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  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,511
    TTJ said:

    2022: Smalls, Martin, Trice, Lolohea, Tunuufi, Heims, Hopkins, McDonald. And this assumes the All-American, ZTF, leaves early. I dearly wish Latu didn’t have to retire. But I’m not sure I’m seeing a crisis here.

    Carson Bruener was also moved to OLB pre-spring.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,209

    TTJ said:

    2022: Smalls, Martin, Trice, Lolohea, Tunuufi, Heims, Hopkins, McDonald. And this assumes the All-American, ZTF, leaves early. I dearly wish Latu didn’t have to retire. But I’m not sure I’m seeing a crisis here.

    No one player is ever a crisis. But the trend is there. We're losing top-end talent and aren't replacing it with commensurate recruiting classes. We've already lost, we're just waiting to see it all materialize.
    Our best team in 20 years was Browning and a bunch of 3 stars

    Relax
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,633 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    FireCohen said:

    This really sucks and I feel for the kid

    That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at that position.

    Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck
    The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

    Still brutal.
    Smalls will be good. Bowman is quality depth. We added Martin. Trice hasn't portalled yet that I recall.

    They should be good this year.

    2022 with no ZTF or Bowman could be a little scary.
    Trice finally up an extra 15lbs. He's 6'4" 255 now. If he sees the field at all this year I would be encouraged with his development. Flashing as a RS soph and playing regularly as a RS junior would be fine for a kid who we knew needed time to gain weight. Just need to see that flash.
  • louism2wash
    louism2wash Member Posts: 366
    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    FireCohen said:

    This really sucks and I feel for the kid

    That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at that position.

    Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck
    The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

    Still brutal.
    Smalls will be good. Bowman is quality depth. We added Martin. Trice hasn't portalled yet that I recall.

    They should be good this year.

    2022 with no ZTF or Bowman could be a little scary.
    We also have Jordan Lolohea as a 20 year old after serving his Mormon mission. I really liked his film out of high school.

    https://www.hudl.com/video/3/3016122/58410d28c124dd21c8ac0e61
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    TTJ said:

    2022: Smalls, Martin, Trice, Lolohea, Tunuufi, Heims, Hopkins, McDonald. And this assumes the All-American, ZTF, leaves early. I dearly wish Latu didn’t have to retire. But I’m not sure I’m seeing a crisis here.

    No one player is ever a crisis. But the trend is there. We're losing top-end talent and aren't replacing it with commensurate recruiting classes. We've already lost, we're just waiting to see it all materialize.
    Our best team in 20 years was Browning and a bunch of 3 stars

    Relax
    Virta Vea was a 3-star but you already knew that.
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,763
    dnc said:

    To be honest ... we know why Martin is here Obviously Kim and Lake knew this

    Kim?
    Kim G
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,889 Founders Club
    chuck said:

    Baseman said:

    TTJ said:

    2022: Smalls, Martin, Trice, Lolohea, Tunuufi, Heims, Hopkins, McDonald. And this assumes the All-American, ZTF, leaves early. I dearly wish Latu didn’t have to retire. But I’m not sure I’m seeing a crisis here.

    No one player is ever a crisis. But the trend is there. We're losing top-end talent and aren't replacing it with commensurate recruiting classes. We've already lost, we're just waiting to see it all materialize.
    Our best team in 20 years was Browning and a bunch of 3 stars

    Relax
    Virta Vea was a 3-star but you already knew that.
    As was Sydney Jones, Kevin King, Gaines, both ILB, Pettis, Gaskin...

    Many of those guys are in or had their cup off coffee in the NFL. They were underrated talents.

    Unless someone can point to all the underrated 3* guys Jimmy is signing who are future draft picks, they shouldn't point to that as evidence in this argument.
    *until
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,679 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    Baseman said:

    TTJ said:

    2022: Smalls, Martin, Trice, Lolohea, Tunuufi, Heims, Hopkins, McDonald. And this assumes the All-American, ZTF, leaves early. I dearly wish Latu didn’t have to retire. But I’m not sure I’m seeing a crisis here.

    No one player is ever a crisis. But the trend is there. We're losing top-end talent and aren't replacing it with commensurate recruiting classes. We've already lost, we're just waiting to see it all materialize.
    Our best team in 20 years was Browning and a bunch of 3 stars

    Relax
    Virta Vea was a 3-star but you already knew that.
    As was Sydney Jones, Kevin King, Gaines, both ILB, Pettis, Gaskin...

    Many of those guys are in or had their cup off coffee in the NFL. They were underrated talents.

    Unless someone can point to all the underrated 3* guys Jimmy is signing who are future draft picks, they shouldn't point to that as evidence in this argument.
    *until
    It may surprise you to know that I actually love that answer.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    chuck said:

    FireCohen said:

    This really sucks and I feel for the kid

    That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at that position.

    Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck
    The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

    Still brutal.
    wow u guys are fucking optimistic
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    FireCohen said:

    This really sucks and I feel for the kid

    That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at that position.

    Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck
    The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

    Still brutal.
    Smalls will be good. Bowman is quality depth. We added Martin. Trice hasn't portalled yet that I recall.

    They should be good this year.

    2022 with no ZTF or Bowman could be a little scary.
    Trice finally up an extra 15lbs. He's 6'4" 255 now. If he sees the field at all this year I would be encouraged with his development. Flashing as a RS soph and playing regularly as a RS junior would be fine for a kid who we knew needed time to gain weight. Just need to see that flash.
    Could be wrong but with the way last year went didn’t that effectively pause everybody’s clocks?
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    edited April 2021

    TTJ said:

    2022: Smalls, Martin, Trice, Lolohea, Tunuufi, Heims, Hopkins, McDonald. And this assumes the All-American, ZTF, leaves early. I dearly wish Latu didn’t have to retire. But I’m not sure I’m seeing a crisis here.

    No one player is ever a crisis. But the trend is there. We're losing top-end talent and aren't replacing it with commensurate recruiting classes. We've already lost, we're just waiting to see it all materialize.
    Our best team in 20 years was Browning and a bunch of 3 stars

    Relax
    And our higher rated classes have produced much worse teams since then. What are we relaxing about?
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    FireCohen said:

    chuck said:

    FireCohen said:

    This really sucks and I feel for the kid

    That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at that position.

    Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck
    The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

    Still brutal.
    wow u guys are fucking optimistic
    ZTF balled out. Bowman has always been more than solid. Smalls has big time potential. Those three and Martin make a decent group. They could even be special.
    I think Martin might be a bust. We have like 3 or 4 guys. Depth is pretty low.
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,633 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    FireCohen said:

    This really sucks and I feel for the kid

    That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at that position.

    Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck
    The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

    Still brutal.
    Smalls will be good. Bowman is quality depth. We added Martin. Trice hasn't portalled yet that I recall.

    They should be good this year.

    2022 with no ZTF or Bowman could be a little scary.
    Trice finally up an extra 15lbs. He's 6'4" 255 now. If he sees the field at all this year I would be encouraged with his development. Flashing as a RS soph and playing regularly as a RS junior would be fine for a kid who we knew needed time to gain weight. Just need to see that flash.
    Could be wrong but with the way last year went didn’t that effectively pause everybody’s clocks?
    You are correct. I'm just of a mind that barring injury if a kid gets a positive draft grade in his fifth year he probably isn't coming back for a sixth so I just ran with the traditional clock.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    FireCohen said:

    FireCohen said:

    chuck said:

    FireCohen said:

    This really sucks and I feel for the kid

    That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at that position.

    Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck
    The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

    Still brutal.
    wow u guys are fucking optimistic
    ZTF balled out. Bowman has always been more than solid. Smalls has big time potential. Those three and Martin make a decent group. They could even be special.
    I think Martin might be a bust. We have like 3 or 4 guys. Depth is pretty low.
    As @TTJ noted 2022 isn't as thin as I was thinking: Smalls, Martin, Trice, Lolohea, Tunuufi, Heims, Hopkins, McDonald. Plus Bruener.

    And 2021 is obviously far deeper than that.

    Lolohea could be a real difference maker, I'm excited to see the 22 year old freshman.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    FireCohen said:

    This really sucks and I feel for the kid

    That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at that position.

    Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck
    The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

    Still brutal.
    Smalls will be good. Bowman is quality depth. We added Martin. Trice hasn't portalled yet that I recall.

    They should be good this year.

    2022 with no ZTF or Bowman could be a little scary.
    Trice finally up an extra 15lbs. He's 6'4" 255 now. If he sees the field at all this year I would be encouraged with his development. Flashing as a RS soph and playing regularly as a RS junior would be fine for a kid who we knew needed time to gain weight. Just need to see that flash.
    Could be wrong but with the way last year went didn’t that effectively pause everybody’s clocks?
    You are correct. I'm just of a mind that barring injury if a kid gets a positive draft grade in his fifth year he probably isn't coming back for a sixth so I just ran with the traditional clock.
    Agree
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    dnc said:

    FireCohen said:

    FireCohen said:

    chuck said:

    FireCohen said:

    This really sucks and I feel for the kid

    That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at that position.

    Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck
    The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

    Still brutal.
    wow u guys are fucking optimistic
    ZTF balled out. Bowman has always been more than solid. Smalls has big time potential. Those three and Martin make a decent group. They could even be special.
    I think Martin might be a bust. We have like 3 or 4 guys. Depth is pretty low.
    As @TTJ noted 2022 isn't as thin as I was thinking: Smalls, Martin, Trice, Lolohea, Tunuufi, Heims, Hopkins, McDonald. Plus Bruener.

    And 2021 is obviously far deeper than that.

    Lolohea could be a real difference maker, I'm excited to see the 22 year old freshman.
    I think Lolohea going to good but he is going to play on the inside
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,889 Founders Club


    TTJ said:

    2022: Smalls, Martin, Trice, Lolohea, Tunuufi, Heims, Hopkins, McDonald. And this assumes the All-American, ZTF, leaves early. I dearly wish Latu didn’t have to retire. But I’m not sure I’m seeing a crisis here.

    No one player is ever a crisis. But the trend is there. We're losing top-end talent and aren't replacing it with commensurate recruiting classes. We've already lost, we're just waiting to see it all materialize.
    Our best team in 20 years was Browning and a bunch of 3 stars

    Relax
    And our higher rated classes have produced much worse teams since then. What are we relaxing about?
    Petersen being gone
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,722 Founders Club
    edited April 2021

    FireCohen said:

    chuck said:

    FireCohen said:

    This really sucks and I feel for the kid

    That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at that position.

    Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck
    The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

    Still brutal.
    wow u guys are fucking optimistic
    ZTF balled out. Bowman has always been more than solid. Smalls has big time potential. Those three and Martin make a decent group. They could even be special.
    We all thought Mathis was special for 2-4 games so I'm going to doog for this group.

    That's a sick unit in any conference.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    FireCohen said:

    This really sucks and I feel for the kid

    That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at that position.

    Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck
    The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

    Still brutal.
    Smalls will be good. Bowman is quality depth. We added Martin. Trice hasn't portalled yet that I recall.

    They should be good this year.

    2022 with no ZTF or Bowman could be a little scary.
    Hmmmmm

  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,209
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    FireCohen said:

    This really sucks and I feel for the kid

    That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at that position.

    Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck
    The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

    Still brutal.
    Smalls will be good. Bowman is quality depth. We added Martin. Trice hasn't portalled yet that I recall.

    They should be good this year.

    2022 with no ZTF or Bowman could be a little scary.
    Hmmmmm

    shades of James Atoe top 5 draft pick
  • louism2wash
    louism2wash Member Posts: 366
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    FireCohen said:

    This really sucks and I feel for the kid

    That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at that position.

    Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck
    The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

    Still brutal.
    Smalls will be good. Bowman is quality depth. We added Martin. Trice hasn't portalled yet that I recall.

    They should be good this year.

    2022 with no ZTF or Bowman could be a little scary.
    Hmmmmm

    He had an Alabama offer out of high school. I think this guy has a similar body type to Tryon and, coming out of high school, was much more coordinated.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    FireCohen said:

    This really sucks and I feel for the kid

    That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at that position.

    Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck
    The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

    Still brutal.
    Smalls will be good. Bowman is quality depth. We added Martin. Trice hasn't portalled yet that I recall.

    They should be good this year.

    2022 with no ZTF or Bowman could be a little scary.
    Hmmmmm

    shades of James Atoe top 5 draft pick
    Fuck your 17 minutes. In that other thread...