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DeBoer HC/Tedford OC
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You know who wasn’t there for the 4-8 season but was there the two successful years prior?sonics1993 said:
Three years before he took over as head coach, 10-4, 12-2, and then 4-8 where Jeff had health problems pop up. It was a winning program. He goes 3-3 his first year and then 9-3 his second year. I would like to see what his record is when he has to bring in his own recruits before giving him the job.digits said:
The year before DeBoer was hired, Fresno St. went 4-8 in 2019, obviously, the same record we? have now. He didn't inherit a winning program.sonics1993 said:
One of my biggest concerns besides recruiting is he's never built a program. This job is a rebuild, as we all saw Friday night. He took over a successful team at the NAIA level and then took over a team with Tedford recruits and had one decent year (Yes, nine wins at the MW level is decent to me). That's a good resume for WSU or Arizona, but it shouldn't be good enough for Washington.DoogDawg said:
We are doomed to fail if we try to beat Oregon at Oregon’s game. We aren’t going to consistently pull top 5 recruiting classes (and then fail to develop anyone).sonics1993 said:
Totally agree it's not everything, but I have seen how these Mountain West coaches operate when they get to the Pac-12, and they try to do the same thing they did in the mountain west, which is why most fail. I'm being an asshole and should LIPO. His staff hirings should tell me a lot, but I was hoping for a more proven coach to be hired. To me, this is just as big of a gamble as hiring Jimmy.RoadDawg55 said:@sonics1993 I don’t know even the ins and outs of the program like you do. It’s not even close. I know next to nothing about anything inside the program. I am fully aware how important recruiting is, but it’s not the end all be all like you believe.
Lots of ways to win - but we had a winning formula with pulling top-15 classes and then actually developing players. I’m a bit concerned about recruiting, but 90% of it is just effort, and that’s it. If the staff puts in the effort, they’ll be fine. Plus, recruiting is transactional now, and if we finally figured out NIL with Montlake Futures, we are good.
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They actually did well in 2020 ranking fourth in the Big Ten in PPG but fell off this year. I'm not saying he's not a great coordinator but as a head coach, I was hoping for more of a proven commodity.RoadDawg55 said:
You know who wasn’t there for the 4-8 season but was there the two successful years prior?sonics1993 said:
Three years before he took over as head coach, 10-4, 12-2, and then 4-8 where Jeff had health problems pop up. It was a winning program. He goes 3-3 his first year and then 9-3 his second year. I would like to see what his record is when he has to bring in his own recruits before giving him the job.digits said:
The year before DeBoer was hired, Fresno St. went 4-8 in 2019, obviously, the same record we? have now. He didn't inherit a winning program.sonics1993 said:
One of my biggest concerns besides recruiting is he's never built a program. This job is a rebuild, as we all saw Friday night. He took over a successful team at the NAIA level and then took over a team with Tedford recruits and had one decent year (Yes, nine wins at the MW level is decent to me). That's a good resume for WSU or Arizona, but it shouldn't be good enough for Washington.DoogDawg said:
We are doomed to fail if we try to beat Oregon at Oregon’s game. We aren’t going to consistently pull top 5 recruiting classes (and then fail to develop anyone).sonics1993 said:
Totally agree it's not everything, but I have seen how these Mountain West coaches operate when they get to the Pac-12, and they try to do the same thing they did in the mountain west, which is why most fail. I'm being an asshole and should LIPO. His staff hirings should tell me a lot, but I was hoping for a more proven coach to be hired. To me, this is just as big of a gamble as hiring Jimmy.RoadDawg55 said:@sonics1993 I don’t know even the ins and outs of the program like you do. It’s not even close. I know next to nothing about anything inside the program. I am fully aware how important recruiting is, but it’s not the end all be all like you believe.
Lots of ways to win - but we had a winning formula with pulling top-15 classes and then actually developing players. I’m a bit concerned about recruiting, but 90% of it is just effort, and that’s it. If the staff puts in the effort, they’ll be fine. Plus, recruiting is transactional now, and if we finally figured out NIL with Montlake Futures, we are good.
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They hate you because it’s trueMikeDamone said:
Meanwhile USC hits a grand slam. Leave it to TheFatLesboSchool to continue their FatLesboSchool ways.backthepack said:
thisMikeDamone said:We’re so fucked.
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Nobody hates him or wanting a bigger name in the eyes of the media.SFGbob said:
They hate you because it’s trueMikeDamone said:
Meanwhile USC hits a grand slam. Leave it to TheFatLesboSchool to continue their FatLesboSchool ways.backthepack said:
thisMikeDamone said:We’re so fucked.
Good luck the rest of the way.
Shit is all a crap shoot. Pete was burned out before even accepting the UW job. Started at 8-6, finished at 8-5.
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If DeBoer cant convince Haener to follow him to UW to be the starting QB zero chance he regularly wins recruiting battles against Riley, Oregons NIL program, or other academically prowessed programs.
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Players seem to think it’s Campbell, if it’s DeBoer that’s going to be disappointing for them and probably not be good for the portal odds.
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Source?BowDownDeathRow said:Players seem to think it’s Campbell, if it’s DeBoer that’s going to be disappointing for them and probably not be good for the portal odds.
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It's almost like putting stock in the Covid season is meaningless. I mean Jimmy won the North (hang the banner Jen)BleachedAnusDawg said:
You want a coach who went 2-6 in conference with a team that won a NY6 last year and returned 20 starters.backthepack said:
We hired a fucking coach who got skull dragged by Todd Graham and Andy Avalos.MikeDamone said:@backthepack gets it.
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Saban lost to Lambo, nextcoach_pete_JPG said:
I heard Saban called but Jen’s phone was on silent… don’t twistAtomicDawg said:
Make saban say no potd.MikeDamone said:Is Oklahoma taking to deboner? That’s what I thought.
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Which players? There's a thread on this on Dawgman too but I haven't seen anything on the Twittersphere.BowDownDeathRow said:Players seem to think it’s Campbell, if it’s DeBoer that’s going to be disappointing for them and probably not be good for the portal odds.
