Appropriate use of police force

Swaye

10/10 for that punch while maintaining trigger discipline.

GrundleStiltzkin

Nice. Where’s that at?

RoadTrip

Swaye said:

10/10 for that punch while maintaining trigger discipline.

Nice left!

GrundleStiltzkin

Oh. Foreigners. Sad.

PurpleThrobber

It takes a special kind of stupid to touch the barrel of a gun actively sighted.

Blu82

PurpleThrobber said:

It takes a special kind of stupid to touch the barrel of a gun actively sighted.

This idiot deserves a statue. One that can be torn down when the silent majority gets sufficiently pissed.

Sledog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Xw0rMdcHI

When you try and be nice and don't use enough force it can bite you in the ass.

pawz

Sledog said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Xw0rMdcHI

When you try and be nice and don't use enough force it can bite you in the ass.

This is in fact extremely rare.

But it's the excuse used to escalate escalate escalate as if the power-trippin ego's needed it.

huskyhooligan

More cops are killed feloniously per capita than black Americans. Than white Americans. Than Latin Americans.

Injured on the job is probably high as well.

Bendintheriver

pawz said:

Sledog said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Xw0rMdcHI

When you try and be nice and don't use enough force it can bite you in the ass.

This is in fact extremely rare.

But it's the excuse used to escalate escalate escalate as if the power-trippin ego's needed it.

Its more extremely rare that a cop is going to kill an unarmed black man and the msm and rat leadership are somehow justifying violent protests where there is looting, beatings and arson involved.

Sledog

pawz said:

Sledog said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Xw0rMdcHI

When you try and be nice and don't use enough force it can bite you in the ass.

This is in fact extremely rare.

But it's the excuse used to escalate escalate escalate as if the power-trippin ego's needed it.

It only needs to happen to you once. I always tried to prevent me being killed but you do you!

It cost the guy at Wendys his life. It works both ways.

GreenRiverGatorz

huskyhooligan said:

More cops are killed feloniously per capita than black Americans. Than white Americans. Than Latin Americans.

Injured on the job is probably high as well.

Nobody should be questioning that policing is a dangerous job with a disproportionately high risk of loss of life. All the more reason to require much more training and a much higher bar to employment.

NorthwestFresh

pawz said:

Sledog said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Xw0rMdcHI

When you try and be nice and don't use enough force it can bite you in the ass.

This is in fact extremely rare.

But it's the excuse used to escalate escalate escalate as if the power-trippin ego's needed it.

How rare is it? Why don’t you suit up and spend a day as a cop? Every stop is potentially a death.

NorthwestFresh

GreenRiverGatorz said:

huskyhooligan said:

More cops are killed feloniously per capita than black Americans. Than white Americans. Than Latin Americans.

Injured on the job is probably high as well.

Nobody should be questioning that policing is a dangerous job with a disproportionately high risk of loss of life. All the more reason to require much more training and a much higher bar to employment.

Why don’t you sign up if that’s all it takes?

Houhusky

GreenRiverGatorz said:

huskyhooligan said:

More cops are killed feloniously per capita than black Americans. Than white Americans. Than Latin Americans.

Injured on the job is probably high as well.

Nobody should be questioning that policing is a dangerous job with a disproportionately high risk of loss of life. All the more reason to require much more training and a much higher bar to employment.

you wont get that with defunding...

There is an obvious political trap here; require 1/5 time training, certain competency level in Brazilian jiu jitsu, higher bar of employment, larger police forces... Not necessarily a poor idea, but it is an impossible threshold for the majority of departments... Even just implemented for larger urban departments, It will lead to the same people arguing that police are over funded and over militarized.

If you are looking for general top down solutions; Less laws in general, Higher threshold for guilt, harsher punishments for guilt

RaceBannon

GreenRiverGatorz said:

huskyhooligan said:

More cops are killed feloniously per capita than black Americans. Than white Americans. Than Latin Americans.

Injured on the job is probably high as well.

Nobody should be questioning that policing is a dangerous job with a disproportionately high risk of loss of life. All the more reason to require much more training and a much higher bar to employment.

To me a common thread is the fear that you can see when police are in contact with a large man who may have some chemical help. I'd be afeared too and probably cross the street like I do when I see a crazy person.

You take someone physically weaker and a perp who knows it trying to get the gun and it escalates. Which is the other thing I notice - the police tend to escalate the situation which is not good with someone who is drunk or high

Easy to say behind a computer screen - I get that. But I think the approach of better training, better shape, and tuffer police who we? might have to pay more is called for

Don Knotts invites a fight. The Rock not so much.

Or this guy

GreenRiverGatorz

Houhusky said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

huskyhooligan said:

More cops are killed feloniously per capita than black Americans. Than white Americans. Than Latin Americans.

Injured on the job is probably high as well.

Nobody should be questioning that policing is a dangerous job with a disproportionately high risk of loss of life. All the more reason to require much more training and a much higher bar to employment.

you wont get that with defunding...

There is an obvious political trap here; require 1/5 time training, certain competency level in Brazilian jiu jitsu, higher bar of employment, larger police forces... Not necessarily a poor idea, but it is an impossible threshold for the majority of departments... Even just implemented for larger urban departments, It will lead to the same people arguing that police are over funded and over militarized.

If you are looking for general top down solutions; Less laws in general, Higher threshold for guilt, harsher punishments for guilt

Right, which is why #defundthepolice is unbelievably stupid. Anybody who's had their car broken into in Seattle knows how counterproductive that is.

creepycoug

PurpleThrobber said:

It takes a special kind of stupid to touch the barrel of a gun actively sighted.

Yeah, really. No shit. Reaching for gun bad.

creepycoug

RaceBannon said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

huskyhooligan said:

More cops are killed feloniously per capita than black Americans. Than white Americans. Than Latin Americans.

Injured on the job is probably high as well.

Nobody should be questioning that policing is a dangerous job with a disproportionately high risk of loss of life. All the more reason to require much more training and a much higher bar to employment.

To me a common thread is the fear that you can see when police are in contact with a large man who may have some chemical help. I'd be afeared too and probably cross the street like I do when I see a crazy person.

You take someone physically weaker and a perp who knows it trying to get the gun and it escalates. Which is the other thing I notice - the police tend to escalate the situation which is not good with someone who is drunk or high

Easy to say behind a computer screen - I get that. But I think the approach of better training, better shape, and tuffer police who we? might have to pay more is called for

Don Knotts invites a fight. The Rock not so much.

Or this guy

This. As I mentioned in a thread the other day. Miami cops, back in the day, were all big and strapped af. It attracted a certain kind of person. These fuckers wore their pants and shirts tight and were all big and yoked. It was generally understood that fucking around with cops in Miami was a bad idea. They were aggressive people in the sense of not being fucked with, but a lot of those guys were interested in staying alive to go out clubbing after shift for some T&A.

The troubles there occurred only when guns were drawn and used. Then people questioned. But the physical interventions seldom led to outcry.

Kaepsknee

GreenRiverGatorz said:

huskyhooligan said:

More cops are killed feloniously per capita than black Americans. Than white Americans. Than Latin Americans.

Injured on the job is probably high as well.

Nobody should be questioning that policing is a dangerous job with a disproportionately high risk of loss of life. All the more reason to require much more training and a much higher bar to employment.

I’m sure cutting Police Budgets in half will attract a better cut of individual that can be trained to do these things. Just as the defunding will make such training even possible.

If your goals are to attract better employees that are better trained, you have to pay them more and you have to increase instructors and their salaries as well.

These facts show why the Defund the police crowd is full of shit. They don’t want better police. They want less police so that they can get away with stealing from, assaulting and killing old whitey.

Kaepsknee

GrundleStiltzkin said:

Nice. Where’s that at?

Paris.

Yep. Think about that.

If that occurred here than the Cop would probably be suspended or worse.


Paris is tuffer than every American City. Someone just leak the codes and let’s get this over with.