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The Greatest American General of All Time?

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  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,518 Founders Club
    edited January 2021
    Patton


    Honorable mention for the guy that can save you money and time
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,702 Founders Club
    Grant
    JoeEDangerously said:



    Honorable mention for the guy that can save you money and time

    This guy has the incorrect 5 star rank on his helmet.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,784 Founders Club
    Worshington
    Mad_Son said:

    YellowSnow said:

    JoeEDangerously said:



    Honorable mention for the guy that can save you money and time

    This guy has the incorrect 5 star rank on his helmet.
    Interesting observation. I'm beginning to suspect he may not be a real general.
    I assumed he was a member of The Village People
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,702 Founders Club
    edited January 2021
    Grant
    RaceBannon said:

    By WW2 the American military was like Secretariat, a tremendous machine. Generals were CEOs and @Logistics was on a global scale. There were thousands of staff doing the grunt work

    Washington and Grant et al were more of a one man show

    To add to @RaceBannon 's point...

    Ike clearly got the job done, but it you had subbed in another figure I don't know that the outcome looks much different. We still beat the Nazis.

    I don't think you can say that about Washington or Grant. W/o either of those guysm being the man of the hour, I don't know that we? win.

    I still rank Grant ahead of Washington, because George fucked up in the summer of 1776 and damn near lost the war. Furthermore, his greatest victory at Yorktown was the ultimate case of it being better to be lucky than good. It was miracle that the French navy didn't fuck up and got to the Chesapeake before the Royal Navy. I mean how often did the French beat the British at sea?
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,702 Founders Club
    edited January 2021
    Grant
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    By WW2 the American military was like Secretariat, a tremendous machine. Generals were CEOs and @Logistics was on a global scale. There were thousands of staff doing the grunt work

    Washington and Grant et al were more of a one man show

    To add to @RaceBannon 's point...

    Ike clearly got the job done, but it you had subbed in another figure I don't know that the outcome looks much different. We still beat the Nazis.

    I don't think you can say that about Washington or Grant. W/o either of those guysm being the man of the hour, I don't know that we? win.

    I still rank Grant ahead of Washington, because George fucked up in the summer of 1776 and damn near lost the war. Furthermore, his greatest victory at Yorktown was the ultimate case of it being better to be lucky than good. It was miracle that the French navy didn't fuck up and got to the Chesapeake before the Royal Navy. I mean how often did the French beat the British at sea?
    I definitely have some decency bias for Ike.
    Recency or decency bias? Ike was a very decent man, of course.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    Stonewall Jackson
    YellowSnow said:

    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    By WW2 the American military was like Secretariat, a tremendous machine. Generals were CEOs and @Logistics was on a global scale. There were thousands of staff doing the grunt work

    Washington and Grant et al were more of a one man show

    To add to @RaceBannon 's point...

    Ike clearly got the job done, but it you had subbed in another figure I don't know that the outcome looks much different. We still beat the Nazis.

    I don't think you can say that about Washington or Grant. W/o either of those guysm being the man of the hour, I don't know that we? win.

    I still rank Grant ahead of Washington, because George fucked up in the summer of 1776 and damn near lost the war. Furthermore, his greatest victory at Yorktown was the ultimate case of it being better to be lucky than good. It was miracle that the French navy didn't fuck up and got to the Chesapeake before the Royal Navy. I mean how often did the French beat the British at sea?
    I definitely have some decency bias for Ike.
    Recency or decency bias? Ike was a very decent man, of course.
    Kay Summersby agrees.
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  • Cougzz
    Cougzz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 309 Swaye's Wigwam
    1. George Marshall; Genius who supervised Eisenhower and generated the Marshall Plan.
    2. George Washington; Turned down the job of “King”. Also unequivocally won his war.
    3. Winfield Scott; Planned and led the first large scale amphibious landing and ground assault on foreign soil. He set the stage for D Day and WWII Pacific island hopping campaigns.
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