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I'm a classical liberal, not a libertarian

MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
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The Libertarian Party is officially a joke. If I were opposed to liberty, and wanted to undermine what it means to be a libertarian and demolish the party from within, I would do exactly what is being done. I would install a homeless unicorn socialist with a rubber boot on his fucking head. I would tell people we're simply mocking government and politics, all while merely mocking what could be the only vehicle fighting for liberty in the final stronghold on Earth.

The Libertarian Party is an unserious party, whose members have completed the process of deconstruction who seek nothing but mockery and chaos. With limited prospects, its members stand for nothing. They are fundamental losers. Those who donate money to the party are doing the equivalent of placing wagers on the Washington Generals to beat the Globetrotters.

If you are in the party, and have any remaining self-respect, LEAVE. Don't waste your time, don't waste your money, don't give them attention, move on. It's dead, it's time to start over. Growing liberty via a political party is not effective. Politics comes last. We must first build communities, small networks, and culture. Politics run downstream from culture.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,675 Founders Club
    Michael Medved called them Losertarians before TDS cost him his radio show
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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    RaceBannon said:

    Michael Medved called them Losertarians before TDS cost him his radio show

    ^this
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  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,073
    I believe you're a Salty Cunt
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,825 Standard Supporter
    Been railing on this from the other direction for months - 'liberalism' is not classic liberalism. The term has been co-opted by the "progressive left".

    "Libertarians" have been coopted by the tinfoil extreme right.

    Make Classic Liberalism Great Again - which is why there will be Trumps in the White House for the next 12 years or so.

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  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,179 Swaye's Wigwam
    For a long tim in the US it's been all about co-opting a party and winning in primaries. The Tea Party did it, the progressive left is doing it right now, and Trump did it to the GOP in 2016.
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  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,148 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    Michael Medved called them Losertarians before TDS cost him his radio show

    He’s still on the air.

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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,675 Founders Club
    Not here
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  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,148 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    Not here

    Salem Radio bumped his show for Gorka. But he’s still in the air and syndicated in markets in Seattle. But not being a boomer I don’t listen to talk radio much or watch cable news.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,675 Founders Club
    He lost it. And most of his audience

    People dont tune into talk radio to watch CNN trash Trump

    I listened to him off and on over the years. Kind of fag but it was pretty good

    Started on PBS At the Movies
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  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,710 Standard Supporter
    I describe myself as a conservative with strong libertarian leanings. Maybe I change that to classic liberal leanings. But today official libertarians are pretty nuts. Any political belief system should be consistent with actual human behavior and common sense. I supported gay marriage, pot legalization and legalized prostitution for decades. But I never supported open borders. Supposed libertarians like both the dead and living Koch brothers do. They pretend that in a perfect libertarian society there would be no welfare and thus no incentive to cross borders. We don't have a no welfare society and won't ever have one. Thus arguing for open borders just means an evaporation of a free enterprise, liberty and freedom society. Importing MS 13 gang member into the US is madness. Same with tariffs. I believe in free trade. I don't believe that means we can have free trade into the US, but we can't have free trade into the rest of the world. Or have our intellectual property protected.

    National Review and the Weekly Standard destroyed themselves over Trump. They didn't destroy themselves over PIPS or barry. They never wanted the fight, just stupid money from conservatives they were pawning. Toss Medved onto that dung heap. Peggy Noonan and George Will are rotting there also.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,675 Founders Club
    National Review and the Weekly Standard destroyed themselves over Trump. They didn't destroy themselves over PIPS or barry. They never wanted the fight, just stupid money from conservatives they were pawning. Toss Medved onto that dung heap. Peggy Noonan and George Will are rotting there also.


    Good point. That was Medveds problem too. Went to college with Hillary

    The swamp won
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  • AtomicPissAtomicPiss Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,538 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    He lost it. And most of his audience

    People dont tune into talk radio to watch CNN trash Trump

    I listened to him off and on over the years. Kind of fag but it was pretty good

    Started on PBS At the Movies

    He was highly intelligent but King of the Dorks
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  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,939 Swaye's Wigwam
    MikeDamone said:

    The Libertarian Party is officially a joke. If I were opposed to liberty, and wanted to undermine what it means to be a libertarian and demolish the party from within, I would do exactly what is being done. I would install a homeless unicorn socialist with a rubber boot on his fucking head. I would tell people we're simply mocking government and politics, all while merely mocking what could be the only vehicle fighting for liberty in the final stronghold on Earth.

    The Libertarian Party is an unserious party, whose members have completed the process of deconstruction who seek nothing but mockery and chaos. With limited prospects, its members stand for nothing. They are fundamental losers. Those who donate money to the party are doing the equivalent of placing wagers on the Washington Generals to beat the Globetrotters.

    If you are in the party, and have any remaining self-respect, LEAVE. Don't waste your time, don't waste your money, don't give them attention, move on. It's dead, it's time to start over. Growing liberty via a political party is not effective. Politics comes last. We must first build communities, small networks, and culture. Politics run downstream from culture.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4GAj2v4BIE
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  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,742 Standard Supporter
    Any political belief system should be consistent with actual human behavior and common sense.

    so you are in favor of abolishing all political parties then - so am I - just a free for all at the voting mail box
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