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Has an ostensibly major football program ever been cucked as hard as UW is right now?

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  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,042 Standard Supporter

    Swaye said:

    Canadawg said:

    Yella its time for a perspective walk

    We were in the playoff FOUR YEARS AGO

    We don't even need to talk about the 90s anymore because it was JUST proven what UW can be on the field and no matter how much you want to whine it doesn't take that away. They did it 2016 regardless of any "upper campus issues"

    He's talking about COVID. We seem to have lost sight, as we often do here, of the original subject. He's saying that it's a lot easier to tell the AD or the first year coach to push around and through the COVID problem than it is for them to actually do it. Lake, for starters, has no clout. He is a first-year promoted DC. Forget about that. Anybody expecting him to swing his dick around is just naive. He just got there and has no platform.

    Cohen is a functionary. Functionaries exist within larger bureaucracies and UW is a medium sized city. They don't get there and stay there by not knowing the politics. That's where the "bud" tone in the letter comes from. I've written and reviewed a million in my career. First draft starts with "bud" because the writer is sitting there rolling their eyes at the person demanding that they do or don't do something the substance and context of which that person barely understands.

    Here is a wild ass guess: UW has been out front on COVID as a national resource. Seattle is not exactly full of people who think it's just a bunch of bullshit. The AD at UW is going to play ball strictly by the rules the healthcare people have laid out. Period. Nothing short of that will be tolerated. Otherwise, really bad look for the school.

    He's not talking about expectations going forward. Just the issue with COVID.

    If you want to be mad, be made that Lake didn't manage a tighter ship and keep the kids clean. That turned out to matter.
    Creepycoug living in his own glory right here, didn't know you had that gear. Nicely done.

    Seattle was a liberal, left-wing, science believing, coffee drinking, musician friendly, haven for the homeless, druggy town in 1991 and UW football seemed to be okay then.

    The head football coach can at least control what he can control, or at heavily influence what he can heavily influence. And this often means the physical activities of scholarship football players. Especially at a $3 million price tag.

    The question is how did the football program fuck up so royally with all this state-of-the art COVID knowledge located just .25 miles away from the fucking football stadium.
    And this is the crux of the issue. Whichever side of the "we should have/couldn't play with the Covid" argument you fall on, I think we can all agree that this coaching staff failed miserably to keep this team eligible to play ball. That's on Lake. The buck stops with him. The Pac-12 footprints rules wrt Covid are a fucking disaster in my eyes, but none of that matters. The only thing that matters is if the football team can continue to operate within the rules (whether they are stupid or not is irrelevant) they are given. The rules were clear. Lake and his staff failed to manage to those rules effectively and we were put in an untenable position from which they either pussed out like bitches OR couldn't field a competitive team so retired from the field of battle, depending on your perspective. The result is the same. They are either (a) cowards, (b) incompetents, or (C) both. There is no option D.

    The Meathead in Eugene kept his team ready to play, while Lake grab assed his way into an epic fail that will reverberate for ages. They knew the rules. They failed in their primary mission which was to keep a team ready to compete for the school giving them a free education. The fact that they failed in such spectacular fashion, by giving their arch rival the opportunity to win a Fiesta Bowl, just magnifies how critical "program management skills" really are in high stakes organizations. We lacked those skills in a big way and are now reaping the whirlwind of that gross incompetence. Stop complaining about the Pac-12s rules. Of course they are stupid because West Coast + Pac-12 = guaranteed stupid shit. Oregon and USC managed to those rules anyway and played in the money game. We took photos of lattes and boats while Rome burned. Then made excuses and congratulated they guy who just fucked our wife.

    This shit is so simple a degenerate like me can figure it out. Somehow all those millionaires in the AD can't. Pathetic.
    As my pretend legal counsel from @creepycoug Partners LLP argued so forcefully, I believe it's more likely than not Jenn/Jimmy were doomed the moment the OL had the crud outbreak.

    Yes, we can agree that Oregon and USC were successful in keeping the Covid at bay just enough to stay in the fight, which is what mattered above else this during this shit show season.

    But what inquiring minds like myself want to know is this: What strategeries did Oregon and USC successfully implement to keep the Vid from knocking out an entire position group? And what then was the negligence on the part of Jimmy and UW's crack team of medical professional which was the proximate cause of our? demise?

    I want answers god damn it.
    I do too. Oregon doesn’t surprise me as Creepy’s boyfriend runs a tight ship and I bet the citizens of Eugene would gladly snitch on any players that were seen breaking quarantine.

    USC is a head scratcher though. Maybe the squad was playing Call of Duty with Helton everyday after Zoom meetings? I’d think college guys would have more temptation in LA.

    Either way, Lake should have a scarlet “COVID-19 +” stitched to the OL’s shirt that fucked this up so he gets his rightful shunning in Red Square.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,695 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    Canadawg said:

    Yella its time for a perspective walk

    We were in the playoff FOUR YEARS AGO

    We don't even need to talk about the 90s anymore because it was JUST proven what UW can be on the field and no matter how much you want to whine it doesn't take that away. They did it 2016 regardless of any "upper campus issues"

    He's talking about COVID. We seem to have lost sight, as we often do here, of the original subject. He's saying that it's a lot easier to tell the AD or the first year coach to push around and through the COVID problem than it is for them to actually do it. Lake, for starters, has no clout. He is a first-year promoted DC. Forget about that. Anybody expecting him to swing his dick around is just naive. He just got there and has no platform.

    Cohen is a functionary. Functionaries exist within larger bureaucracies and UW is a medium sized city. They don't get there and stay there by not knowing the politics. That's where the "bud" tone in the letter comes from. I've written and reviewed a million in my career. First draft starts with "bud" because the writer is sitting there rolling their eyes at the person demanding that they do or don't do something the substance and context of which that person barely understands.

    Here is a wild ass guess: UW has been out front on COVID as a national resource. Seattle is not exactly full of people who think it's just a bunch of bullshit. The AD at UW is going to play ball strictly by the rules the healthcare people have laid out. Period. Nothing short of that will be tolerated. Otherwise, really bad look for the school.

    He's not talking about expectations going forward. Just the issue with COVID.

    If you want to be mad, be made that Lake didn't manage a tighter ship and keep the kids clean. That turned out to matter.
    Creepycoug living in his own glory right here, didn't know you had that gear. Nicely done.

    Seattle was a liberal, left-wing, science believing, coffee drinking, musician friendly, haven for the homeless, druggy town in 1991 and UW football seemed to be okay then.

    The head football coach can at least control what he can control, or at heavily influence what he can heavily influence. And this often means the physical activities of scholarship football players. Especially at a $3 million price tag.

    The question is how did the football program fuck up so royally with all this state-of-the art COVID knowledge located just .25 miles away from the fucking football stadium.
    And this is the crux of the issue. Whichever side of the "we should have/couldn't play with the Covid" argument you fall on, I think we can all agree that this coaching staff failed miserably to keep this team eligible to play ball. That's on Lake. The buck stops with him. The Pac-12 footprints rules wrt Covid are a fucking disaster in my eyes, but none of that matters. The only thing that matters is if the football team can continue to operate within the rules (whether they are stupid or not is irrelevant) they are given. The rules were clear. Lake and his staff failed to manage to those rules effectively and we were put in an untenable position from which they either pussed out like bitches OR couldn't field a competitive team so retired from the field of battle, depending on your perspective. The result is the same. They are either (a) cowards, (b) incompetents, or (C) both. There is no option D.

    The Meathead in Eugene kept his team ready to play, while Lake grab assed his way into an epic fail that will reverberate for ages. They knew the rules. They failed in their primary mission which was to keep a team ready to compete for the school giving them a free education. The fact that they failed in such spectacular fashion, by giving their arch rival the opportunity to win a Fiesta Bowl, just magnifies how critical "program management skills" really are in high stakes organizations. We lacked those skills in a big way and are now reaping the whirlwind of that gross incompetence. Stop complaining about the Pac-12s rules. Of course they are stupid because West Coast + Pac-12 = guaranteed stupid shit. Oregon and USC managed to those rules anyway and played in the money game. We took photos of lattes and boats while Rome burned. Then made excuses and congratulated they guy who just fucked our wife.

    This shit is so simple a degenerate like me can figure it out. Somehow all those millionaires in the AD can't. Pathetic.
    As my pretend legal counsel from @creepycoug Partners LLP argued so forcefully, I believe it's more likely than not Jenn/Jimmy were doomed the moment the OL had the crud outbreak.

    Yes, we can agree that Oregon and USC were successful in keeping the Covid at bay just enough to stay in the fight, which is what mattered above else this during this shit show season.

    But what inquiring minds like myself want to know is this: What strategeries did Oregon and USC successfully implement to keep the Vid from knocking out an entire position group? And what then was the negligence on the part of Jimmy and UW's crack team of medical professional which was the proximate cause of our? demise?

    I want answers god damn it.
    I do too. Oregon doesn’t surprise me as Creepy’s boyfriend runs a tight ship and I bet the citizens of Eugene would gladly snitch on any players that were seen breaking quarantine.

    USC is a head scratcher though. Maybe the squad was playing Call of Duty with Helton everyday after Zoom meetings? I’d think college guys would have more temptation in LA.

    Either way, Lake should have a scarlet “COVID-19 +” stitched to the OL’s shirt that fucked this up so he gets his rightful shunning in Red Square.
    Seriously - I want to know what the hell happened.
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,042 Standard Supporter
    edited December 2020

    Swaye said:

    Canadawg said:

    Yella its time for a perspective walk

    We were in the playoff FOUR YEARS AGO

    We don't even need to talk about the 90s anymore because it was JUST proven what UW can be on the field and no matter how much you want to whine it doesn't take that away. They did it 2016 regardless of any "upper campus issues"

    He's talking about COVID. We seem to have lost sight, as we often do here, of the original subject. He's saying that it's a lot easier to tell the AD or the first year coach to push around and through the COVID problem than it is for them to actually do it. Lake, for starters, has no clout. He is a first-year promoted DC. Forget about that. Anybody expecting him to swing his dick around is just naive. He just got there and has no platform.

    Cohen is a functionary. Functionaries exist within larger bureaucracies and UW is a medium sized city. They don't get there and stay there by not knowing the politics. That's where the "bud" tone in the letter comes from. I've written and reviewed a million in my career. First draft starts with "bud" because the writer is sitting there rolling their eyes at the person demanding that they do or don't do something the substance and context of which that person barely understands.

    Here is a wild ass guess: UW has been out front on COVID as a national resource. Seattle is not exactly full of people who think it's just a bunch of bullshit. The AD at UW is going to play ball strictly by the rules the healthcare people have laid out. Period. Nothing short of that will be tolerated. Otherwise, really bad look for the school.

    He's not talking about expectations going forward. Just the issue with COVID.

    If you want to be mad, be made that Lake didn't manage a tighter ship and keep the kids clean. That turned out to matter.
    Creepycoug living in his own glory right here, didn't know you had that gear. Nicely done.

    Seattle was a liberal, left-wing, science believing, coffee drinking, musician friendly, haven for the homeless, druggy town in 1991 and UW football seemed to be okay then.

    The head football coach can at least control what he can control, or at heavily influence what he can heavily influence. And this often means the physical activities of scholarship football players. Especially at a $3 million price tag.

    The question is how did the football program fuck up so royally with all this state-of-the art COVID knowledge located just .25 miles away from the fucking football stadium.
    And this is the crux of the issue. Whichever side of the "we should have/couldn't play with the Covid" argument you fall on, I think we can all agree that this coaching staff failed miserably to keep this team eligible to play ball. That's on Lake. The buck stops with him. The Pac-12 footprints rules wrt Covid are a fucking disaster in my eyes, but none of that matters. The only thing that matters is if the football team can continue to operate within the rules (whether they are stupid or not is irrelevant) they are given. The rules were clear. Lake and his staff failed to manage to those rules effectively and we were put in an untenable position from which they either pussed out like bitches OR couldn't field a competitive team so retired from the field of battle, depending on your perspective. The result is the same. They are either (a) cowards, (b) incompetents, or (C) both. There is no option D.

    The Meathead in Eugene kept his team ready to play, while Lake grab assed his way into an epic fail that will reverberate for ages. They knew the rules. They failed in their primary mission which was to keep a team ready to compete for the school giving them a free education. The fact that they failed in such spectacular fashion, by giving their arch rival the opportunity to win a Fiesta Bowl, just magnifies how critical "program management skills" really are in high stakes organizations. We lacked those skills in a big way and are now reaping the whirlwind of that gross incompetence. Stop complaining about the Pac-12s rules. Of course they are stupid because West Coast + Pac-12 = guaranteed stupid shit. Oregon and USC managed to those rules anyway and played in the money game. We took photos of lattes and boats while Rome burned. Then made excuses and congratulated they guy who just fucked our wife.

    This shit is so simple a degenerate like me can figure it out. Somehow all those millionaires in the AD can't. Pathetic.
    As my pretend legal counsel from @creepycoug Partners LLP argued so forcefully, I believe it's more likely than not Jenn/Jimmy were doomed the moment the OL had the crud outbreak.

    Yes, we can agree that Oregon and USC were successful in keeping the Covid at bay just enough to stay in the fight, which is what mattered above else this during this shit show season.

    But what inquiring minds like myself want to know is this: What strategeries did Oregon and USC successfully implement to keep the Vid from knocking out an entire position group? And what then was the negligence on the part of Jimmy and UW's crack team of medical professional which was the proximate cause of our? demise?

    I want answers god damn it.
    I do too. Oregon doesn’t surprise me as Creepy’s boyfriend runs a tight ship and I bet the citizens of Eugene would gladly snitch on any players that were seen breaking quarantine.

    USC is a head scratcher though. Maybe the squad was playing Call of Duty with Helton everyday after Zoom meetings? I’d think college guys would have more temptation in LA.

    Either way, Lake should have a scarlet “COVID-19 +” stitched to the OL’s shirt that fucked this up so he gets his rightful shunning in Red Square.
    Seriously - I want to know what the hell happened.
    Would you be able to handle the truth?