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Russell Wilson and the Seahawks' Offense are broken | Film Room

DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,536 Founders Club
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  • CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    They need to blow it all up. Pete, Russ, Schneider (ESPECIALLY Schneider). It was a great/fun run but it will be stuck in the realm of mediocrity to BAD if they keep trying to hold a window open that has been closed for years.
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,745
    CuntWaffle said:

    They need to blow it all up. Pete, Russ, Schneider (ESPECIALLY Schneider). It was a great/fun run but it will be stuck in the realm of mediocrity to BAD if they keep trying to hold a window open that has been closed for years.

    Not having a first round pick next year is the most inexcusable shit of so many layers of inexcusable shit.

    Agree, blow it all up.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,986 Founders Club
    You have to fire Pete and keep Rusty

    Not a fan as has been well documented but you don't get rid of a franchise QB. You just don't

    Get a new staff and scheme in and protect your asset and see if there is a second chapter
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  • ChillyDawgChillyDawg Member Posts: 1,469
    edited December 2021
    Seattle Times https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/analysis-game-plan-return-to-health-give-russell-wilson-and-seahawks-renewed-life/


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l-kfx6e2Dw
    Watch Seattle Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson's three most improbable completions from Week 13 of the 2021 NFL season, according to Next Gen Stats.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoeboClpK4c
    ESPN: Marcus Spears and Mike Tannenbaum join Max Kellerman on This Just In to discuss if Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll's time in Seattle has come to an end.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2meHkC51RY
    NBC Sports: Mike Florio and Mike Golic analyze the Seahawks’ win over their division rival, the 49ers, explain why it was just a matter of time for Seattle to “wake up” and weigh what to expect from Russell Wilson moving forward.
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  • ChillyDawgChillyDawg Member Posts: 1,469
    edited December 2021
    Bleacher Report https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10020296-russell-wilson-trade-rumors-seahawks-qb-open-to-playing-for-giants-saints-broncos

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  • ChillyDawgChillyDawg Member Posts: 1,469
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8erv2Sr_9yo
    ESPN: Are the Bears better off with Justin Fields than they would be with Russell Wilson? The KJM crew previews the Chicago Bears vs. Seattle Seahawks matchup in Week 16 of the NFL season.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITeg7QMjp1U
    Talkin' Giants: Should Giants trade for Russell Wilson? Bobby and Justin discuss the pros and cons of trading for Russell Wilson and where they both are in terms of their interest level in doing so.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH4lD8GDYQc
    The Rich Eisen Show: Rich Eisen explains why the Seahawks should act quickly if and when they decide to trade Russell Wilson and throw around some possible swap scenarios that include Deshaun Watson or Baker Mayfield in Seattle next season.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGX7Qyzn4es
    NBC Sports: Is Russell Wilson's trade value plummeting amid rumors? Mike Florio and Charean Williams discuss Russell Wilson's future and if he'll be a member of the Seattle Seahawks beyond this season, and if teams will be hesitant to trade assets for a player currently underperforming.
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  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 11,566
    Wilson is past his prime. He's taken too many hits, many his own doing, and is pudgy.
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  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,934 Founders Club
    If you're going to trade Wilson, don't just settle for Daniel Jones or some unknown rookie. It's stupid. It's not clear he's washed up at this point. He might have five or six good years left.

    It's not working. It's time to clean house. Don't fire Pete yet, but if he wants to take some cushy front office job for a two years until retirement, don't stop that impulse either. It's time to rebuild though.
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  • ChillyDawgChillyDawg Member Posts: 1,469
    edited December 2021
    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    If you're going to trade Wilson, don't just settle for Daniel Jones or some unknown rookie. It's stupid. It's not clear he's washed up at this point. He might have five or six good years left.

    It's not working. It's time to clean house. Don't fire Pete yet, but if he wants to take some cushy front office job for a two years until retirement, don't stop that impulse either. It's time to rebuild though.

    It's time to rebuild the franchise starting with John Schneider and Pete Carroll. Because John's his recent drafting, free agency signing, player trading acumen has been beyond horrible. As well as, Pete's coaching decisions have been seriously befuddling at times over recent years.

    Then working their way down to the players on the field via trades, free agency as well as the draft but the brain trust in the front office and on the sidelines is played out and needs to be replaced ASAP.

    Since John made that horrible trade for Jamal Adams and lost back to back first round draft picks for an often injured safety he has to make a major off-season move to recoup what he lost.

    The Seahawks should keep Russell Wilson but I get the feeling that he may become the fall guy for John Schneider and Pete Carroll's recent failures (on and off of the field) this off-season with multiple number one draft picks coming back in return for Wilson's services elsewhere. Time will tell...

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  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 4,889 Standard Supporter
    I just don't see this team being able to win the division next year with SF, Arizona, and LA all being younger and more complete teams than the Seahawks. Wilson took some sacks this year that a younger Wilson would have escaped.

    A part of me thinks they should do a hard reset and let long-time vets like RW and Wagner have one last chance to make it back to the SB via trade.

    Starting OTs Duane Brown (turns 37 right before the 2022 season starts) and Brandon Shell are FAs. Al Woods will be 35 and a FA. Chris Carson gets hurt too much and Penny will be a FA.

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  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 11,566
    CuntWaffle said:

    HFNY said:

    I just don't see this team being able to win the division next year with SF, Arizona, and LA all being younger and more complete teams than the Seahawks. Wilson took some sacks this year that a younger Wilson would have escaped.

    A part of me thinks they should do a hard reset and let long-time vets like RW and Wagner have one last chance to make it back to the SB via trade.

    Starting OTs Duane Brown (turns 37 right before the 2022 season starts) and Brandon Shell are FAs. Al Woods will be 35 and a FA. Chris Carson gets hurt too much and Penny will be a FA.

    Bingo.

    This team has the worst long term outlook in the division currently. For as much shit as Pete and Russ get, Schneider is the core of the problem. He has made so many shit moves since the Super Bowl era that have depleted this roster, and this isn't an overnight fix. He has been putting Band-Aids on a festering wound for years now. Russ needs to be traded for some capital. As bad as he has been this year, he still has a lot of value and some team with a young talented roster that can handle his contract would gladly pay a decent price for win it now scenario. I think Russ can still be decent somewhere but it won't be here. This offensive line isn't going to magically change overnight with 1 or 2 free agent signings and a 5th round OL pick. Let him go somewhere to end his career where winning is still an option while the big rebuild process starts in Seattle. Otherwise it is going to be a long time before the Seahawks are relevant again.
    My understanding is that Pete has final say on the roster.
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