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Fed Warns of Water being potentially very wet

creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,668
edited May 2022 in Tug Tavern
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/06/fed-warns-of-possible-significant-declines-in-stocks-as-valuations-climb.html


Fed Chairman Jerome Powell and others have been asked repeatedly about whether they’re concerned over the rising prices. Powell specifically has said that as long as interest rates stay low, the valuations are justified.

“High asset prices in part reflect the continued low level of Treasury yields. However, valuations for some assets are elevated relative to historical norms even when using measures that account for Treasury yields,” the report states. “In this setting, asset prices may be vulnerable to significant declines should risk appetite fall.”

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  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,520
    With our debt level, don’t expect interest rates to rise much
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,668

    With our debt level, don’t expect interest rates to rise much

    I don't think they can do it because they can't control the outcome. It would crater the market bigly.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,520

    I don't think they can do it because they can't control the outcome. It would crater the market bigly.
    The government is hoping a recovery can put a band aid over the rising inflation. Something has to give. Either inflation or interest rates. I think rising inflation can be tolerated more than rising interests rates at this point. That’s why crypto and precious metals have hit at or close to record highs.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,668

    The government is hoping a recovery can put a band aid over the rising inflation. Something has to give. Either inflation or interest rates. I think rising inflation can be tolerated more than rising interests rates at this point. That’s why crypto and precious metals have hit at or close to record highs.
    Especially given the role of housing in our economy. It feeds so many industries. Housing tanks on rising interest rates.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,520

    Especially given the role of housing in our economy. It feeds so many industries. Housing tanks on rising interest rates.
    When the government has to use fiscal jiu jitsu to keep the market from tanking, you know the bottom is about to fall.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,261 Founders Club
    edited May 2021

    I know. But we’ve been saying this since ... I’ve lost track of when.

    @HoustonHusky @pawz

    * AHEM *
  • AtomicPissAtomicPiss Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,523 Founders Club
    edited May 2021

    I know. But we’ve been saying this since ... I’ve lost track of when.

    @HoustonHusky @pawz
    I remember reading Aftershock in 2012 and it was saying they felt bad for whichever president won the 2012 election, because they would be presiding over the biggest economic collapse in history.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,995

    When the government has to use fiscal jiu jitsu to keep the market from tanking, you know the bottom is about to fall.
    Agree 100% with this, but still think the party is a bit early on the jiu jitsu...its like when you were young and playing the field and just realizing there are some truly batshit crazy women out there. We are looking for our next Sonjas...

    As an example, I’m just waiting for the government response to inflation being more govt handouts and larger deficits/printing of money....you know, truly crazy shit any 2 year old would think is stupid and any Federal Reserve banker and politician will rationalize away...maybe some attempting to regulate rents and prices or some really stupid shit.

    That said, the ARKK chart is truly nasty...
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    edited May 2021

    I know. But we’ve been saying this since ... I’ve lost track of when.

    @HoustonHusky @pawz
    So far fed is undefeated
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,995
    FireCohen said:

    So far fed is undefeated
    Get enough of a drop and they may go all Japan on us and start printing money to buy Index funds outright. True comedy would be the Fed printing money and using some to buy ARKK...you can’t get much more Zimbabwe than that...
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,668

    Get enough of a drop and they may go all Japan on us and start printing money to buy Index funds outright. True comedy would be the Fed printing money and using some to buy ARKK...you can’t get much more Zimbabwe than that...
    A country that has never quite fully recovered from their economis dive.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,812 Standard Supporter
    FireCohen said:

    So far fed is undefeated
    Obi Wan is betting against the Fed and giving the points.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,668
    edited May 2021
    pawz said:


    * AHEM *
    One of the many benefits of my new great powers ... the time machine.
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