Was at the grocery store this morning at 5am

AtomicPiss

Got into a conversation with a checker. She said her manager is telling them that a massive aluminum shortage is coming, which will reflect in things like energy drinks going up by 50-100% in retail cost

Fire_Marshall_Bill

Hey, I recycle cans

part of the solution, not the problem

HuskyJW

Shouldn’t drink that shit anyways.

Doog_de_Jour

This was starting back in 2020:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/07/15/aluminum-can-shortage-beer-soda-coca-cola-pepsico-covid-19/5443308002/

I put part of the blame on @Pitchfork51:

“Ball spokesperson Renee Robinson said the company experienced increasing demand for aluminum cans before COVID-19 from a surge of interest in hard seltzer and sparkling water.”

TheRoarOfTheCrowd

The big issue is the rationing of energy taking place in China... the largest aluminum producer... that and the fact that the number 2 precious producer used to be Brazil but they have closed a lot of their plants ~ again about energy... Capacity has shrunk and has long since moved off shore so here we go with plastics again and jacked up profit margins because of "unexpected shortages" for the remaining few producers.

We have offshored so many "critical" industries under the guise of socio political agenda when it was really about market control and price fixing, and its now coming back to bite us in the butt... congress and the administrations have been bought off [both parties] and consequently unnatural consolidation has taken place and the remaining handful of producers have been allowed to close and offshore critical capacity which was preciously multiply redundant because of enough competition to maintain a healthy level of excess capacity.

This "above board" payola used to be referred to as racketeering and is now through legislative reform [legal changes written and paid for by big business] a perfectly legal maneuver. FMFYFE. This is a good example, and represents the unseen shell game genesis of the decline and fall of America as we knew it.

Doog_de_Jour

DawgsCanDance said:

The big issue is the rationing of energy taking place in China... the largest aluminum producer... that and the fact that the number 2 precious producer used to be Brazil but they have closed a lot of their plants ~ again about energy... Capacity has shrunk and has long since moved off shore so here we go with plastics again and jacked up profit margins because of "unexpected shortages" for the remaining few producers.

We have offshored so many "critical" industries under the guise of socio political agenda when it was really about market control and price fixing, and its now coming back to bite us in the butt... congress and the administrations have been bought off [both parties] and consequently unnatural consolidation has taken place and the remaining handful of producers have been allowed to close and offshore critical capacity which was preciously multiply redundant because of enough competition to maintain a healthy level of excess capacity.

This "above board" payola used to be referred to as racketeering and is now through legislative reform [legal changes written and paid for by big business] a perfectly legal maneuver. FMFYFE. This is a good example, and represents the unseen shell game genesis of the decline and fall of America as we knew it.

I will again take this opportunity to plug @GrundleStiltzkin’s book recommendation - energy is vital:

rodmansrage

DerekJohnson said:

Got into a conversation with a checker. She said her manager is telling them that a massive aluminum shortage is coming, which will reflect in things like energy drinks going up by 50-100% in retail cost

the 5am checker is your source?!!?!?

HFNY

I'm so glad that I've kept all of my Zima cans from over the years.

1to392831weretaken

@DerekJohnson leaving the grocery store at 5:10:

AtomicPiss

1to392831weretaken said:

@DerekJohnson leaving the grocery store at 5:10:

I wondered who was in that car trailing me at 5MPH