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This right here from our beautiful savage:1to392831weretaken said:
Mattawa and Vantage are the same riding area. Bridgeport it is!PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber is not wed to Vantage.1to392831weretaken said:
Bullshit, I ride there sometimes!creepycoug said:You guys realize if we don’t solve this then we have to go with @PurpleThrobber and Vantage.
Mattawa and Bridgeport are equally as godforsaken.
Drug addicts need dry out and counseling. Mentally ill need medicine, counseling, or institutionalization in some cases. Lazy people need need a swift kick in the ass.
Sort and separate as @PurpleThrobber suggests. As to the % we've ID'd as "I just like doing this," I also think those guys had something befall them in life. If you go back and have access to their histories, I'd bet 99/100 you'd find some trauma/tragedy/massive error/etc. and they just lacked the constitution to work through it.
Imagine, for example, getting canned for something, and losing your savings and having a hard time replacing it. Add in some humiliation, guilt for failing your family, etc. etc. etc. Some people might just fucking snap. I can stretch my imagination enough to think, yeah, that kind of thing happens to you, you spend a few weeks outside, you start self-medicating, etc. and now all of sudden you think, "You know what? This isn't bad. I'm never hungry, I found a place to stay dry and reasonably warm, and, this is the key part, I'm fucking free! Free of responsibility, nobody calls, nobody needs me, I'm not on the hook for shit. I'll never disappoint anyone or fail like that again because I'm a fucking nomad now."
Seriously. Maybe not in a few weeks, but a few months? Shit yeah. The human brain is a crazy bitch. She can convince you of any-fucking-thing she wants to. Including, "Yeah, I really want to live like this." -
Taking care of the mentally ill should be a no brainer. Regardless of your politics these are people who through no fault of their own have been dealt a shit hand. But we have to come to a consensus that even if you're mentally ill, you do not have a right to live and sleep and shit on the streets. We have to be willing to remove these people and institutionalize them. What we are doing now with the mentally ill isn't compassionate and letting people live on the streets because we have an aversion to taking away their "rights" is just another form of insanity.creepycoug said:
This right here from our beautiful savage:1to392831weretaken said:
Mattawa and Vantage are the same riding area. Bridgeport it is!PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber is not wed to Vantage.1to392831weretaken said:
Bullshit, I ride there sometimes!creepycoug said:You guys realize if we don’t solve this then we have to go with @PurpleThrobber and Vantage.
Mattawa and Bridgeport are equally as godforsaken.
Drug addicts need dry out and counseling. Mentally ill need medicine, counseling, or institutionalization in some cases. Lazy people need need a swift kick in the ass.
Sort and separate as @PurpleThrobber suggests. As to the % we've ID'd as "I just like doing this," I also think those guys had something befall them in life. If you go back and have access to their histories, I'd bet 99/100 you'd find some trauma/tragedy/massive error/etc. and they just lacked the constitution to work through it.
Imagine, for example, getting canned for something, and losing your savings and having a hard time replacing it. Add in some humiliation, guilt for failing your family, etc. etc. etc. Some people might just fucking snap. I can stretch my imagination enough to think, yeah, that kind of thing happens to you, you spend a few weeks outside, you start self-medicating, etc. and now all of sudden you think, "You know what? This isn't bad. I'm never hungry, I found a place to stay dry and reasonably warm, and, this is the key part, I'm fucking free! Free of responsibility, nobody calls, nobody needs me, I'm not on the hook for shit. I'll never disappoint anyone or fail like that again because I'm a fucking nomad now."
Seriously. Maybe not in a few weeks, but a few months? Shit yeah. The human brain is a crazy bitch. She can convince you of any-fucking-thing she wants to. Including, "Yeah, I really want to live like this."
Also we need to realize that many of these people will never be "cured" and they will be wards of the state their entire life. -
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I knew this place was for Fags.Swaye said: -
Obviously the Dazzler and I don't agree on much politically but sweet Geezus we should be able to come to some consensus on what to do with the mentally ill.
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Kumbaya, mother fuckers!
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Also we need to realize that many of these people will never be "cured" and they will be wards of the state their entire life.
And that's why I'm calling for a Final Solution to deal with the mentally ill homeless problem once and for all!!!
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100%. I'm guessing, only guessing, that it's a weird mix of left-wing statists who all of a sudden care about civil liberties when it comes to these people, and just plain old bleeding hearts that want to deal with them with kid gloves.SFGbob said:
Taking care of the mentally ill should be a no brainer. Regardless of your politics these are people who through no fault of their own have been dealt a shit hand. But we have to come to a consensus that even if you're mentally ill, you do not have a right to live and sleep and shit on the streets. We have to be willing to remove these people and institutionalize them. What we are doing now with the mentally ill isn't compassionate and letting people live on the streets because we have an aversion to taking away their "rights" is just another form of insanity.creepycoug said:
This right here from our beautiful savage:1to392831weretaken said:
Mattawa and Vantage are the same riding area. Bridgeport it is!PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber is not wed to Vantage.1to392831weretaken said:
Bullshit, I ride there sometimes!creepycoug said:You guys realize if we don’t solve this then we have to go with @PurpleThrobber and Vantage.
Mattawa and Bridgeport are equally as godforsaken.
Drug addicts need dry out and counseling. Mentally ill need medicine, counseling, or institutionalization in some cases. Lazy people need need a swift kick in the ass.
Sort and separate as @PurpleThrobber suggests. As to the % we've ID'd as "I just like doing this," I also think those guys had something befall them in life. If you go back and have access to their histories, I'd bet 99/100 you'd find some trauma/tragedy/massive error/etc. and they just lacked the constitution to work through it.
Imagine, for example, getting canned for something, and losing your savings and having a hard time replacing it. Add in some humiliation, guilt for failing your family, etc. etc. etc. Some people might just fucking snap. I can stretch my imagination enough to think, yeah, that kind of thing happens to you, you spend a few weeks outside, you start self-medicating, etc. and now all of sudden you think, "You know what? This isn't bad. I'm never hungry, I found a place to stay dry and reasonably warm, and, this is the key part, I'm fucking free! Free of responsibility, nobody calls, nobody needs me, I'm not on the hook for shit. I'll never disappoint anyone or fail like that again because I'm a fucking nomad now."
Seriously. Maybe not in a few weeks, but a few months? Shit yeah. The human brain is a crazy bitch. She can convince you of any-fucking-thing she wants to. Including, "Yeah, I really want to live like this."
Also we need to realize that many of these people will never be "cured" and they will be wards of the state their entire life.
I used to love downtown Seattle and Portland. I'm a guy who likes the urban scene. I haven't been to Portland in a year and half and though I have an office in DT Seattle, I only go once every two or three months ... tops. It's a ghost town and the longer they leave it alone, like cancer the more it will spread. Used to be a mostly south part of DT problem ... King County courthouse, Pioneer Square/Occidental Park issue. Then, even before COVID, it was all over Belltown on the north end, creeping up to lower Queen Anne south, and that whole area around the Key. And of course all over Capital Hill and especially all along the freeway. It takes less time to type out which areas in downtown are not overrun with it. No place is completely clear of it. If you haven't been to Seattle in a while, I'll tell you: it's hardly recognizable. Recent articles put the city's annual spend on homelessness at over $1 billion.



