Jimmy Lake

sonics1993

When he got took the job, I was nervous. Anyone who knows Jimmy knows he's cocky and stubborn, that's a trait that could be good or bad depending on the coach. But then he had his press conference and I got excited. He talked about being aggressive on the field and on the recruiting trail and I thought his energy was needed to get this program back on track and get them back to competition with Oregon. But then he made his staff hires which made me scratch my head. Keeping KB and Bob, two guys who are worthless on the recruiting trail and are average coaches at best didn't seem aggressive. Then he promoted Will Harris to DB coach, brought back Terrence, and promoted Cato from within, all safe moves. Then came the OC hire, after failing to bring in Kellen Moore, he hired an OC that had a laughable resume and someone who basically left for dead in the NFL. But I thought, maybe he knows something I don't so give it time and see it play out.

Then recruiting came and it went like I expected which is why I started saying I was concerned about recruiting in April when all the so-called recruiting insiders kept making excuses and kept saying let it play out. All the holes I thought they had with this recruiting staff showed up and what was most disconcerting was the lack of a plan with recruiting. We missed on almost every DB, got dominated by Oregon, and struggled to recruit instate. But I thought, hey maybe the product on the field will be good enough to mask those flaws but nope. The offense ran tonight isn't a pro-style offense because no team in the NFL is dumb enough to run this. This offensive style is outdated and easy to defend. Stacking the box, running the same play over and over, not stretching the field might work against Oregon State but it won't work again for the good teams. I thought Jimmy could compete with Mario and Oregon but I was wrong. Even if he did have an epiphany and realize his mistakes, the budget wouldn't allow him to fix it but sadly I don't think he realizes his mistakes. What I saw tonight is a coach who will be competing with Stanford for third place. Hopefully, I'm wrong and overreacting but sadly I feel we are back in the 7-8 win level like under Steve Sarkisian while Oregon is back to competing for Championships under Mario as they did with Chip Kelly.

backthepack

He sucks, good call

Tequilla

I 100% agree with all of this ...

If you want to get triggered listen to Jimmy talk about how he handled the end of game decision around whether to kick the FG or not ...

Jimmy has a lot of false bravado where he acts like he knows more than he does ... he's clearly smart but he thinks he's the smartest person in the room and it's often a fatal trait

I'll cut a little slack on the game planning given that we arguably don't have a QB ... but I'm having a hard time seeing a scenario where Lake doesn't basically turn into a return to the Sark years where we're decent but lose some games that we should win and just in general miss in areas where we shouldn't miss.

backthepack

We have an egomaniac as our HC

guntlove

It's been obvious to anyone who's been paying attention this year that Jimmy is in way over his head. His OC hire and the decision to retain Bob Gregory will go down as the most colossal fuck-ups... but what will ultimately get Jimmy fired is his arrogance. He's not half the fucking coach he thinks he is.

godawgst

Other than the Win, the red flags from personnel, to recruiting, to on-field play, to play calling, to coaching decisions are extremely troubling. This was Oregon State. Cal, Oregon, Stanford will plug box and force us to complete a pass. WSU's Qb will be a bitch to handle in 2 weeks. He can run and throw it. Beavs qb couldn't.

PostGameOrangeSlices

Lot of lifpo that needs to happen

ForeskinWalletDawg

POSJohnDonovan

Well said, all on point. No aggressiveness. Their play on the field show the obvious lack of judgement w hiring his staff. Watch the tape: JohnDon’s offensive scheme is simpler and more predictable than most Metro HS offenses. Not good.

Goduckies

To me watching this game as an outsider... seing a few penalties were killers, letting the clock expire on a 4th and 5..
Criminal... you got lucky in a great punt after that, but still.... that can't happen.

BleachedAnusDawg

Maybe Lake just kept it close to the vest to not put our real offense on tape before we need to. Ever thing of that, guys?!

There are people out there who actually believe that, I'm sure.

FireCohen

now more than even @FireCohen

DoogWhisperer

False bravado wears on people and they will want to replace you in 4 years...

But yeah, I’ve been saying this since he was hired. I like swag, I like confidence, but Jimmy’s decision making isn’t indicating either of those things. The opposite in fact.

whlinder

My only hope with Jimmy is that we all laughed at Oregon after Chipsters first gayme. Scoring 8 points and loosing to Pete on the Blue Turf. LOLOL imagine losing to Pete.

Then he ran a train on the conference for 4 years.

AtomicDawg

whlinder said:

My only hope with Jimmy is that we all laughed at Oregon after Chipsters first gayme. Scoring 8 points and loosing to Pete on the Blue Turf. LOLOL imagine losing to Pete.

Then he ran a train on the conference for 4 years.

That would be sweet. But no. The program is headed in a bad direction.

bananasnblondes

Last nights game looked like a bunch of other games we had during the Pete era, especially openers. This looked exactly like the Cal games, the ASU game,, the Rutgers BSU,and Hawaii openers, and especially the Zona game where that little qb and RB gashed us for like 300
The question is... will Jimmy say "I'm glad we won but we have a ton of shit to clean up so we start working on that tomorrow." or does he say, "well, we won the game and thats the goal so we'll just keep plugging along. This season doesn't really count anyways."
If he takes the first route, then Jackson Sirmon, Ty Jones, and Josiah Bronson's positions should immediately be open competition, this JV taking turns at RB thing needs to be nixed, and they need to start figuring out the pass game. You can beat Oregon State by runningbthe ball 55 times but not many other teams. I do think a part of yesterday's offensive plan was due to them thinking Thomson was going to be the starter and then having to switch to someone else right before, at least I'm hopeful that was the case.

DerekJohnson

whlinder said:

My only hope with Jimmy is that we all laughed at Oregon after Chipsters first gayme. Scoring 8 points and loosing to Pete on the Blue Turf. LOLOL imagine losing to Pete.

Then he ran a train on the conference for 4 years.

"Chip Kelley is imploding that program as we speak." - Race Bannon, September 2009

BeerThirty

What I'm telling myself to try and feel a little bit better is a couple plays here or there for us and this game is more like 35-14. Hopefully shit gets worked out.

This year is all practice and Huard 3.0 is on his way

spuden

BeerThirty said:

What I'm telling myself to try and feel a little bit better is a couple plays here or there for us and this game is more like 35-14. Hopefully shit gets worked out.

This year is all practice and Huard 3.0 is on his way

Or, we lose if the Pac-12 refs don't shaft OSU with a shitty spot on 4th and inches from the UW 5. It was as close to a loss as it was to a 35-14 game.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

DerekJohnson said:

whlinder said:

My only hope with Jimmy is that we all laughed at Oregon after Chipsters first gayme. Scoring 8 points and loosing to Pete on the Blue Turf. LOLOL imagine losing to Pete.

Then he ran a train on the conference for 4 years.

"Chip Kelley is imploding that program as we speak." - Race Bannon, September 2009

You never poont out the tims Race is right!!!

DoogCourics

bananasnblondes said:

Last nights game looked like a bunch of other games we had during the Pete era, especially openers. This looked exactly like the Cal games, the ASU game,, the Rutgers BSU,and Hawaii openers, and especially the Zona game where that little qb and RB gashed us for like 300
The question is... will Jimmy say "I'm glad we won but we have a ton of shit to clean up so we start working on that tomorrow." or does he say, "well, we won the game and thats the goal so we'll just keep plugging along. This season doesn't really count anyways."
If he takes the first route, then Jackson Sirmon, Ty Jones, and Josiah Bronson's positions should immediately be open competition, this JV taking turns at RB thing needs to be nixed, and they need to start figuring out the pass game. You can beat Oregon State by runningbthe ball 55 times but not many other teams. I do think a part of yesterday's offensive plan was due to them thinking Thomson was going to be the starter and then having to switch to someone else right before, at least I'm hopeful that was the case.

I agree that Lake has a lot of arrogance that could be his downfall. But the one thing he’s been willing to do is pull players when they aren’t getting it done. Last year Cam was replaced by Asa and Kyler was replaced by McDuffie after the first 2 or 3 games.

So I’m holding hope he will be willing to objectively look at Sirmon and Jones and do the needful.

As for the DL, Tuli and Latu being hurt really made Taki and Bronson play a lot. Not sure if they were trying to protect the freshman, but you need to get Bandes and Tuitele and Ngalu in there.

Lastly, in concur that I think Thomson was supposed to be the starter and then his injury made it between Morris and Sirmon. And Lake after the game mentioned Morris won’t make the mistakes to hurt the team. I think the game plan was to manage the game and don’t make mistakes in a freshman’s first game. Sirmon has all the tools but he must have been making a lot of bad decisions in camp for him not to get a shot.