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  • CallMeBigErnCallMeBigErn Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,088 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited November 2020
    Beno4Life said:

    Some random thoughts from rewatching the game

    - Eddie and Sirmon a lot more consistent in their run fits, Eddie had a phenomenal game in general
    - Tuitele getting a lot of penetration against the run, Bronson with a much better game
    - ZTF is a monster, he is beating dudes with straight up power rushes, unteachable strength
    - Much better game from Bowman, ideally we would use him as a pass rush specialist, but unfortunately he's the best we got
    - K made some good adjustments, getting Alex Cook a lot more involved near the LOS, run blitzing DB's
    - The trio of McDuffie/Molden/Taylor is really not fair, up their with our best cornerback groups
    - Cade Otton looks incredible, clearly one of the best players on the field on every play
    - Oline looked good. I would like to see us run out of more spread formations, its just really hard to block consistently against stacked boxes.
    - S/O the backup oline on the long Dick run - Fautanu-Kalepo-Mele-Buelow-Luciano, completely crushed them
    - Kind of crazy how many points we actually left on the field. Messed up handoff on the goal-line, missed fg, Puka drop in FG range, McMillan-Morris could have had 2-3 long TDs
    - Morris looks comfortable in the offense, which is good. He knows how to make his reads quickly, and is pretty decisive with the ball. He's pretty quick to recognize when nothing is there and minimizes the damage. His accuracy on shorter throws still isn't ideal. but it was definitely better this game, and not a huge problem. His arm is still really bad, he does not look at all comfortable throwing deep, like he doesn't trust his arm so he overcompensates with his body and overthrows it. Hopefully that can be improved, I guess we'll see.

    I hear you on the last point regarding compensation, but Morris threw an out to Bynum last night from the far hash that Browning never came close to attempting, let alone completing. The zip on his ball surprised me and he has a stronger arm than we think.
    Yes. I rewound that throw back a few times so I could make cool sound effects.
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    doog it up!!!!
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,839
    chuck said:

    BTP posting like a grown ass man with a clear and valid basis for what he has to say. Well aren't I a fucktarded asshat for being so combative with him?

    Thats a rhetorical question.motherfuckers.

    Morris not only has a strong arm but a quick trigger and release and adaptive arm angles to compensate for his height. I find him pretty fun to watch and actually think he could be one of those unexpected legend type of talents. I haven't mocked BTP about him because I really didn't expect much either.

    I hate to say it but I think the quickness, velocity, arm angles, and not always perfect ball placement add up to a QB that can be a challenge to catch balls from. It's kind of like certain pitchers I remember who weren't flame throwers but who I seemed to struggle to catch up with. I couldn't pick the ball up in their motion so it would get on top of me quick. I think some of that has gone on with the receivers. Not on every drop but on some.

    They better be able to do it, or they're not good enough to stay on the field, but I've weighed that in on my judgement of the receivers so far. I'm willing to grant a little time to get in sync with him.

    His upper body mechanics when he’s throwing look a lot like Oklahoma Baker. Not saying he’s Baker don’t twist.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
    Sources said:

    Morris has really good pocket movement, he’s really good at manipulating angles so he step into his throw on time. Has a much much better arm than I expected. He’s automatic 20 yards and in. He looked to have found the right trajectory on his deep balls later in the game which phew if we hit on 40% of those we are going to curb curb stomp people. That game should have been 60-6 in the early 4th if we didn’t have those drops, i’m really not that worried Jalen and Puke are too good not to figure it out. Jalen is going to be a dominant deep threat, ho lee shit he was open downfield at least 4-5 times in that game.

    But what about his CEILING?
    ELITE
  • EmotermanEmoterman Member Posts: 3,333

    Some random thoughts from rewatching the game

    - Eddie and Sirmon a lot more consistent in their run fits, Eddie had a phenomenal game in general
    - Tuitele getting a lot of penetration against the run, Bronson with a much better game
    - ZTF is a monster, he is beating dudes with straight up power rushes, unteachable strength
    - Much better game from Bowman, ideally we would use him as a pass rush specialist, but unfortunately he's the best we got
    - K made some good adjustments, getting Alex Cook a lot more involved near the LOS, run blitzing DB's
    - The trio of McDuffie/Molden/Taylor is really not fair, up their with our best cornerback groups
    - Cade Otton looks incredible, clearly one of the best players on the field on every play
    - Oline looked good. I would like to see us run out of more spread formations, its just really hard to block consistently against stacked boxes.
    - S/O the backup oline on the long Dick run - Fautanu-Kalepo-Mele-Buelow-Luciano, completely crushed them
    - Kind of crazy how many points we actually left on the field. Messed up handoff on the goal-line, missed fg, Puka drop in FG range, McMillan-Morris could have had 2-3 long TDs
    - Morris looks comfortable in the offense, which is good. He knows how to make his reads quickly, and is pretty decisive with the ball. He's pretty quick to recognize when nothing is there and minimizes the damage. His accuracy on shorter throws still isn't ideal. but it was definitely better this game, and not a huge problem. His arm is still really bad, he does not look at all comfortable throwing deep, like he doesn't trust his arm so he overcompensates with his body and overthrows it. Hopefully that can be improved, I guess we'll see.

    Naw he has a good arm, coaches with young QBs drill it into them to not turn the ball over. Thought that was the reason he was over throwing a lot of the deeper balls. But he gained a lot of confidence in the 2nd and threw 2 pretty deep balls.
    Yeah the arm strength is fine, he just doesn't seem that confident making them. McMillan should've had 3 tds. First one, first play 2nd Qtr, Morris kind of jumps forward slightly and overthrows him. Second one end of 2nd Qtr, pretty good throw, but if he just steps into it a little more thats a TD. Third one McMillan drops, but was a great throw & footwork.

    So he can definitely do it, just has to be more consistent and confident in his arm.
    We gotta hope they keep letting him let it rip on those, only a matter of time before he and McMillan get it down.

    I'm gonna doog that McMillan is that kind of talent that he can get behind a secondary at will. It didn't seem like he was an elite speed guy, but if he is, or if his double moves are that sick, it will be a fun three years with him.
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,839

    Sources said:

    Morris has really good pocket movement, he’s really good at manipulating angles so he step into his throw on time. Has a much much better arm than I expected. He’s automatic 20 yards and in. He looked to have found the right trajectory on his deep balls later in the game which phew if we hit on 40% of those we are going to curb curb stomp people. That game should have been 60-6 in the early 4th if we didn’t have those drops, i’m really not that worried Jalen and Puke are too good not to figure it out. Jalen is going to be a dominant deep threat, ho lee shit he was open downfield at least 4-5 times in that game.

    But what about his CEILING?
    Better than Sirmon!
    fudgie, glad to see you're heart is heeling.
    Morris *swoons*

  • Kingdome_UrinalsKingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,687
    chuck said:

    BTP posting like a grown ass man with a clear and valid basis for what he has to say. Well aren't I a fucktarded asshat for being so combative with him?

    Thats a rhetorical question.motherfuckers.

    Morris not only has a strong arm but a quick trigger and release and adaptive arm angles to compensate for his height. I find him pretty fun to watch and actually think he could be one of those unexpected legend type of talents. I haven't mocked BTP about him because I really didn't expect much either.

    I hate to say it but I think the quickness, velocity, arm angles, and not always perfect ball placement add up to a QB that can be a challenge to catch balls from. It's kind of like certain pitchers I remember who weren't flame throwers but who I seemed to struggle to catch up with. I couldn't pick the ball up in their motion so it would get on top of me quick. I think some of that has gone on with the receivers. Not on every drop but on some.

    They better be able to do it, or they're not good enough to stay on the field, but I've weighed that in on my judgement of the receivers so far. I'm willing to grant a little time to get in sync with him.

    Kyler Murray, Pat Mahomes both throw the football like their playing second base half the time. WR's don't seem to have trouble with it. In fact, they thrive.

    Just catch the football. Last year they said Eason threw it too fast. Just catch the fucker.
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