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SFGbob
SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
edited July 2021 in Tug Tavern
The US Surgeon General is calling on "Big Tech" to do more about "misinformation" regarding COVID that's being spread around and he is calling for them

In his advisory, he puts pressure on big tech companies to play a bigger role in combating health misinformation on their platforms. He wants to see algorithms tweaked to further demote bad information and companies to share more data with outside researchers and the government.

"The tech companies actually have a much better sense of how much misinformation is being transacted on their platforms, and without understanding the full extent of it ... it's hard to formulate the most effective strategies," he says.

The new surgeon general's advisory comes as welcome news to Imran Ahmed, the chief executive of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, a group that tracks COVID-19 misinformation online. But Ahmed also says that asking individual Americans to fight misinformation won't be enough.

His group has identified a dozen major spreaders of vaccine misinformation, and many continue to operate unchecked on social media. "At our last count 30 of 89 social media accounts for those 12 people have been taken down, but that means 59 are still up," he says. "They've still got millions of viewers being pumped misinformation and lies on a daily basis."

Social media companies profiting off clicks are spreading misinformation faster than it can be counteracted, Ahmed says. He'd like to see the surgeon general exert even more pressure on those companies.


Now imagine applying this standard to the misinformation that's spread around by BLM and their supporters. "Hands Up Don't shoot" Should the people who push that lie be subject to censorship? 1619 Project? How about the people who claim Jan. 6th was worse than 9/11 and the biggest threat to our democracy since the Civil War? Biden's Government is using Big Tech to take away people's 1st Amendment Rights, and they are the sole arbiters of what is and what isn't "misinformation."

Where the hell do you draw the line with this? Is it "misinformation" if you say that there are only two genders? How about if you say "All Lives Matter." Will that now be considered misinformation? This is some scary shit.
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  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,717 Founders Club
    Good day for fascism.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    I didn’t want the government involved in social media at all, you guys are the ones still begging for. You reap what you sow.

    I don’t peddle scientifically illiterate conspiracy theories so I’m not worried about this.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited July 2021

    I didn’t want the government involved in social media at all, you guys are the ones still begging for. You reap what you sow.

    I don’t peddle scientifically illiterate conspiracy theories so I’m not worried about this.

    You mean like the people who said it didn't come from a Chinese lab but from a Chinese wet market? You do peddle bullshit racist conspiracy theories blaming white racism for black crime and out of wedlock birth rates. What if the government decided to start censoring your ignorant lying ass Kobe? You in?

    Pretty funny how when you're confronted with the dictionary definition of the thing you claim to care about you lick the boot when it's being done by your team.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    I promise you the dictionary definition of fascism isn’t “asking companies to combat misinformation”.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited July 2021
    MelloDawg said:
    Weird how a "centrist" is getting his talking points from a Communist news paper. Explains why you so rarely let go of the side of the kiddie pool Mello. Glug, glug.

    You can read the bill and analysis of it right here.

    https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Documents/loaddoc.aspx?FileName=h0233z1.PEL.DOCX&DocumentType=Analysis&BillNumber=0233&Session=2021

    It doesn't do what you claim Mello. Shocking, the board "centrist" is really a leftwing hack that swallows like a bitch communist propaganda.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    I promise you the dictionary definition of fascism isn’t “asking companies to combat misinformation”.

    I promise you that it is the government working with business to harass and silence the government's political opposition. Who decides what's "misinformation" Kobe? I recall the government telling me that Hunter's laptop wasn't real and that it was nothing more than Russian disinformation. And you being the good little fascist boot licker you are had no problem with big tech shutting that story down.

    Hell I recall when Tom Cotton was being accused of spreading "misinformation" when he said that we should look into the possibility that Covid resulted from a lab leak. I guess you would have applauded the government getting big tech to shut him down to, right Kobe?

    You spread real misinformation all the fucking time Kobe. When and if a Conservative President gets elected are you going to be so blase about them working with big tech to shut you and your fellow leftist bedwetters down?
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,183 Founders Club

    I promise you the dictionary definition of fascism isn’t “asking companies to combat misinformation”.


  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    SFGbob said:

    I promise you the dictionary definition of fascism isn’t “asking companies to combat misinformation”.

    I promise you that it is the government working with business to harass and silence the government's political opposition. Who decides what's "misinformation" Kobe? I recall the government telling me that Hunter's laptop wasn't real and that it was nothing more than Russian disinformation. And you being the good little fascist boot licker you are had no problem with big tech shutting that story down.

    Hell I recall when Tom Cotton was being accused of spreading "misinformation" when he said that we should look into the possibility that Covid resulted from a lab leak. I guess you would have applauded the government getting big tech to shut him down to, right Kobe?

    You spread real misinformation all the fucking time Kobe. When and if a Conservative President gets elected are you going to be so blase about them working with big tech to shut you and your fellow leftist bedwetters down?
    Well this is fascism and conservatives aren’t fascist so I have nothing to worry about, do I?
  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    SFGbob said:

    MelloDawg said:
    Weird how a "centrist" is getting his talking points from a Communist news paper. Explains why you so rarely let go of the side of the kiddie pool Mello. Glug, glug.

    You can read the bill and analysis of it right here.

    https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Documents/loaddoc.aspx?FileName=h0233z1.PEL.DOCX&DocumentType=Analysis&BillNumber=0233&Session=2021

    It doesn't do what you claim Mello. Shocking, the board "centrist" is really a leftwing hack that swallows like a bitch communist propaganda.
    LOL . . . I guess peoplesworld.org qualifies as a “slightly left” media source.

    I wonder what Mellow considers to be further to the Left than Communist Party propaganda . . .


  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,676 Standard Supporter
    the government dictating or even working with private companies on social media content is definitely fascism

    if you don't get that, go to the kid's table where you belong
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited July 2021

    I promise you the dictionary definition of fascism isn’t “asking companies to combat misinformation”.


    Benito Mussolini

    “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”
    ― Benito Mussolini


    I promise you, Kobe is either a fucking moron or a liar. Take your pick Kobe.
  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042

    SFGbob said:

    I promise you the dictionary definition of fascism isn’t “asking companies to combat misinformation”.

    I promise you that it is the government working with business to harass and silence the government's political opposition. Who decides what's "misinformation" Kobe? I recall the government telling me that Hunter's laptop wasn't real and that it was nothing more than Russian disinformation. And you being the good little fascist boot licker you are had no problem with big tech shutting that story down.

    Hell I recall when Tom Cotton was being accused of spreading "misinformation" when he said that we should look into the possibility that Covid resulted from a lab leak. I guess you would have applauded the government getting big tech to shut him down to, right Kobe?

    You spread real misinformation all the fucking time Kobe. When and if a Conservative President gets elected are you going to be so blase about them working with big tech to shut you and your fellow leftist bedwetters down?
    Well this is fascism and conservatives aren’t fascist so I have nothing to worry about, do I?
    Gotcha . . . Communism/Anarchy/Socialism good; National Socialism/Fascism bad.

    Using your own words: Explain to me the difference between the two as it effects ordinary citizens in a country.

    Hint: In either case, the citizen’s of a country are under authoritarian rule.

    Individual rights are limited, if available at all.

    Citizen’s are severely punished for violation of laws and clearly spelled out societal/communal norms by their authoritarian overlords (in either system).

    Both systems utilize propaganda and a highly organized network of spies to make sure their citizens comply and are severely punished when they don’t.

    Why is Communism/Anarchy preferable to Fascism?

    TKS: Go.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    SFGbob said:

    I promise you the dictionary definition of fascism isn’t “asking companies to combat misinformation”.


    Benito Mussolini

    “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”
    ― Benito Mussolini


    I promise you, Kobe is either a fucking moron or a liar. Take your pick Kobe.
    Fun fact-

    There’s actually no evidence of Mussolini ever writing or saying that. And even if he did, the word corporatism in Italian didn’t mean what we use it to mean.

    Embarrassing.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    trublue said:

    SFGbob said:

    I promise you the dictionary definition of fascism isn’t “asking companies to combat misinformation”.

    I promise you that it is the government working with business to harass and silence the government's political opposition. Who decides what's "misinformation" Kobe? I recall the government telling me that Hunter's laptop wasn't real and that it was nothing more than Russian disinformation. And you being the good little fascist boot licker you are had no problem with big tech shutting that story down.

    Hell I recall when Tom Cotton was being accused of spreading "misinformation" when he said that we should look into the possibility that Covid resulted from a lab leak. I guess you would have applauded the government getting big tech to shut him down to, right Kobe?

    You spread real misinformation all the fucking time Kobe. When and if a Conservative President gets elected are you going to be so blase about them working with big tech to shut you and your fellow leftist bedwetters down?
    Well this is fascism and conservatives aren’t fascist so I have nothing to worry about, do I?
    Gotcha . . . Communism/Anarchy/Socialism good; National Socialism/Fascism bad.

    Using your own words: Explain to me the difference between the two as it effects ordinary citizens in a country.

    Hint: In either case, the citizen’s of a country are under authoritarian rule.

    Individual rights are limited, if available at all.

    Citizen’s are severely punished for violation of laws and clearly spelled out societal/communal norms by their authoritarian overlords (in either system).

    Both systems utilize propaganda and a highly organized network of spies to make sure their citizens comply and are severely punished when they don’t.

    Why is Communism/Anarchy preferable to Fascism?

    TKS: Go.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    I promise you the dictionary definition of fascism isn’t “asking companies to combat misinformation”.


    Benito Mussolini

    “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”
    ― Benito Mussolini


    I promise you, Kobe is either a fucking moron or a liar. Take your pick Kobe.
    Fun fact-

    There’s actually no evidence of Mussolini ever writing or saying that. And even if he did, the word corporatism in Italian didn’t mean what we use it to mean.

    Embarrassing.
    Fun fact, you lick the boot of Fascism when it's your team that is engaging in the fascism. Corporate monopolies using their power at the request of and in support of the Government in order to censor and silence the political opposition to the government is the very definition of Fascism and you lick the fucking boot of it fraud.

    So which is it fraud, liar or moron?



  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042

    trublue said:

    SFGbob said:

    I promise you the dictionary definition of fascism isn’t “asking companies to combat misinformation”.

    I promise you that it is the government working with business to harass and silence the government's political opposition. Who decides what's "misinformation" Kobe? I recall the government telling me that Hunter's laptop wasn't real and that it was nothing more than Russian disinformation. And you being the good little fascist boot licker you are had no problem with big tech shutting that story down.

    Hell I recall when Tom Cotton was being accused of spreading "misinformation" when he said that we should look into the possibility that Covid resulted from a lab leak. I guess you would have applauded the government getting big tech to shut him down to, right Kobe?

    You spread real misinformation all the fucking time Kobe. When and if a Conservative President gets elected are you going to be so blase about them working with big tech to shut you and your fellow leftist bedwetters down?
    Well this is fascism and conservatives aren’t fascist so I have nothing to worry about, do I?
    Gotcha . . . Communism/Anarchy/Socialism good; National Socialism/Fascism bad.

    Using your own words: Explain to me the difference between the two as it effects ordinary citizens in a country.

    Hint: In either case, the citizen’s of a country are under authoritarian rule.

    Individual rights are limited, if available at all.

    Citizen’s are severely punished for violation of laws and clearly spelled out societal/communal norms by their authoritarian overlords (in either system).

    Both systems utilize propaganda and a highly organized network of spies to make sure their citizens comply and are severely punished when they don’t.

    Why is Communism/Anarchy preferable to Fascism?

    TKS: Go.

    Ask the Cuban people about their terrific free medical care, dumbfuck. I’m not talking about what the ruling elite get.

    Aspirin is considered medicine there.

    You get what you pay for.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,844 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    I promise you the dictionary definition of fascism isn’t “asking companies to combat misinformation”.


    Benito Mussolini

    “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”
    ― Benito Mussolini


    I promise you, Kobe is either a fucking moron or a liar. Take your pick Kobe.
    Abundance!
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    trublue said:

    trublue said:

    SFGbob said:

    I promise you the dictionary definition of fascism isn’t “asking companies to combat misinformation”.

    I promise you that it is the government working with business to harass and silence the government's political opposition. Who decides what's "misinformation" Kobe? I recall the government telling me that Hunter's laptop wasn't real and that it was nothing more than Russian disinformation. And you being the good little fascist boot licker you are had no problem with big tech shutting that story down.

    Hell I recall when Tom Cotton was being accused of spreading "misinformation" when he said that we should look into the possibility that Covid resulted from a lab leak. I guess you would have applauded the government getting big tech to shut him down to, right Kobe?

    You spread real misinformation all the fucking time Kobe. When and if a Conservative President gets elected are you going to be so blase about them working with big tech to shut you and your fellow leftist bedwetters down?
    Well this is fascism and conservatives aren’t fascist so I have nothing to worry about, do I?
    Gotcha . . . Communism/Anarchy/Socialism good; National Socialism/Fascism bad.

    Using your own words: Explain to me the difference between the two as it effects ordinary citizens in a country.

    Hint: In either case, the citizen’s of a country are under authoritarian rule.

    Individual rights are limited, if available at all.

    Citizen’s are severely punished for violation of laws and clearly spelled out societal/communal norms by their authoritarian overlords (in either system).

    Both systems utilize propaganda and a highly organized network of spies to make sure their citizens comply and are severely punished when they don’t.

    Why is Communism/Anarchy preferable to Fascism?

    TKS: Go.

    Ask the Cuban people about their terrific free medical care, dumbfuck. I’m not talking about what the ruling elite get.

    Aspirin is considered medicine there.

    You get what you pay for.
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/best-healthcare-in-the-world




  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    Talk to people who have visited family there

    trublue said:

    SFGbob said:

    I promise you the dictionary definition of fascism isn’t “asking companies to combat misinformation”.

    I promise you that it is the government working with business to harass and silence the government's political opposition. Who decides what's "misinformation" Kobe? I recall the government telling me that Hunter's laptop wasn't real and that it was nothing more than Russian disinformation. And you being the good little fascist boot licker you are had no problem with big tech shutting that story down.

    Hell I recall when Tom Cotton was being accused of spreading "misinformation" when he said that we should look into the possibility that Covid resulted from a lab leak. I guess you would have applauded the government getting big tech to shut him down to, right Kobe?

    You spread real misinformation all the fucking time Kobe. When and if a Conservative President gets elected are you going to be so blase about them working with big tech to shut you and your fellow leftist bedwetters down?
    Well this is fascism and conservatives aren’t fascist so I have nothing to worry about, do I?
    Gotcha . . . Communism/Anarchy/Socialism good; National Socialism/Fascism bad.

    Using your own words: Explain to me the difference between the two as it effects ordinary citizens in a country.

    Hint: In either case, the citizen’s of a country are under authoritarian rule.

    Individual rights are limited, if available at all.

    Citizen’s are severely punished for violation of laws and clearly spelled out societal/communal norms by their authoritarian overlords (in either system).

    Both systems utilize propaganda and a highly organized network of spies to make sure their citizens comply and are severely punished when they don’t.

    Why is Communism/Anarchy preferable to Fascism?

    TKS: Go.

    trublue said:

    SFGbob said:

    I promise you the dictionary definition of fascism isn’t “asking companies to combat misinformation”.

    I promise you that it is the government working with business to harass and silence the government's political opposition. Who decides what's "misinformation" Kobe? I recall the government telling me that Hunter's laptop wasn't real and that it was nothing more than Russian disinformation. And you being the good little fascist boot licker you are had no problem with big tech shutting that story down.

    Hell I recall when Tom Cotton was being accused of spreading "misinformation" when he said that we should look into the possibility that Covid resulted from a lab leak. I guess you would have applauded the government getting big tech to shut him down to, right Kobe?

    You spread real misinformation all the fucking time Kobe. When and if a Conservative President gets elected are you going to be so blase about them working with big tech to shut you and your fellow leftist bedwetters down?
    Well this is fascism and conservatives aren’t fascist so I have nothing to worry about, do I?
    Gotcha . . . Communism/Anarchy/Socialism good; National Socialism/Fascism bad.

    Using your own words: Explain to me the difference between the two as it effects ordinary citizens in a country.

    Hint: In either case, the citizen’s of a country are under authoritarian rule.

    Individual rights are limited, if available at all.

    Citizen’s are severely punished for violation of laws and clearly spelled out societal/communal norms by their authoritarian overlords (in either system).

    Both systems utilize propaganda and a highly organized network of spies to make sure their citizens comply and are severely punished when they don’t.

    Why is Communism/Anarchy preferable to Fascism?

    TKS: Go.

    Move to Cuba. I hear the healthcare is great.

    Why do Cubans traverse the shark-infested waters to get to Florida?

    Why aren't people risking their lives trying to get to Cuba (other than convicted cop killers)?
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,183 Founders Club

    trublue said:

    trublue said:

    SFGbob said:

    I promise you the dictionary definition of fascism isn’t “asking companies to combat misinformation”.

    I promise you that it is the government working with business to harass and silence the government's political opposition. Who decides what's "misinformation" Kobe? I recall the government telling me that Hunter's laptop wasn't real and that it was nothing more than Russian disinformation. And you being the good little fascist boot licker you are had no problem with big tech shutting that story down.

    Hell I recall when Tom Cotton was being accused of spreading "misinformation" when he said that we should look into the possibility that Covid resulted from a lab leak. I guess you would have applauded the government getting big tech to shut him down to, right Kobe?

    You spread real misinformation all the fucking time Kobe. When and if a Conservative President gets elected are you going to be so blase about them working with big tech to shut you and your fellow leftist bedwetters down?
    Well this is fascism and conservatives aren’t fascist so I have nothing to worry about, do I?
    Gotcha . . . Communism/Anarchy/Socialism good; National Socialism/Fascism bad.

    Using your own words: Explain to me the difference between the two as it effects ordinary citizens in a country.

    Hint: In either case, the citizen’s of a country are under authoritarian rule.

    Individual rights are limited, if available at all.

    Citizen’s are severely punished for violation of laws and clearly spelled out societal/communal norms by their authoritarian overlords (in either system).

    Both systems utilize propaganda and a highly organized network of spies to make sure their citizens comply and are severely punished when they don’t.

    Why is Communism/Anarchy preferable to Fascism?

    TKS: Go.

    Ask the Cuban people about their terrific free medical care, dumbfuck. I’m not talking about what the ruling elite get.

    Aspirin is considered medicine there.

    You get what you pay for.
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/best-healthcare-in-the-world




    Communists would never lie!
  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    edited July 2021
    Vladimir Lenin:
    PEACE
    BREAD
    LAND

    MURDER/PURGES
    FAMINE
    COLLECTIVIZATION OF ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY
    MISERY
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    God damn I fucking hate flying. Talk about facism.

    Should have ponied up the extra 200 bucks and taken jsx
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,268 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2021
    Hahaha is @TheKobeStopper peddling the Cuban healthcare myth in this thread?

    Cuba has three systems of care.

    Medical tourism(plastic surgery)

    Care for societal and governmental elites(basically on par with our current MediCare apparatus)

    Public care(total shit)

    This massive lie that Cuba has the best healthcare in the world is based 100% on statistics provided by a communist dictator’s regime. When journos from WaPo or the NYT visit Cuba to write glowingly about the HC system, they are not even allowed into the people’s hospitals.

    Stop believing this ridiculous shit, Kobe.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    I promise you the dictionary definition of fascism isn’t “asking companies to combat misinformation”.

    You do realize that there can be a slippery slope between misinformation and not agreeing with information?

    When you start making decisions on what speech is or isn’t allowed you might as well rip up the First Amendment
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    I promise you the dictionary definition of fascism isn’t “asking companies to combat misinformation”.

    Wikipedia can no longer be trusted as a source of unbiased information since the online encyclopedia's left-leaning volunteers cut out any news that doesn't fit their agenda, according to the site’s co-founder.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9793263/Nobody-trust-Wikipedia-founder-Larry-Sanger-warns.html