How many coaches have left Washington for better jobs? How many have left Oregon
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that's next level recruiting right there. "Let's go get a hubby".Mad_Son said:
If he performs well I'd be surprised if he left. I think DeBoer wants to win championships and if he is capable of that he is capable of doing that at UW. If he shows that potential then his road to a championship is probably easier here at that point than whoever his suitors are. Sure, maybe he is clearly really good next year and Ryan Day is in a plane crash and there is a risk to us. Otherwise if he is the guy he can set himself up here and achieve his goals.Edwin_Bambino said:This is a false equivalency - UW hasn’t had a coach perform well enough other than Pete to be wanted, and Pete quit on UW. Sark dipped on UW first chance he had. Would anyone really be surprised if Kalen performs well here, and in a few years if one of the better Big 10 jobs opens up he leaves?
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Sorry the sarcasm font wasn't working, but then again context might have informed you that dawgs aren't getting the best coachescreepycoug said:
Not sure I've seen anyone doog that far. Try www.dogman.com.Motown said:So are we making an argument for why oregon is the better job? You are telling me you can be a mediocre coach and get paid because of the Oregon brand and the leverage that job to get your actual dream job and get paid again ?
Vs washington is so prestigious that it very may be the very last place you coach because the job is too stressful (Peterman), or the athletic department is so incompetent that guys like ty willingham and Jimmy lake were hired and were proven so bad they will never head coach ever again!
Washington should be a desired destination job. But your hires might very well stay content that they've made it and stop you know , actually doing the job that got them there ..like recruiting. -
How is it a black eye? Two Florida guys left for Florida. Nobody outside of Oregon, Florida and Washington even knows this is happening.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Not really. FSU and Miami poaching your coaches in less than a five year span is a serious black eye for Oregon. And despite his in-game coaching flaws, Mario was 3-0 against us and whooped our asses on the recruiting trail. So him getting poached is a fucking delight on both levels.ntxduck said:This is some pretty serious coping
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It's not the first one I've missed; it won't be the last.Motown said:
Sorry the sarcasm font wasn't working, but then again context might have informed you that dawgs aren't getting the best coachescreepycoug said:
Not sure I've seen anyone doog that far. Try www.dogman.com.Motown said:So are we making an argument for why oregon is the better job? You are telling me you can be a mediocre coach and get paid because of the Oregon brand and the leverage that job to get your actual dream job and get paid again ?
Vs washington is so prestigious that it very may be the very last place you coach because the job is too stressful (Peterman), or the athletic department is so incompetent that guys like ty willingham and Jimmy lake were hired and were proven so bad they will never head coach ever again!
Washington should be a desired destination job. But your hires might very well stay content that they've made it and stop you know , actually doing the job that got them there ..like recruiting. -
Ty Willingham’s Rose Bowl victories disagree.dnc said:
The gap between perception and reality has never been greater with anyone in history than Steve Sarkisian.creepycoug said:
There are few things that annoy me more than the fact that he slithered out of here like a victorious Roman general and that 99% of the country saw it that way. When I was at the RR Shootout this year, Sark came up and a much of Sooners (with whom I was at that game) said, "Hey, Creep, you? guys had Sark, what do you think." When I got to the part of "he was door ass out just before Pat Haden FS threw our? hail mary for us?" they all chuckled and clearly thought it was sour grapes.Gladstone said:Sark and Royal are the obvious ones, although Sark was very close to being fired and was going to be had he lost the 2013 AC. As always, Saint Haden did indeed work miracles.
James and Pete both got burned out and quit football instead of hopping. I'm not sure if that reflects better on UW honestly lol
It's just about the best escape job I've ever seen. Even now ... I know 3 or 4 of his former players, and they are loyal to him beyond belief. You'd be surprised how many Huskies from that era credit him for bringing Washington back damnit!
That dude is either a master manipulator, chincredibly lucky or probably both.
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I don’t know. This last hire from Grocery Outlet I don’t think is going to work out for you. But good luck the rest of the way.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Not really. FSU and Miami poaching your coaches in less than a five year span is a serious black eye for Oregon. And despite his in-game coaching flaws, Mario was 3-0 against us and whooped our asses on the recruiting trail. So him getting poached is a fucking delight on both levels.ntxduck said:This is some pretty serious coping
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I can't find it now (actually I'm not going to look) but I know I read in the last month an account that he quit as a protest a la James. Suzzallo suspended one of his players for a championship game.dnc said:
I thought Suzzzalo fired Gloomy Gil?Purple_Pills said:Washington:
Gil Dobie to Navy
Darrell Royal to Texas
Seven to USC
Suzzallo didn't get along to be sure, but he left on his own accord. He didn't tell anyone until the last game.
I'm sure I'm sure I'm butchering the details.
I seem to recall it was a Royal Brougham article?
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BUT HE HAS A CONTRACT!!! 1!!YellowSnow said:
If DeBoner wins the Pac in Year 1 you double his salary at a minimum.RaceBannon said:As long as Husky fans understand that Kellen Deboner has no long lost love for Washington and if he starts out three and 0 next year UW will need to tear up the bargain contract and pay him 100 million for the final 9 games plus the post season
Its always about the money. Even Bama had to give Nick the ultimate escalation clause because Texas was SERIOUS about taking him
We're getting the 1.5 years of MWC head coach experience, dealing in hypotheticals discounts.
If he proves his worth, pay the man his monies no questions asked.
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Suzzallo forced him out IIRC. I have the book somewhere around here. Went onto continue to be a juggernaut coach even afterwards. Dumbest shit ever.pawz said:
I can't find it now (actually I'm not going to look) but I know I read in the last month an account that he quit as a protest a la James. Suzzallo suspended one of his players for a championship game.dnc said:
I thought Suzzzalo fired Gloomy Gil?Purple_Pills said:Washington:
Gil Dobie to Navy
Darrell Royal to Texas
Seven to USC
Suzzallo didn't get along to be sure, but he left on his own accord. He didn't tell anyone until the last game.
I'm sure I'm sure I'm butchering the details.
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Shaq Thompson and Danny Shelton commented on Twitter after Sark was fired at USC for his alcohol issues words to the effect. “ Some things haven’t changed.”creepycoug said:
There are few things that annoy me more than the fact that he slithered out of here like a victorious Roman general and that 99% of the country saw it that way. When I was at the RR Shootout this year, Sark came up and a much of Sooners (with whom I was at that game) said, "Hey, Creep, you? guys had Sark, what do you think." When I got to the part of "he was door ass out just before Pat Haden FS threw our? hail mary for us?" they all chuckled and clearly thought it was sour grapes.Gladstone said:Sark and Royal are the obvious ones, although Sark was very close to being fired and was going to be had he lost the 2013 AC. As always, Saint Haden did indeed work miracles.
James and Pete both got burned out and quit football instead of hopping. I'm not sure if that reflects better on UW honestly lol
It's just about the best escape job I've ever seen. Even now ... I know 3 or 4 of his former players, and they are loyal to him beyond belief. You'd be surprised how many Huskies from that era credit him for bringing Washington back damnit!
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I wish the UW job had been more of a stepping stone. Would have been nice to get Neuheisel hired away sooner than when he had to get fired but he went downhill so quickly in 2001 I think no one wanted him. Same with Sark in 2009 and 2010. To be fair as well, a lot of coaches would have been hired away from UW after 2016 if they did what Petersen did but it just happened Petersen was a rare guy who wasn't interested. I also think Mario might have only left Oregon for Miami, Alabama (succeeding Saban) or the NFL and I think only the first was a real option. Bad luck for Oregon but Taggart getting hired away was great luck so evens out.
