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DugtheDoog
DugtheDoog Member Posts: 3,180
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that he's in wait and see mode with Chris Petersen and the way he handles the Cyler Miles situation will determine his ultimate opinion of him. Not wins and losses, but how he handles one suspended kid. He also notes how Sark was always fair and consistent in his discipline.
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  • CaptainPJ
    CaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986
    If Peterman goes 7-6, we should blame it on Hugh Millen, blaming Keith Price, and excusing Jak Lockner because he played for Try, who just needed more cock. . .

    That about it?
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  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    I don't mind the wait and see opinion on Petersen really. What I do mind though is most of the people in wait and see mode on Petersen are the same fucktards who crowned Sarkisian's ass after his initial KICK ASS! presser and would continue to defend his mediocrity up until the second he bolted for USC.

    Just like Hugh Millen's critique of Keith Price I would find annoying but the fact this is the same guy who gave Lockner a passing grade after going 4-20 against Nebraska just fucking annoys me.

    I already know the Doogman script will be if Petersen god forbid goes 8-5 the narrative will be "See he's just not ready for big time football. Sarkisian had this program going the right way and it's too bad he left".

    If Petersen wins 10 games or more"Well Sarkisian had the program going in the right direction and would have gone 11-2. He was basically 11-2 last year and 9-4 the year prior. He had the program going in the right direction and left Petersen with one of the most talented teams we have seen".

    In every position preview Doogman has done so far they've made sure to point out how talented that group is that Sarkisian is leaving behind. I've never heard so much praise about a former coach in my life.

    For me the big questions will be: Are the blowouts over? (and) Are we in every game?

    Sark was always good for getting completely steamrolled at least twice per year. It just left you with the feeling that we were a good mediocre team, and that's all we were going to be.

    Even if we beat usc in 2009 and stanford in 2011, I just never thought that he was assembling a team that would consistently be in every game. Never.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Tequilla said:

    With all due respect to Miles, he plays a position that I just can't sit there and have a ton of sympathy for doing something completely fucktarded and even if you weren't "doing" the fucktardedness, you showed a total and complete lack of leadership by not getting the individual that did away from the situation.

    Leadership is a huge "skill" when it comes to playing the QB position. If you don't have it, you can't be a good one.

    And time will tell if he learned anything from the situation or not.

    You're reading a whole lot into his leadership abilities from one decision. You're assuming because he didn't exercise good leadership that doesn't mean he has leadership skills. I think that's a massive overassumption. Every good leader I know has been in situations where they made bad leadership choices. Sometimes a bad choice with major consequences like this is exactly what unleashes that leadership inside. It's certainly possible we'll see him make major leadership strides after this.

    I'm not saying Miles is a great leader, I have no idea. But then, neither do you.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,270
    With all due respect to Miles, he plays a position that I just can't sit there and have a ton of sympathy for doing something completely fucktarded and even if you weren't "doing" the fucktardedness, you showed a total and complete lack of leadership by not getting the individual that did away from the situation.

    Leadership is a huge "skill" when it comes to playing the QB position. If you don't have it, you can't be a good one.
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  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,543 Founders Club
    Sarkophants?
    Swaye said:

    Doogs just can't quit Sark. They are too invested in defending him for several years to ever let him go. No hope for them. Jagged flint napalm mudslide is required.

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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,270
    DNC is right that neither him or I have a true read on Miles' ability to be a leader.

    But on the other hand, what we do have is evidence that he didn't get himself or a teammate out of a bad position not once in an evening, but twice that led to an investigation and charges.

    I also agree with you that he's got an opportunity to learn and improve from this. But at the same time, I'm not so sure that he will get that opportunity at the UW.

    You are also right that many crash and burn and use those experiences to be better in the long run. But most of the time, the implementation of those learnings comes from a second or third opportunity.
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