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Rich People Leaving California Isn't What You Think

creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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edited May 2022 in Tug Tavern
Or so says this guy. Chinteresting take on what is an obvious trend. Wouldn't it be cool if enough of them left to make it semi-affordable again? What is always left out of these discussions is the physical appeal of California. It's a great place geographically. Beautiful, great weather, etc. Fuck if enough tech rolled out to Texas or wherever, and made Marin or Orange counties semi-affordable, I'd go. WTF not? Who doesn't want to live in Laguna Niguel? Seriously it's the shit.


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/why-rich-people-leaving-california-isnt-what-you-think-130327533.html
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,609
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    creepycoug said:

    Or so says this guy. Chinteresting take on what is an obvious trend. Wouldn't it be cool if enough of them left to make it semi-affordable again? What is always left out of these discussions is the physical appeal of California. It's a great place geographically. Beautiful, great weather, etc. Fuck if enough tech rolled out to Texas or wherever, and made Marin or Orange counties semi-affordable, I'd go. WTF not? Who doesn't want to live in Laguna Niguel? Seriously it's the shit.


    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/why-rich-people-leaving-california-isnt-what-you-think-130327533.html

    They ignore this obvious fact and say that wealthy people live there because of the progressive politics.
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    FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
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    creepycoug said:

    RaceBannon said:

    A crisp 79 degree February day here

    I know of no other place where you can snow ski in the morning and be at the beach in the late afternoon.
    If you rich and got a helicopter I can think of few places lol
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,609
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    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    RaceBannon said:

    A crisp 79 degree February day here

    I know of no other place where you can snow ski in the morning and be at the beach in the late afternoon.
    The skiing is mostly shit. Mammoth is the closest real skiing.
    Utah/colorado or bust. Wack skiing is not worth it at all imo
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    HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 4,528
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    I read the same article and smirked at the last quote, a former Clinton official working in Newsom's office haha.

    California will still have population problems as there are 2+ million illegal immigrants living there and it is a popular place for people moving from Asia or buying 2nd homes.

    The biggest problem may be the growth of their State and local governments at all levels. Once you are paying lifeguards $100k a year in retirement at 50, it's really hard to get rid of that kind of spending so taxes / bloat marches ever higher.
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,084
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    Pitchfork51 said:

    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    RaceBannon said:

    A crisp 79 degree February day here

    I know of no other place where you can snow ski in the morning and be at the beach in the late afternoon.
    The skiing is mostly shit. Mammoth is the closest real skiing.
    Utah/colorado or bust. Wack skiing is not worth it at all imo
    Utah is the most consistent in the country. But CA has epic skiing at times. Mammoth can be an incredible mountain.
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,875
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    All this hate speach re skiing.

    I'm shaking and about to vomit.

    Derek !!

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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,609
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    YellowSnow said:

    Pitchfork51 said:

    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    RaceBannon said:

    A crisp 79 degree February day here

    I know of no other place where you can snow ski in the morning and be at the beach in the late afternoon.
    The skiing is mostly shit. Mammoth is the closest real skiing.
    Utah/colorado or bust. Wack skiing is not worth it at all imo
    Utah is the most consistent in the country. But CA has epic skiing at times. Mammoth can be an incredible mountain.
    I went once in college. It was pretty solid. Went up to Brian head utah a couple weeks ago and it was epic. A bit scary getting up the mountain when it was snowing like crazy though.

    My uncle had a place in Tahoe for most of my years growing up. Always wanted to go up there winter but never did. Also never went in the summer every year when my family conveniently went right when I was at either football or baseball camp. After the 8th year in a row I was like wtf guys.

    His family started maybelline so his sister and husband like owned the marina there. Not sure if they still do. The whole family pissed their money away gambling and shit.
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    GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
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    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    RaceBannon said:

    A crisp 79 degree February day here

    I know of no other place where you can snow ski in the morning and be at the beach in the late afternoon.
    The skiing is mostly shit. Mammoth is the closest real skiing.
    I assume you're isolating this to SoCal? Unless you have some kind of Tahoe animus I'm unaware of.

    I won't claim to have ever skied in SoCal, because why the fuck would I? Is Bear Mountain even halfway tolerable?
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,293
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    creepycoug said:

    RaceBannon said:

    A crisp 79 degree February day here

    I know of no other place where you can snow ski in the morning and be at the beach in the late afternoon.
    The Alki Beach Community Association would like a word.
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,084
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    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    RaceBannon said:

    A crisp 79 degree February day here

    I know of no other place where you can snow ski in the morning and be at the beach in the late afternoon.
    The skiing is mostly shit. Mammoth is the closest real skiing.
    I assume you're isolating this to SoCal? Unless you have some kind of Tahoe animus I'm unaware of.

    I won't claim to have ever skied in SoCal, because why the fuck would I? Is Bear Mountain even halfway tolerable?
    So Cal skiing is twash as fuck. Every so often a place like Baldy ski lifts can get dumped on but it’s rare. North California has great skiing in a good winter.
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    Doog_de_Jour said:

    HFNY said:

    I read the same article and smirked at the last quote, a former Clinton official working in Newsom's office haha.

    California will still have population problems as there are 2+ million illegal immigrants living there and it is a popular place for people moving from Asia or buying 2nd homes.

    The biggest problem may be the growth of their State and local governments at all levels. Once you are paying lifeguards $100k a year in retirement at 50, it's really hard to get rid of that kind of spending so taxes / bloat marches ever higher.

    Yup. People will always want to live in California and NYC. *Who* those people are will change.

    I honestly think it’s good for the country as a whole that more tech workers and tech jobs are moving to different areas. Diversity is a good thing.
    I agree in that a lower cost of living but same salary would mean greater purchasing power would spread the prosperity in more places. I hope to see more tech and other businesses in places like Spokane.

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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,306
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    pawz said:

    All this hate speach re skiing.

    I'm shaking and about to vomit.

    Derek !!


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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,980
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    edited February 2021
    HFNY said:

    Doog_de_Jour said:

    HFNY said:

    I read the same article and smirked at the last quote, a former Clinton official working in Newsom's office haha.

    California will still have population problems as there are 2+ million illegal immigrants living there and it is a popular place for people moving from Asia or buying 2nd homes.

    The biggest problem may be the growth of their State and local governments at all levels. Once you are paying lifeguards $100k a year in retirement at 50, it's really hard to get rid of that kind of spending so taxes / bloat marches ever higher.

    Yup. People will always want to live in California and NYC. *Who* those people are will change.

    I honestly think it’s good for the country as a whole that more tech workers and tech jobs are moving to different areas. Diversity is a good thing.
    I agree in that a lower cost of living but same salary would mean greater purchasing power would spread the prosperity in more places. I hope to see more tech and other businesses in places like Spokane.

    https://www.krem.com/article/money/consumer/north-idaho-real-estate-market/293-2b421700-5aef-4f8d-99db-6be908f804be

    https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/jan/12/it-performed-better-than-we-thought-spokane-county/

    Get them while they're hot. Not gonna last long. Spokane isn't any different.


    There are currently 13 stick built homes in Post Falls and Coeur d'Alene has 22, she said. In January 2020, Post Falls had 215 homes on the market. In January 2021, there were 63.

    The lowest price in Post Falls is $425,000 and in Coeur d'Alene is $312,000. A house in the $300,000 range is a rarity and the next lowest price after is $525,000, she showed.


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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,084
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    PurpleThrobber said:

    HFNY said:

    Doog_de_Jour said:

    HFNY said:

    I read the same article and smirked at the last quote, a former Clinton official working in Newsom's office haha.

    California will still have population problems as there are 2+ million illegal immigrants living there and it is a popular place for people moving from Asia or buying 2nd homes.

    The biggest problem may be the growth of their State and local governments at all levels. Once you are paying lifeguards $100k a year in retirement at 50, it's really hard to get rid of that kind of spending so taxes / bloat marches ever higher.

    Yup. People will always want to live in California and NYC. *Who* those people are will change.

    I honestly think it’s good for the country as a whole that more tech workers and tech jobs are moving to different areas. Diversity is a good thing.
    I agree in that a lower cost of living but same salary would mean greater purchasing power would spread the prosperity in more places. I hope to see more tech and other businesses in places like Spokane.

    https://www.krem.com/article/money/consumer/north-idaho-real-estate-market/293-2b421700-5aef-4f8d-99db-6be908f804be

    https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/jan/12/it-performed-better-than-we-thought-spokane-county/

    Get them while they're hot. Not gonna last long. Spokane isn't any different.


    There are currently 13 stick built homes in Post Falls and Coeur d'Alene has 22, she said. In January 2020, Post Falls had 215 homes on the market. In January 2021, there were 63.

    The lowest price in Post Falls is $425,000 and in Coeur d'Alene is $312,000. A house in the $300,000 range is a rarity and the next lowest price after is $525,000, she showed.


    $425k ? Good god. You can buy that working at Walmart almost.
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