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Prioritizing who gets medical care

SFGbob
SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
Should the homeless meth-head be on equal footing with 40 year old mother of four on who gets a ventilator?

How about the career criminal vs The 50 year old business man who employs hundreds of people who has been a productive member of society for 30 years?

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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168
    Your examples aside, these are all decisions individual doctors and hospitals are going to have to make here very soon. I wouldn't envy anyone who has to make that choice.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    edited March 2020

    Your examples aside, these are all decisions individual doctors and hospitals are going to have to make here very soon. I wouldn't envy anyone who has to make that choice.

    Those choices should be easy to make. The tough ones would be 70 year old guy vs a 60 year old guy.

    The problem is how fucked up we are now in our society, the homeless meth-head will be given priority in order to combat income inequality and white privilege.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,351
    SFGbob said:

    Your examples aside, these are all decisions individual doctors and hospitals are going to have to make here very soon. I wouldn't envy anyone who has to make that choice.

    Those choices should be easy to make. The tough ones would be 70 year old guy vs a 60 year old guy.

    The problem is how fucked up we are now in our society, the homeless meth-head will be given priority in order to combat income inequality and white privilege.
    ‘Cuz individual doctors somehow buy into that? C’mon. There are actual problems to be dealt with. No need to imagine new ones.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Your examples aside, these are all decisions individual doctors and hospitals are going to have to make here very soon. I wouldn't envy anyone who has to make that choice.

    Those choices should be easy to make. The tough ones would be 70 year old guy vs a 60 year old guy.

    The problem is how fucked up we are now in our society, the homeless meth-head will be given priority in order to combat income inequality and white privilege.
    ‘Cuz individual doctors somehow buy into that? C’mon. There are actual problems to be dealt with. No need to imagine new ones.
    Yeah, doctors are immune to leftwing woke political pressure.

    Leftists being motivated by PC dogma is just a figment of my imagination.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,351
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Your examples aside, these are all decisions individual doctors and hospitals are going to have to make here very soon. I wouldn't envy anyone who has to make that choice.

    Those choices should be easy to make. The tough ones would be 70 year old guy vs a 60 year old guy.

    The problem is how fucked up we are now in our society, the homeless meth-head will be given priority in order to combat income inequality and white privilege.
    ‘Cuz individual doctors somehow buy into that? C’mon. There are actual problems to be dealt with. No need to imagine new ones.
    Yeah, doctors are immune to leftwing woke political pressure.

    Leftists being motivated by PC dogma is just a figment of my imagination.
    The paranoia usually doesn’t set in this early. Who exactly is going to pressure theses doctors to be woke?

    But on the plus side, at least you recognize that medical resources are finite. Some of your colleagues seem to think healthcare is a right.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168
    SFGbob said:

    Your examples aside, these are all decisions individual doctors and hospitals are going to have to make here very soon. I wouldn't envy anyone who has to make that choice.

    Those choices should be easy to make. The tough ones would be 70 year old guy vs a 60 year old guy.

    The problem is how fucked up we are now in our society, the homeless meth-head will be given priority in order to combat income inequality and white privilege.
    Yeah I'm not buying this weird argument you're trying to make that a doctor will now prioritize some "homeless meth-head" over otherwise worthy lives due to woke leftist policies. There's plenty of real narratives worthy of your indignation, you don't have to invent new ones.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    SFGbob said:

    Your examples aside, these are all decisions individual doctors and hospitals are going to have to make here very soon. I wouldn't envy anyone who has to make that choice.

    Those choices should be easy to make. The tough ones would be 70 year old guy vs a 60 year old guy.

    The problem is how fucked up we are now in our society, the homeless meth-head will be given priority in order to combat income inequality and white privilege.
    Yeah I'm not buying this weird argument you're trying to make that a doctor will now prioritize some "homeless meth-head" over otherwise worthy lives due to woke leftist policies. There's plenty of real narratives worthy of your indignation, you don't have to invent new ones.
    Yeah, crafting policies based upon white privilege and income inequality and striking a blow against the patriarchy and Western Civilization are just fantasies of mine. Never happens in the real world.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,351
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Your examples aside, these are all decisions individual doctors and hospitals are going to have to make here very soon. I wouldn't envy anyone who has to make that choice.

    Those choices should be easy to make. The tough ones would be 70 year old guy vs a 60 year old guy.

    The problem is how fucked up we are now in our society, the homeless meth-head will be given priority in order to combat income inequality and white privilege.
    Yeah I'm not buying this weird argument you're trying to make that a doctor will now prioritize some "homeless meth-head" over otherwise worthy lives due to woke leftist policies. There's plenty of real narratives worthy of your indignation, you don't have to invent new ones.
    Yeah, crafting policies based upon white privilege and income inequality and striking a blow against the patriarchy and Western Civilization are just fantasies of mine. Never happens in the real world.
    Most doctors will still kill you the old fashioned way—through negligence and/or inattention.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    Look at this asshole arguing for Obamacare death panels!!! Oh wait...


  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    GDS said:

    Look at this asshole arguing for Obamacare death panels!!! Oh wait...


    What he is saying isn't wrong. But if you allow the medical system to be completely overwhelmed with people ill with the virus that number will be bigger and it won't be just old people who will die.