Democrats Decide Getting the Orange Man Is More Important than Saving Lives

DJDuck

This is pretty unbelievable.

Senate Democrats filibustered a procedural vote to end debate on the phase 3 Wuhan virus relief bill on Sunday. This came after negotiations had agreed to a framework bill, one which gave Democrats almost everything they wanted.

https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/03/22/democrats-filibuster-wuhan-virus-relief-bill-more-worried-about-hurting-trump/

Bendintheriver

That is exactly what the rats did yesterday. They don't care how many die or are destroyed by this pandemic. They want Trump to lose the election. For fucks sake they want open borders and called Trump a racist for closing down travel with China.

HHusky

I was told Daddy alone can fix our problems. Not sure why you Cheeto dust fairies are looking at Congress.

Bendintheriver

HHusky said:

I was told Daddy alone can fix our problems. Not sure why you Cheeto dust fairies are looking at Congress.

Did you say something? If you did, it clearly wasn't worth your time.

PurpleThrobber

HHusky said:

I was told Daddy alone can fix our problems. Not sure why you Cheeto dust fairies are looking at Congress.

Nobody here ever said that, Dazzler.

Postal91

HHusky said:

I was told Daddy alone can fix our problems. Not sure why you Cheeto dust fairies are looking at Congress.

No wonder the lefties are such fans of abortions when they see what they ultimately produce. Good lord the misery you must be in.

DerekJohnson

HHusky said:

I was told Daddy alone can fix our problems. Not sure why you Cheeto dust fairies are looking at Congress.

I have never seen any poster ever say that

dflea

So a 500 billion dollar slush fund for Mnuchin to distribute without review is OK with you, huh, you fuckin' socialist cum guzzler? Christ.

You socialist cheerleader Trump lovers are really a spectacle to behold. What a fuckin' joke.

SFGbob

dflea said:

So a 500 billion dollar slush fund for Mnuchin to distribute without review is OK with you, huh, you fuckin' socialist cum guzzler? Christ.

You socialist cheerleader Trump lovers are really a spectacle to behold. What a fuckin' joke.

What do you want to bet that this isn't an accurate description of the fund. The "slush" fund was initially signed off on by the Senate Rats.

dflea

SFGbob said:

dflea said:

So a 500 billion dollar slush fund for Mnuchin to distribute without review is OK with you, huh, you fuckin' socialist cum guzzler? Christ.

You socialist cheerleader Trump lovers are really a spectacle to behold. What a fuckin' joke.

What do you want to bet that this isn't an accurate description of the fund. The "slush" fund was initially signed off on by the Senate Rats.

And that makes the socialism ok?

I don't even know who the fuck I'm talking to any more.

SFGbob

dflea said:

SFGbob said:

dflea said:

So a 500 billion dollar slush fund for Mnuchin to distribute without review is OK with you, huh, you fuckin' socialist cum guzzler? Christ.

You socialist cheerleader Trump lovers are really a spectacle to behold. What a fuckin' joke.

What do you want to bet that this isn't an accurate description of the fund. The "slush" fund was initially signed off on by the Senate Rats.

And that makes the socialism ok?

I don't even know who the fuck I'm talking to any more.

Fuck that strawman ass lightweight

http://twitter.com/_WilliamsonBen/status/1241862420366270465

dflea

Ben Williamson's take is what you bring to the argument? Like I give a fuck about his stupid opinion. It's almost as useless as yours.

Go take off your socialism cheerleader skirt, ya fuckin' clown.

LebamDawg

The only thing I am positive about is that the Dems and Repubs are both going to have relatives get rich off helping the 'workers'

RoadTrip

dflea said:

SFGbob said:

dflea said:

So a 500 billion dollar slush fund for Mnuchin to distribute without review is OK with you, huh, you fuckin' socialist cum guzzler? Christ.

You socialist cheerleader Trump lovers are really a spectacle to behold. What a fuckin' joke.

What do you want to bet that this isn't an accurate description of the fund. The "slush" fund was initially signed off on by the Senate Rats.

And that makes the socialism ok?

I don't even know who the fuck I'm talking to any more.

That's because you're a 5'5" dipshit

Sledog

dflea said:

So a 500 billion dollar slush fund for Mnuchin to distribute without review is OK with you, huh, you fuckin' socialist cum guzzler? Christ.

You socialist cheerleader Trump lovers are really a spectacle to behold. What a fuckin' joke.

Is there a list of companies that already need saving? Some won't. Some will. How are they supposed to compile a list?

Everything was agreed to with bipartisan support until Nancy thought she could damage Trump with stopping it.

Demorats will do ANYTHING to damage Trump. Disgusting.

HHusky

DerekJohnson said:

HHusky said:

I was told Daddy alone can fix our problems. Not sure why you Cheeto dust fairies are looking at Congress.

I have never seen any poster ever say that

Daddy famously said it.

Dementia is a cruel mistress.

PurpleThrobber

Sledog said:

dflea said:

So a 500 billion dollar slush fund for Mnuchin to distribute without review is OK with you, huh, you fuckin' socialist cum guzzler? Christ.

You socialist cheerleader Trump lovers are really a spectacle to behold. What a fuckin' joke.

Is there a list of companies that already need saving? Some won't. Some will. How are they supposed to compile a list?

Everything was agreed to with bipartisan support until Nancy thought she could damage Trump with stopping it.

Demorats will do ANYTHING to damage Trump. Disgusting.

This is finance negotiation - and the Golden Rule in finance is: He who has the gold makes the rules.

If you take the gubmint money here's but a few of the conditions the Throbber would impose....because the Throbber makes Mr. Wonderful look like Mr. Rogers when it comes to finance negotiations.

I'd probably open this up to Joe Public to participate similar to a Reg A+ offering or some such thing - @creepycoug feel free to chime in because I know that is your world too. Similar to a war bonds effort rather than the Fed just printing more funny money but I could probably be talked out of that. Worst case, Joe Public investor gets the same right of participation as the US gubmint.

My assumption would be any bailout funds would be similar to GM - preferred convertibles or some such thing.

1 - No stock buybacks for a specified period of time (I'm thinking like 5 to 10 years). The gubmint investor group either gets the benefit of a stock run up during that window or gets paid back. Qualified investment professionals similar to pension fund managers appointed to manage the funds. Not some gubmint desk jockey.

2 - Any firm taking gubmint money, CEO total compensation including the fair value of options, performance warrants, loans, etc are capped at a multiple of the average workers pay. Not gonna fly if the Lazy B CEO is making 1000 times more than Johnny Riveter and Suzie in accounting. And most of these fucks are worth that much any way.

3 - Decertification of all union activity for three years. Fuck those guys. Your workers stand to gain the most with continued employment. GTFO of the way.

4 - No dividends paid until end of term in Item 1 or payback of government subsidy.

There's probably a few more but that's off the top of my head.

SFGbob

Sledog said:

dflea said:

So a 500 billion dollar slush fund for Mnuchin to distribute without review is OK with you, huh, you fuckin' socialist cum guzzler? Christ.

You socialist cheerleader Trump lovers are really a spectacle to behold. What a fuckin' joke.

Is there a list of companies that already need saving? Some won't. Some will. How are they supposed to compile a list?

Everything was agreed to with bipartisan support until Nancy thought she could damage Trump with stopping it.

Demorats will do ANYTHING to damage Trump. Disgusting.

Exactly, this is a fast moving economic meltdown. To think that we know now all of the sectors of the economy that are going to need help is fucking stupid.

The Rats are holding this up in part to impose greater emission standards on the airlines and more Green New Deal nonsense.

Kaepsknee

This is tiresome.

People believing that this was a good deal for the American people and then using "the Democrats don't want to help you!!!, they only want to make Orange Man look bad!!!" is a farce.

This was a blank check of $500,000,000,000 to give to cronies with no real motivation for them not to do what they did in 2009. Pump the stock prices up with buybacks and lay off American workers for off shore workers making a 1/3 of the salary.

And stfu with your " But these corporations will go under and be gone forever, taking all of those jobs away forever!!!!"

The current version is taking advantage of a reeling public, market and economy to pad wallets of CEO's and those just a little further down the trough. Whereas Joe Blow gets a few crumbs to buys some groceries and pay his utilities for a couple months.

insinceredawg

Bob loves socialism when his side proposes it. What a bitchass partisan Kunt.

Care to explain they placed this stipulation in? "Recipients of loans in the current bailout legislation wouldn’t need to be disclosed for six months."

Here's a hint:

https://twitter.com/PodSaveAmerica/status/1241871426807672832

SFGbob

salemcoog said:

This is tiresome.

People believing that this was a good deal for the American people and then using "the Democrats don't want to help you!!!, they only want to make Orange Man look bad!!!" is a farce.

This was a blank check of $500,000,000,000 to give to cronies with no real motivation for them not to do what they did in 2009. Pump the stock prices up with buybacks and lay off American workers for off shore workers making a 1/3 of the salary.

And stfu with your " But these corporations will go under and be gone forever, taking all of those jobs away forever!!!!"

The current version is taking advantage of a reeling public, market and economy to pad wallets of CEO's and those just a little further down the trough. Whereas Joe Blow gets a few crumbs to buys some groceries and pay his utilities for a couple months.

The same kind of flexibility was baked into the TARP bailout. It's why that money was available for the auto bailout.