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  • dOgmasterdOgmaster Posts: 315
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    Yeah, that game sucked, but thankfully it was what Oregon needed to get ride of slingblade. Its much better to have a bad year than to have a bad decade, if you know what I mean. So it was a win/win for both teams.
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  • greenbloodgreenblood Posts: 10,704
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    edited November 12
    dnc said:

    dOgmaster said:

    Yeah, that game sucked, but thankfully it was what Oregon needed to get ride of slingblade. Its much better to have a bad year than to have a bad decade, if you know what I mean. So it was a win/win for both teams.

    People forget that getting rid of Slingblade isn't what saved Oregon from a bad decade.

    Florida State @PatHadenFS'ing Willie Taggart is what saved Oregon.

    People forget that.
    Pat Haden loves the PNW. And thanks Willie!! Willie might be the greatest place holder coach in ncaa history
    dnccreepycougdOgmaster
  • haiehaie Posts: 9,089
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    He cried the next week against Cal, but still.
    dOgmaster
  • haiehaie Posts: 9,089
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    dOgmaster said:

    Yeah, that game sucked, but thankfully it was what Oregon needed to get ride of slingblade. Its much better to have a bad year than to have a bad decade, if you know what I mean. So it was a win/win for both teams.

    Ehh, quooks say that but most likely it was when they got run over by Oregon State.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Posts: 10,704
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    haie said:

    dOgmaster said:

    Yeah, that game sucked, but thankfully it was what Oregon needed to get ride of slingblade. Its much better to have a bad year than to have a bad decade, if you know what I mean. So it was a win/win for both teams.

    Ehh, quooks say that but most likely it was when they got run over by Oregon State.
    Washington created the buyout discussion, and OSU ended the discussion before it even got started.

    Had Oregon lost close to UW, and still lost to OSU like they did, there's a good chance he would have gotten one more year. Getting bomb by UW eliminated any cushion he had, as his odds were greater than 50% he was getting fired regardless of the OSU game. But I agree the OSU took the over 50% chance and raised it to 100%.
    haie
  • greenbloodgreenblood Posts: 10,704
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    Keep in mind, it wasn't just the losses that doomed Helfrich. It was also his uninspired recruiting efforts. Losing Tua, when he basically begged to commit there, and then losing Molden ( A legacy recruit) it was the beginning of the end for him.
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  • Keep in mind, it wasn't just the losses that doomed Helfrich. It was also his uninspired recruiting efforts. Losing Tua, when he basically begged to commit there, and then losing Molden ( A legacy recruit) it was the beginning of the end for him.

    The actively not recruiting or offering early approach thinking Oregon was a “Golden Ticket” was as doomed a strategy as lining up the defense 2 yards off the ball when what’s his face was DC in the dark years.
    greenblood
  • creepycougcreepycoug Posts: 16,777
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    dOgmaster said:

    Yeah, that game sucked, but thankfully it was what Oregon needed to get ride of slingblade. Its much better to have a bad year than to have a bad decade, if you know what I mean. So it was a win/win for both teams.

    They? Know what you mean.
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  • creepycougcreepycoug Posts: 16,777
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    Keep in mind, it wasn't just the losses that doomed Helfrich. It was also his uninspired recruiting efforts. Losing Tua, when he basically begged to commit there, and then losing Molden ( A legacy recruit) it was the beginning of the end for him.

    Sling was turruble.
  • dOgmasterdOgmaster Posts: 315
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    Keep in mind, it wasn't just the losses that doomed Helfrich. It was also his uninspired recruiting efforts. Losing Tua, when he basically begged to commit there, and then losing Molden ( A legacy recruit) it was the beginning of the end for him.

    Unfortunately there was still more to it. Players weren’t being held accountable, skipping the weight room. The players really had no respect for slingblade, and those close to the program new it. The uw game gave the administration the backbone they needed to make a change. The Oregon St game just made it clear to the fans.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Posts: 16,777
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    dOgmaster said:

    Keep in mind, it wasn't just the losses that doomed Helfrich. It was also his uninspired recruiting efforts. Losing Tua, when he basically begged to commit there, and then losing Molden ( A legacy recruit) it was the beginning of the end for him.

    Unfortunately there was still more to it. Players weren’t being held accountable, skipping the weight room. The players really had no respect for slingblade, and those close to the program new it. The uw game gave the administration the backbone they needed to make a change. The Oregon St game just made it clear to the fans.
    I was at the game. Oregon players gave up and just laid down. It’s always obvious when another team does that. Sling’s cookie was baked then and there.
    dOgmaster
  • dtddtd Posts: 1,800
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    dOgmaster said:

    Keep in mind, it wasn't just the losses that doomed Helfrich. It was also his uninspired recruiting efforts. Losing Tua, when he basically begged to commit there, and then losing Molden ( A legacy recruit) it was the beginning of the end for him.

    Unfortunately there was still more to it. Players weren’t being held accountable, skipping the weight room. The players really had no respect for slingblade, and those close to the program new it. The uw game gave the administration the backbone they needed to make a change. The Oregon St game just made it clear to the fans.
    Oh ffs, anyone with half a brain knew the year before when they gave up 500 fucking points.
    ntxduck
  • ntxduckntxduck Posts: 2,420
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    dtd said:

    dOgmaster said:

    Keep in mind, it wasn't just the losses that doomed Helfrich. It was also his uninspired recruiting efforts. Losing Tua, when he basically begged to commit there, and then losing Molden ( A legacy recruit) it was the beginning of the end for him.

    Unfortunately there was still more to it. Players weren’t being held accountable, skipping the weight room. The players really had no respect for slingblade, and those close to the program new it. The uw game gave the administration the backbone they needed to make a change. The Oregon St game just made it clear to the fans.
    Oh ffs, anyone with half a brain knew the year before when they gave up 500 fucking points.
    That was a GOOD eastern Washington team!!
    dtd
  • MikeSeaverMikeSeaver Posts: 1,742
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    dnc said:

    dOgmaster said:

    Yeah, that game sucked, but thankfully it was what Oregon needed to get ride of slingblade. Its much better to have a bad year than to have a bad decade, if you know what I mean. So it was a win/win for both teams.

    People forget that getting rid of Slingblade isn't what saved Oregon from a bad decade.

    Florida State @PatHadenFS'ing Willie Taggart is what saved Oregon.

    People forget that.
    What people really forget is that William Taggart’s recruiting class just won the Rose Bowel.

    70-21 ended the Blade. That’s when the quook army finally realized that there were 10 of us who were right all along.
    dtd
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Posts: 62,824
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    Willie and Lambo

    Uncrowned champions
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  • creepycougcreepycoug Posts: 16,777
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    dnc said:

    dOgmaster said:

    Yeah, that game sucked, but thankfully it was what Oregon needed to get ride of slingblade. Its much better to have a bad year than to have a bad decade, if you know what I mean. So it was a win/win for both teams.

    People forget that getting rid of Slingblade isn't what saved Oregon from a bad decade.

    Florida State @PatHadenFS'ing Willie Taggart is what saved Oregon.

    People forget that.
    What people really forget is that William Taggart’s recruiting class just won the Rose Bowel.

    70-21 ended the Blade. That’s when the quook army finally realized that there were 10 of us who were right all along.
    Zook POTD
  • creepycougcreepycoug Posts: 16,777
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    haie said:

    dOgmaster said:

    Yeah, that game sucked, but thankfully it was what Oregon needed to get ride of slingblade. Its much better to have a bad year than to have a bad decade, if you know what I mean. So it was a win/win for both teams.

    Ehh, quooks say that but most likely it was when they got run over by Oregon State.
    Washington created the buyout discussion, and OSU ended the discussion before it even got started.

    Had Oregon lost close to UW, and still lost to OSU like they did, there's a good chance he would have gotten one more year. Getting bomb by UW eliminated any cushion he had, as his odds were greater than 50% he was getting fired regardless of the OSU game. But I agree the OSU took the over 50% chance and raised it to 100%.
    We? can only speculatre; but based on a lot of years of watching this game, it is usually not just losing unless the losses have really mounted and it's clear there's no coming back. The accelerant tends to be when the AD and every body else can see the coach has lost the team. One of the clearest signs a coach has lost a team is when they openly and obviously lay down and quit during a game. It's exactly why Al Golden got leveled at Miami. The team quit and got boat raced, most notably against fucking Virginia. Those situations have a certain look about them. Oregon laying down at home to Washington was one of those situations. As soon as Herbert threw the first pick they were done.
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