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Why Isn't There a Palestinian State?

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  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,238 Founders Club
    Occam's Razor. Then Israel would have to acknowledge they are occupying territory illegally under international law.

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,537 Founders Club
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Isreal offered Arabs a Palestinian State 5 separate times and the Arabs responded with rejection and violence?

    This should be taught in schools.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,416 Standard Supporter
    The area was originally called Judea for a reason. Lots of people don't seem to know that now a days.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,673 Standard Supporter
    "Palestine" was never Palestine. It was largely carved out of Egypt and Jordan. If the Arabs wanted and independent Palestine, they were free to do so. But like the democratic party uses blacks, they used "Palestinians" as part of their plan to wipe out the Jews. If the Arabs now in Gaza and the West Bank wanted a free, independent and safe state, they could have one tomorrow. But, they don't. They want the Jews dead and there is too much money to steal by blaming the Jews for their problems due to socialist corruption. When the Palis love their children more than they hate the Jews, then you can have peace. As it is, we are just waiting until the Jew haters push Israel to a breaking point and then Iran gets nuked and the Jews work on a final solution with their border with Lebanon and Gaza and the West Bank.

    http://ace.mu.nu/

    Golda Meir, in her book A Land of Our Own: An Oral Autobiography, spoke about the different ways in which the two parties viewed children during the imperialist Arabs' endless efforts to push the indigenous Jews out of their land.** Most people remember only the last sentence -- "Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us" -- but it's actually the preceding sentence that illuminates the vast moral chasm between Israelis and Arabs:
    When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons. Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.
    Now, though, a recording of a conversation between an Israel Defense Force soldier warning an Arab in Gaza to evacuate a building reveals that this understanding of the difference between Israelis and Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank isn't propaganda at all:

    Arab: I can't get all of the people out. I need at least two hours to get them out.
    IDF: Listen, we are going to bomb the building.

    Arab: You want to bomb? Bomb whatever you want.

    IDF: No, brother, we need to do everything we can so you don't die.

    Arab: We want to die.

    IDF: But you have a responsibility for children's lives.

    Arab: If the children need to die then they'll die.

    IDF: God forbid! God forbid! Why do you want to die?

    Arab: This is how we reveal your cruelty.


  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,930
    I was told that Prager U lies and is full of shit so I didn't watch it.
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 11,953
    Much of the land which now makes up Israel was sold to the Jews by Arabs who owned it, piece by piece over many years starting in the 1800's. The Arabs also got fucked up in the Six Day War of 1967. To the victors go the spoils. Someone else noted in another thread, correctly, that none of the other Arab states want the Palestinians.

    Why isn't there a Palestine? Because the Palestinians and their handlers don't want their own state. They want to destroy the Jews same as always over the past few thousand years.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,930

    Much of the land which now makes up Israel was sold to the Jews by Arabs who owned it, piece by piece over many years starting in the 1800's. The Arabs also got fucked up in the Six Day War of 1967. To the victors go the spoils. Someone else noted in another thread, correctly, that none of the other Arab states want the Palestinians.

    Why isn't there a Palestine? Because the Palestinians and their handlers don't want their own state. They want to destroy the Jews same as always over the past few thousand years.

    Yep, and it's the reason why it's now punishable by death to sell any land to any Israeli.

    PA affirms death penalty for land sales to Israelis
    The PA says the land law is necessary to prevent the expansion of Jewish settlements in the West Bank and east Jerusalem.


    https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/pa-affirms-death-penalty-for-land-sales-to-israelis

    But hey, the two sides are moral equals, in fact it's Israel that's really the bad guys.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,068
    Palestinians may well be the shittiest people in the world.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,930

    Palestinians may well be the shittiest people in the world.

    Tough competition but I’d put them in the top 5
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886

    Much of the land which now makes up Israel was sold to the Jews by Arabs who owned it, piece by piece over many years starting in the 1800's. The Arabs also got fucked up in the Six Day War of 1967. To the victors go the spoils. Someone else noted in another thread, correctly, that none of the other Arab states want the Palestinians.

    Why isn't there a Palestine? Because the Palestinians and their handlers don't want their own state. They want to destroy the Jews same as always over the past few thousand years.

    Sounds like the Palestinians are the Salvadorans of the Middle East.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886

    Good stuff. If anyone wants a quality, concise cliff note version of the conflict. Take 5 and click that.
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