this years recruiting class is meh

PostGameOrangeSlices

But our best defense in at least 30 years was full of meh recruits that became monsters

Obviously everyone would prefer a bunch of blue chips, but good coaches can turn 3 stars in an NC caliber defense, and Kwat and Lake are still here.

However, this program needs to have a great run in 2021 or the momentum has officially flatlined.

Pac 12 title and beat Oregon or bust, quite honestly. The potential is there.

whatshouldicareabout

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

But our best defense in at least 30 years was full of meh recruits that became monsters

Obviously everyone would prefer a bunch of blue chips, but good coaches can turn 3 stars in an NC caliber defense, and Kwat and Lake are still here.

However, this program needs to have a great run in 2021 or the momentum has officially flatlined.

Pac 12 title and beat Oregon or bust, quite honestly. The potential is there.

The disappointment with this class is more with the misses and lack of urgency than anything else.

dnc

whatshouldicareabout said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

But our best defense in at least 30 years was full of meh recruits that became monsters

Obviously everyone would prefer a bunch of blue chips, but good coaches can turn 3 stars in an NC caliber defense, and Kwat and Lake are still here.

However, this program needs to have a great run in 2021 or the momentum has officially flatlined.

Pac 12 title and beat Oregon or bust, quite honestly. The potential is there.

The disappointment with this class is more with the misses and lack of urgency than anything else.

It's the apparent lack of effort. Shit happens, I can forgive mistakes.

Not giving a fuck is unforgivable.

biak1

The whole theory that Jimmy Lake would elevate UW's recruiting took a huge hit, as well. It should have been as easy to pitch UW as ever, but for a variety of reasons it didn't work at all.

dannarc

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

However, this program needs to have a great run in 2021 or the momentum has officially flatlined.

Pac 12 title and beat Oregon or bust, quite honestly. The potential is there.

That was supposed to be this season, now we are back to '21 will be special.....

creepycoug

biak1 said:

The whole theory that Jimmy Lake would elevate UW's recruiting took a huge hit, as well. It should have been as easy to pitch UW as ever, but for a variety of reasons it didn't work at all.

Wondering about this. In a short clause, I think you touched on the source of so much spiritual unrest among the UW fanbase.

What is it that made this year such an easy pitch? Right after putting up a good optic fight against Bama, I would have said, yes. But 3 consecutive bowl losses and then 8-5 doesn't seem like a easy peasy platform. There are worse, don't twist. But it takes a talented recruiter. The program isn't selling itself at this point. It still takes recruiting chops to stock a roster at a PNW school because there's not enough local talent in the region and you're never going to keep it all anyway. You have to go far out of state and bring them here.

It's doable, but you have to pull it off and it's work.

PostGameOrangeSlices

dannarc said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

However, this program needs to have a great run in 2021 or the momentum has officially flatlined.

Pac 12 title and beat Oregon or bust, quite honestly. The potential is there.

That was supposed to be this season, now we are back to '21 will be special.....

No it wasnt. This season is a clusterfuck.

chuck

The commut list has a few guys that fall well below the standards UW has set iver the past few classes. It foes have good prospects included in it though. I actually love the DL and Helms. I like the receiver from Kennedy a lot. I really like one of the corners, can't remember his name but he's the tall one. I like Prentice and actually like the out of nowhere OL who's name also escapes me. And of course there's Huard.

There are a fair number of future starters in the class. In the long run it's not going to be a back breaker for the talent level at UW.

The problem is in the key failures including national top 10, local guys spurning UW. It's hard to get past that.

dnc

chuck said:

The commut list has a few guys that fall well below the standards UW has set iver the past few classes. It foes have good prospects included in it though. I actually love the DL and Helms. I like the receiver from Kennedy a lot. I really like one of the corners, can't remember his name but he's the tall one. I like Prentice and actually like the out of nowhere OL who's name also escapes me. And of course there's Huard.

There are a fair number of future starters in the class. In the long run it's not going to be a back breaker for the talent level at UW.

The problem is in the key failures including national top 10, local guys spurning UW. It's hard to get past that.

Spears and Wyrsch

Houhusky

dnc said:

chuck said:

The commut list has a few guys that fall well below the standards UW has set iver the past few classes. It foes have good prospects included in it though. I actually love the DL and Helms. I like the receiver from Kennedy a lot. I really like one of the corners, can't remember his name but he's the tall one. I like Prentice and actually like the out of nowhere OL who's name also escapes me. And of course there's Huard.

There are a fair number of future starters in the class. In the long run it's not going to be a back breaker for the talent level at UW.

The problem is in the key failures including national top 10, local guys spurning UW. It's hard to get past that.

Spears and Wyrsch

only two? could be wyrsch I guess.

Kingdome_Urinals

I'm liking Latu and ZTF playing together next year. The key is getting one more quality LB to take Sirmon's reps.

The good news is that good players get good all by themselves sometimes and make average coaches look good.

I think with maturation on offense at QB and WR UW has some great tools to finally put up some points.

The offense just needs to actually figure out what it really can do and who's best at doing it. A full camp and a couple OOC blowouts will help with that process.

UW_Doog_Bot

creepycoug said:

biak1 said:

The whole theory that Jimmy Lake would elevate UW's recruiting took a huge hit, as well. It should have been as easy to pitch UW as ever, but for a variety of reasons it didn't work at all.

Wondering about this. In a short clause, I think you touched on the source of so much spiritual unrest among the UW fanbase.

What is it that made this year such an easy pitch? Right after putting up a good optic fight against Bama, I would have said, yes. But 3 consecutive bowl losses and then 8-5 doesn't seem like a easy peasy platform. There are worse, don't twist. But it takes a talented recruiter. The program isn't selling itself at this point. It still takes recruiting chops to stock a roster at a PNW school because there's not enough local talent in the region and you're never going to keep it all anyway. You have to go far out of state and bring them here.

It's doable, but you have to pull it off and it's work.

If only there had been a historically good bumper crop of local talent this year to off set some of those challenges...

RoadDawg55

I’m being serious but toughness needs to return. Pussies like Asa Turner should be crying and wanting to transfer because they get ripped so hard in meetings.

Teams ran all over us. The DL prospects have all been underwhelming so far from Tuli (Small flashes) on down. The redshirt freshman, especially Bandes looked horrible. Keith Taylor needs to gtfo for congratulating Oregon.

We have softness permeating thru the program and it’s a way bigger concern than losing individual recruits.

dtd

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Pac 12 title and beat play Oregon or bust, quite honestly.

Houhusky

RoadDawg55 said:

I’m being serious but toughness needs to return. Pussies like Asa Turner should be crying and wanting to transfer because they get ripped so hard in meetings.

Teams ran all over us. The DL prospects have all been underwhelming so far from Tuli (Small flashes) on down. The redshirt freshman, especially Bandes looked horrible. Keith Taylor needs to gtfo for congratulating Oregon.

We have softness permeating thru the program and it’s a way bigger concern than losing individual recruits.

Its also why the focus on Sirmon is dumb... Dude has improved a lot from last year and if he make a similar improvement next year he will be a above average ILB in the Pac12 (as a RS soph) and has shown plenty of toughness on the field...

The team (especially on defense) has a finesse/soft problem... The interior DL got mauled, the edge guys are pass rushing specialists that struggle against the run or playing disciplined, the safeties are 20 yards off the LOS and are afraid to hit, and the corners outside of Molden (and sometimes McDuffie) are really fucking soft.

In the list of problems with the team the DL and the team mentality are at the top of the list, closely followed by the safety play and scheme.

RoadDawg55

Houhusky said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I’m being serious but toughness needs to return. Pussies like Asa Turner should be crying and wanting to transfer because they get ripped so hard in meetings.

Teams ran all over us. The DL prospects have all been underwhelming so far from Tuli (Small flashes) on down. The redshirt freshman, especially Bandes looked horrible. Keith Taylor needs to gtfo for congratulating Oregon.

We have softness permeating thru the program and it’s a way bigger concern than losing individual recruits.

Its also why the focus on Sirmon is dumb... Dude has improved a lot from last year and if he make a similar improvement next year he will be a above average ILB in the Pac12 (as a RS soph) and has shown plenty of toughness on the field...

The team (especially on defense) has a finesse/soft problem... The interior DL got mauled, the edge guys are pass rushing specialists that struggle against the run or playing disciplined, the safeties are 20 yards off the LOS and are afraid to hit, and the corners outside of Molden (and sometimes McDuffie) are really fucking soft.

In the list of problems with the team the DL and the team mentality are at the top of the list, closely followed by the safety play and scheme.

I don’t think the focus on Sirmon is dumb. He did improve, but he shouldn’t be starting so easily. He’s pretty bad.

chuck

I made a lot of typos. Jesus.

Yep it was Spears that I really liked from his highlights. He's incoming Kevin King level. Maybe a bit better at this point.

Swaye

creepycoug said:

biak1 said:

The whole theory that Jimmy Lake would elevate UW's recruiting took a huge hit, as well. It should have been as easy to pitch UW as ever, but for a variety of reasons it didn't work at all.

Wondering about this. In a short clause, I think you touched on the source of so much spiritual unrest among the UW fanbase.

What is it that made this year such an easy pitch? Right after putting up a good optic fight against Bama, I would have said, yes. But 3 consecutive bowl losses and then 8-5 doesn't seem like a easy peasy platform. There are worse, don't twist. But it takes a talented recruiter. The program isn't selling itself at this point. It still takes recruiting chops to stock a roster at a PNW school because there's not enough local talent in the region and you're never going to keep it all anyway. You have to go far out of state and bring them here.

It's doable, but you have to pull it off and it's work.

Easier to drink latte and play on your boat.

doogie

UW has a Tracy Ford problem

greenblood

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

dannarc said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

However, this program needs to have a great run in 2021 or the momentum has officially flatlined.

Pac 12 title and beat Oregon or bust, quite honestly. The potential is there.

That was supposed to be this season, now we are back to '21 will be special.....

No it wasnt. This season is a clusterfuck.

Adapt or you’ll get eaten.