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Gaskin tearing it up on Saturday night
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came to say the same thing. this is the last website and RD is the last poster i expected to see gaskin hate on a night like last night. what a fucking weird yearGwad said:RoadDawg's g/f is the one who shit themselves??
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Ahmed is still what he was at Washington ... great when everything is blocked up and terrible when he has to deviate from the planbackthepack said:Both are average to above average NFL backs. Both will probably be out of the league in the next 4 years. They recycle RBs like nobody’s business.
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If they do that then awesome for them as Gaskin is probably best suited as a 1B ... point being is that Gaskin has shown enough this year for them that RB probably isn’t the highest priority for themCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Getting a free agent or drafting a RB in 2nd-3rd round sets up Miami to have a high talent player. At the same tim, they also have Gaskin and if he beats out the higher talent player, then great.Tequilla said:
They will prioritize the WRs to start with ... probably need 1-2 there and I’d also think they will look at the OL as wellRoadDawg55 said:
He had a very good game. Ahmed was great last week. Both are outperforming expectations. Gaskin has also had a lot of duds and was pretty bad for most of the season and I commented on it then. I’m not into overrating them because they played at UW.animate said:
Gaskin may be an "average" NFL back to you ... but what does his performance tonight say?RoadDawg55 said:
Gaskin was way better in college for sure. Until tonight, Ahmed had been better running the ball.biak1 said:Roadie typically your takes are good, but Gaskin was a much better college player and a better pro than Ahmed.
Gaskin is so loved here that many overrate him or try to put down Ahmed to prop him up. Ahmed running for 120+ against New England last week was better than any game Gaskin had until this week. NE is a pretty good defense too.
Both are average at best right now. Gaskin is a below average starter in the NFL which is way better than most projected. I really doubt the Dolphins think they are set at RB.
Don't be a dick and downplay it ... he was basically Miami's offense and balled out. Having that explosive potential is worth something ...
Gaskin is writing his own game cheques ... he's showing future GM's that he can do it on the biggest stage and make things happen even though he lacks NFL measurables.
Takes a pass and breaks tackles and scores. Takes a pass, makes a player miss and then uses his blockers and runs up the sidelines for a 59 yard score and confidence for the team.
The flipside to what you are thinking is this:
Dolphins GM says "you know, we're 10-5 and we've had good production from the RB room from our 2 young players ... do we really need to spend a high round pick(s) for a Najee Harris ... or do we shore up our OL or our Defense? If we win with Defense, stabilize our O line and receiver room which gives Tua more consistency and confidence ... we can live successfully with Gaskin/Ahmed ..."
They will sign a RB like Chris Carson or draft one in the top 3 rounds. It’s a bad RB room. The Dolphins rebuilt well and are ahead of schedule. Obviously whether Tua is legit or not is the biggest pressing need for them, but they need better skill players everywhere, including RB.
Gaskin probably isn’t a long-term 1A RB but he’s definitely a serviceable 1B ... Ahmed is really where they need to upgrade -
All those games were 1st half of season and Miami is a team that has dramatically improved during the yearCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Just looked at Gaskins stats for the year.
He’s averaging 19 touches/game (15 run/4 pass) for 99 yards/game.
He’s averaging 4.2 YPC.
3 out of 9 games have been duds.
Vs. the Rams, 18 carries, 47 yards, 2.6 YPC.
Vs. the 49ers, 16, 57, 3.6.
Vs. the Jags, 22, 66, 3.0.
The game against the Rams was definitely his worst overall. Against SF & the Jags, he added some catches to improve his overall performance. He’ll be a serviceable player and have a decent NFL career.
I never bash the kids so I won’t comment on Ahmed.
Rams was Tua’s 1st start and he was overmatched a bit
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Not that I need to defend Roaddawg's honor, but I wouldn't constitute saying Gaskin is a low level NFL starter as hate. I think he's putting enough film together to build himself a career beyond 7th round expectations, but he did have some duds early on in the year as well. A lot of that has to do with the Dolphins line.BaldwinIV said:
came to say the same thing. this is the last website and RD is the last poster i expected to see gaskin hate on a night like last night. what a fucking weird yearGwad said:RoadDawg's g/f is the one who shit themselves??
He's lucky he landed on the Dolphins, any other team may not have given him such an extensive tryout. His competition coming in was a white running back from Cal. -
gaskin is the most beloved UW player since the DJ years at least. it was hate. moving on.
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Lots of people loved LocknerBaldwinIV said:gaskin is the most beloved UW player since the DJ years at least. it was hate. moving on.
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I’m aware dipshit. I follow Football.Gwad said:
Gaskin was on the covid list dawg.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m stupid? When the fuck did I ever say Ahmed was better than Gaskin in college? Gaskin has four better season than Ahmed’s best. I didn’t hate Ahmed but I wasn’t a huge fan either.EwaDawg said:
Ahmed running for 120+ against New England last week was better than any game Gaskin had until this week. Not even close. The terrorist was still a one trick pony last week. I saw one play of that game and it involve Ahmed hand gifting a sack to the opposite team. This is PRECISELY why your Gaskin = Ahmed take is just plain shit. A game includes more than a subset of select plays within a game. I had no idea you were this fucking stupid.RoadDawg55 said:
Gaskin was way better in college for sure. Until tonight, Ahmed had been better running the ball.biak1 said:Roadie typically your takes are good, but Gaskin was a much better college player and a better pro than Ahmed.
Gaskin is so loved here that many overrate him or try to put down Ahmed to prop him up. Ahmed running for 120+ against New England last week was better than any game Gaskin had until this week. NE is a pretty good defense too.
Both are average at best right now. Gaskin is a below average starter in the NFL which is way better than most projected. I really doubt the Dolphins think they are set at RB.
I said his game vs NE was better than any in the pros, which it was. 120 yards vs the Patriots is better than 88 vs the Jets. He started over Gaskin because of that game and earning the nod. I bet Gaskin starts next week after this one. Kind of how it works when you don’t have a legitimate starting RB. One given up sack (the only play you saw) makes that not true? -
New bored motto?RoadDawg55 said:
I’m aware dipshit. I follow Football.Gwad said:
Gaskin was on the covid list dawg.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m stupid? When the fuck did I ever say Ahmed was better than Gaskin in college? Gaskin has four better season than Ahmed’s best. I didn’t hate Ahmed but I wasn’t a huge fan either.EwaDawg said:
Ahmed running for 120+ against New England last week was better than any game Gaskin had until this week. Not even close. The terrorist was still a one trick pony last week. I saw one play of that game and it involve Ahmed hand gifting a sack to the opposite team. This is PRECISELY why your Gaskin = Ahmed take is just plain shit. A game includes more than a subset of select plays within a game. I had no idea you were this fucking stupid.RoadDawg55 said:
Gaskin was way better in college for sure. Until tonight, Ahmed had been better running the ball.biak1 said:Roadie typically your takes are good, but Gaskin was a much better college player and a better pro than Ahmed.
Gaskin is so loved here that many overrate him or try to put down Ahmed to prop him up. Ahmed running for 120+ against New England last week was better than any game Gaskin had until this week. NE is a pretty good defense too.
Both are average at best right now. Gaskin is a below average starter in the NFL which is way better than most projected. I really doubt the Dolphins think they are set at RB.
I said his game vs NE was better than any in the pros, which it was. 120 yards vs the Patriots is better than 88 vs the Jets. He started over Gaskin because of that game and earning the nod. I bet Gaskin starts next week after this one. Kind of how it works when you don’t have a legitimate starting RB. One given up sack (the only play you saw) makes that not true? -
Yeah ok! The Dolphins have one of the worst offensive lines in the league so???Tequilla said:
Ahmed is still what he was at Washington ... great when everything is blocked up and terrible when he has to deviate from the planbackthepack said:Both are average to above average NFL backs. Both will probably be out of the league in the next 4 years. They recycle RBs like nobody’s business.
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This. Thank you.Tequilla said:The game tonight showed the difference between Ahmed and Gaskin ... where Ahmed struggled running anywhere but where the play was designed Gaskin showed his vision and routinely was able to make positive plays
There are physical measures which are great but measuring instinct and IQ is really hard to measure ... those traits are elite for Myles
Myles will likely never be an All-Pro ... but he’s far from the top of the list of Miami’s offensive issues to solve in the offseason
You don’t put up 169 yards on 19 touches in the NFL by being average at best
There was one play in particular that was an entire flashback to his (Ahmed) days at UW. The camera angle was right behind the offense, he takes the ball, the middle is just a wall offensive and defensive linemen, and he just runs right into the backs of his center and guard and obviously without any intention of doing otherwise.
Nobody is saying MMFG is a first ballot HOFamer, but he's going to have a career. Think Warrick Dunn ... that kind of guy. Maybe that's too ambitious, but it's what I think of when I think of Gaskins. I was pulling hard for the kid last night and I generally couldn't care less about the NFL. Still say I'll be surprised if the terrorist sticks unless he's able to become a specialist in a narrow array of offenses that get him into space immediately. Handing the ball to him behind the LOS? I don't see it ... not for long. Stand to be corrected.
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The long TD was all about him refusing to accept a limited play. He kept fighting and looking until he saw he might catch the edge, which he did, and housed it. Good for him. Kid is the polar antonym of a quitter. Whatever happens to him, it won't be for lack of putting up a fight.Doogles said:
This is pretty fair and they will most likely draft another RB next year. Gaskin's limitations will always keep a target on his back as long as he is in the league, but his instincts as a runner, toughness at the point of contact and overall effectiveness in the passing game were on display tonight. He's getting the film out there that he's more than his measurables. He was exceptional tonight.RoadDawg55 said:
Gaskin was way better in college for sure. Until tonight, Ahmed had been better running the ball.biak1 said:Roadie typically your takes are good, but Gaskin was a much better college player and a better pro than Ahmed.
Gaskin is so loved here that many overrate him or try to put down Ahmed to prop him up. Ahmed running for 120+ against New England last week was better than any game Gaskin had until this week. NE is a pretty good defense too.
Both are average at best right now. Gaskin is a below average starter in the NFL which is way better than most projected. I really doubt the Dolphins think they are set at RB.
Took this from one of their boards:
Myles Gaskin has joined Ronnie Brown (Week 3, 2007) as the only players with 80+ rush yards, 80+ rec yards and 2+ TD in a single game in Dolphins history. -
I assume the Fitzpatrick thing last night was a benching and not something else. I saw Tua take off and that hip ain't ever coming back to what it once was. I have no idea what his numbers are ... can he make a living as an elite QB in the pocket?RoadDawg55 said:
He had a very good game. Ahmed was great last week. Both are outperforming expectations. Gaskin has also had a lot of duds and was pretty bad for most of the season and I commented on it then. I’m not into overrating them because they played at UW.animate said:
Gaskin may be an "average" NFL back to you ... but what does his performance tonight say?RoadDawg55 said:
Gaskin was way better in college for sure. Until tonight, Ahmed had been better running the ball.biak1 said:Roadie typically your takes are good, but Gaskin was a much better college player and a better pro than Ahmed.
Gaskin is so loved here that many overrate him or try to put down Ahmed to prop him up. Ahmed running for 120+ against New England last week was better than any game Gaskin had until this week. NE is a pretty good defense too.
Both are average at best right now. Gaskin is a below average starter in the NFL which is way better than most projected. I really doubt the Dolphins think they are set at RB.
Don't be a dick and downplay it ... he was basically Miami's offense and balled out. Having that explosive potential is worth something ...
Gaskin is writing his own game cheques ... he's showing future GM's that he can do it on the biggest stage and make things happen even though he lacks NFL measurables.
Takes a pass and breaks tackles and scores. Takes a pass, makes a player miss and then uses his blockers and runs up the sidelines for a 59 yard score and confidence for the team.
The flipside to what you are thinking is this:
Dolphins GM says "you know, we're 10-5 and we've had good production from the RB room from our 2 young players ... do we really need to spend a high round pick(s) for a Najee Harris ... or do we shore up our OL or our Defense? If we win with Defense, stabilize our O line and receiver room which gives Tua more consistency and confidence ... we can live successfully with Gaskin/Ahmed ..."
They will sign a RB like Chris Carson or draft one in the top 3 rounds. It’s a bad RB room. The Dolphins rebuilt well and are ahead of schedule. Obviously whether Tua is legit or not is the biggest pressing need for them, but they need better skill players everywhere, including RB. -
Well played ese. Well played.Tequilla said:
Ahmed is still what he was at Washington ... great when everything is blocked up and terrible when he has to deviate from the planbackthepack said:Both are average to above average NFL backs. Both will probably be out of the league in the next 4 years. They recycle RBs like nobody’s business.
You don’t need a degree in mathematics to know that ... -
The way he ran the route was savvy as well. Not many RB's can split out wide and just ace every dimension of that play. Most QB's and coaches don't trust the average RB to make those plays. Swiss-army knife. He's a significant part of that offense working at all and turning around into a playoff contender.creepycoug said:
The long TD was all about him refusing to accept a limited play. He kept fighting and looking until he saw he might catch the edge, which he did, and housed it. Good for him. Kid is the polar antonym of a quitter. Whatever happens to him, it won't be for lack of putting up a fight.Doogles said:
This is pretty fair and they will most likely draft another RB next year. Gaskin's limitations will always keep a target on his back as long as he is in the league, but his instincts as a runner, toughness at the point of contact and overall effectiveness in the passing game were on display tonight. He's getting the film out there that he's more than his measurables. He was exceptional tonight.RoadDawg55 said:
Gaskin was way better in college for sure. Until tonight, Ahmed had been better running the ball.biak1 said:Roadie typically your takes are good, but Gaskin was a much better college player and a better pro than Ahmed.
Gaskin is so loved here that many overrate him or try to put down Ahmed to prop him up. Ahmed running for 120+ against New England last week was better than any game Gaskin had until this week. NE is a pretty good defense too.
Both are average at best right now. Gaskin is a below average starter in the NFL which is way better than most projected. I really doubt the Dolphins think they are set at RB.
Took this from one of their boards:
Myles Gaskin has joined Ronnie Brown (Week 3, 2007) as the only players with 80+ rush yards, 80+ rec yards and 2+ TD in a single game in Dolphins history.
