGO ON IT AGAIN*" way over what went down with our Odyssey. Was so pissed off that I made an "emotional decision" and traded it in at a huge loss on a Pacifica Hybrid.

    Best. Decision. Ever. Gets infinity MPG around town, unless you stomp on it, then it pulls nearly 300 hp with a shitload of torque (and a surprisingly mean growl). When the battery runs out, still gets well over 30 mpg. That beats the Honda's lifetim score of 18. Seats fold down in two seconds flat: I've had 10' sticks of lumber, PVC pipe, conduit, unistrut, etc. in there, hundreds of pounds of concrete or mortar, multiple motorcycles, a week's worth of luggage plus the dog kennel. Whatever. Stuff it all in! And even with 300 pounds of concrete in the back and a pile of lumber running down the middle, it still handles better than the Impala in the OP...

    I work at a very roughneck place, yet I know so many guys who either have minivans or their wives have shortdick syndrome and are blocking the purchase in spite of them wanting one badly. Someday, there's going to be historical case studies about how marketing convinced a whole generation of people to stigmatize and avoid the exact vehicle that met all of their needs. Congrats on making a rational choice.

    *Can't part with the EU300is generator. It's just too fucking good.

    Okay, now back to horseless carriages.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,215 Founders Club

    Said it before, say it again: Don't get the appeal. I guess I'm just not a person affected by nostalgia. Multiple times in my life, I've had a poster or a computer wallpaper or whatever of what I thought at the time was the most beautiful machine that would ever be built. Sometimes car, sometimes motorcycle, whatever.

    There's not a single one I look at now and don't think, "Huh, that's kind of dated now."

    Things mini van drivers say.
    Other things mini van drivers say: "This is AWESOME!"
    God they are so practical. Spacious. Great fuel economy. Good ride.

    We just bought a 2022 Sequoia TRD Pro. It’s an ecological disaster.
    I parted ways with Honda in a "FUCK YOU, HONDA, I WILL NEVER OWN ANOTHER THING WITH YOUR FUCKING LOGO ON IT AGAIN*" way over what went down with our Odyssey. Was so pissed off that I made an "emotional decision" and traded it in at a huge loss on a Pacifica Hybrid.

    Best. Decision. Ever. Gets infinity MPG around town, unless you stomp on it, then it pulls nearly 300 hp with a shitload of torque (and a surprisingly mean growl). When the battery runs out, still gets well over 30 mpg. That beats the Honda's lifetim score of 18. Seats fold down in two seconds flat: I've had 10' sticks of lumber, PVC pipe, conduit, unistrut, etc. in there, hundreds of pounds of concrete or mortar, multiple motorcycles, a week's worth of luggage plus the dog kennel. Whatever. Stuff it all in! And even with 300 pounds of concrete in the back and a pile of lumber running down the middle, it still handles better than the Impala in the OP...

    I work at a very roughneck place, yet I know so many guys who either have minivans or their wives have shortdick syndrome and are blocking the purchase in spite of them wanting one badly. Someday, there's going to be historical case studies about how marketing convinced a whole generation of people to stigmatize and avoid the exact vehicle that met all of their needs. Congrats on making a rational choice.

    *Can't part with the EU300is generator. It's just too fucking good.

    Okay, now back to horseless carriages.
    Oh the Toyota Sequoia is not a rational choice, my fren. 12 mpg around town. 17 on the HWy if lucky. But the Toyota 5.7 L v-8 is a proven platform and we’ll have this beast for 20 years. Handles pretty nice for a full size SUV and the off road capability is solid for its class.

    But yes an AWD Toyota Sienna would have been far more practical. Some people around here actually Jack them up a bit with bigger tires some how. Clearance can be an issue in the ski hill parking lot.

    Alas Mrs Snow hates mini vans more than any shot dick syndrome man.
  • MobeyB4Assholes
    MobeyB4Assholes Member Posts: 983


    Let me guess. You bought this new when you reitred.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,160 Standard Supporter



    1961 Impala SS 409 in the waning days of the "two tone" paint job in an era where colorful cars reflected the culture. Compare to the dull "modern" vehicles in the background.

    What does this even mean?

    Cars in the early sixties could be colorful or dull depending on what paint was used, just like today. Their design largely reflected the state of manufacturing technology at the time. They predate lighter/stronger unit-body construction, lighter/more durable plastic components, the necessary mounting locations for suspension that actually works...
    If you think a Honda Accord has as much style as that Impala I don't know what to say.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,160 Standard Supporter

    chuck said:

    That's stunning. I hate Chevy and GM so that's hard to say.

    I have to admit the Chev is prettier, but this one looks good in a convertible and the 409 couldn't hang with a 413 max wedge. Nothing could.


    This is a 62 Dart, btw.

    My first car was a 62 Lancer, somewhat similar in body style but with a slant six and push button automatic. My dad actually put a 318 with a 4 barrel and 4 speed manual transmission in it for me. Similar to this one but the lower body was black.

    Everyone from my Great Grand Dad to my dad was a Chevy Dealer. GM is king of the 60s. Ford and Chrysler can fuck off.

    I would not. touch a Chevy or Dodge with a 10ft pole right now.
    Chevy (GM) and Dodge make the coolest performance stuff right now, by far.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club
    edited December 2021
    I'll take a Porsche 911. German precision.

    And an old vintage Jeep, of course. I love the old vintage boats but keeping my fleet of Jeeps running is enough for me.

    edit: I will admit for the right GTO or 442 I might reevaluate my position somewhat.




  • ChillyDawg
    ChillyDawg Member Posts: 1,469
    edited December 2021
    1964 Impala SS is the cream of the crop for classic Chevy's in my mind...

    Hot Cars https://www.hotcars.com/1964-chevy-impala-facts-features/



  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696



    1961 Impala SS 409 in the waning days of the "two tone" paint job in an era where colorful cars reflected the culture. Compare to the dull "modern" vehicles in the background.

    What does this even mean?

    Cars in the early sixties could be colorful or dull depending on what paint was used, just like today. Their design largely reflected the state of manufacturing technology at the time. They predate lighter/stronger unit-body construction, lighter/more durable plastic components, the necessary mounting locations for suspension that actually works...
    If you think a Honda Accord has as much style as that Impala I don't know what to say.
    Nice strawman. Look, we've been down this road, and it's not going to go anywhere. I don't care what other people are into, I just don't get why a car's design would have more to do with the "culture" of the time than the manufacturing and materials realities.

    Besides, like with the old Impala vs. a modern Accord, I don't "have as much style" as Liberace. And I'm okay with that.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,160 Standard Supporter



    1961 Impala SS 409 in the waning days of the "two tone" paint job in an era where colorful cars reflected the culture. Compare to the dull "modern" vehicles in the background.

    What does this even mean?

    Cars in the early sixties could be colorful or dull depending on what paint was used, just like today. Their design largely reflected the state of manufacturing technology at the time. They predate lighter/stronger unit-body construction, lighter/more durable plastic components, the necessary mounting locations for suspension that actually works...
    If you think a Honda Accord has as much style as that Impala I don't know what to say.
    Nice strawman. Look, we've been down this road, and it's not going to go anywhere. I don't care what other people are into, I just don't get why a car's design would have more to do with the "culture" of the time than the manufacturing and materials realities.

    Besides, like with the old Impala vs. a modern Accord, I don't "have as much style" as Liberace. And I'm okay with that.
    You could sub in any modern family sedan for Accord and it's the same thing.

    Many cars in the 50's and early 60's were styled after rockets, jets, etc. All-new stuff for the era. There really isn't anything like that these days. It's why the Mustang went back to copying the old design, the Challenger sells as a direct rip-off (although bloated), etc. American history is deeply rooted in car culture and it was different back then than it is now. Woodward Ave, even Alki and Golden Gardens, those things don't exist anymore these days.

    Engineering advances have obviously brought in function over form to make cars reliable and drive well.