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Yeah, I’m not seeing huge improvement.NEsnake12 said:
More context:RoadDawg55 said:Dak got better with Moore. To go right from player, to QB coach, to coordinator is impressive. You don’t see that often. Obviously he was thought of very highly.
I don’t think he would run Pete’s offense. I would take Monken over him because of Monken’s success at OK State and Southern Miss, but Moore could be really good. It would be a high upside hire.
Huard is basically a bigger and better Moore. He seems like a perfect guy to groom him. Moore is young, he has credibility, and he probably would be a guy that kids would relate to. Hating the idea of him is strange. There are a lot of positives about him and why he would be a good hire. -
I think he is trying to say that the cowboys had to lean on passing game more this year. Total yards jumped significantly.DoogWhisperer said:
Yeah, I’m not seeing huge improvement.NEsnake12 said:
More context:RoadDawg55 said:Dak got better with Moore. To go right from player, to QB coach, to coordinator is impressive. You don’t see that often. Obviously he was thought of very highly.
I don’t think he would run Pete’s offense. I would take Monken over him because of Monken’s success at OK State and Southern Miss, but Moore could be really good. It would be a high upside hire.
Huard is basically a bigger and better Moore. He seems like a perfect guy to groom him. Moore is young, he has credibility, and he probably would be a guy that kids would relate to. Hating the idea of him is strange. There are a lot of positives about him and why he would be a good hire.
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For a team that couldn’t beat anyone good and didn’t make the playoffs. But still ...Tequilla said:For those knocking Moore as a recruiter ...
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If Kellen Moore had nothing to do with Pete, people would be excited about him. They would think : great college QB, was given the QB coach job when he was cut, promoted to coordinator after one year. Then, the Cowboys offense performed pretty well in that one year. But because he once played for Pete, he sucks and is a failure.
It’s stupid. A lot of teams (even good ones) would be happy with hiring him as a coordinator. Internet UW fans are not because he has some association with Pete. He has no association when it comes to coaching. I don’t know who they think we are getting as OC.
They spout bullshit like Bama or LSU wouldn’t do this when LSU hired a complete unknown guy (that wasn’t even OC, just brought the spread) and Bama cycles thru OC’s every year. Locksley (one of the worst head coaches in college football), Daboll (fired in KC in 2012, a position coach in the NFL), Sark, etc. I honestly don’t know who would be considered good enough or acceptable for this job. Coordinators are always fired head coaches, guys making a jump from a lower tier school, or guys that are getting a promotion, or guys leaving a bad situation (like Wilcox).
I’m just tired of the complaining just to complain. Complain when the offense sucks. There is nothing to complain about until then or make rash judgements that our program is fucked. -
Preach.RoadDawg55 said:If Kellen Moore had nothing to do with Pete, people would be excited about him. They would think : great college QB, was given the QB coach job when he was cut, promoted to coordinator after one year. Then, the Cowboys offense performed pretty well in that one year. But because he once played for Pete, he sucks and is a failure.
It’s stupid. A lot of teams (even good ones) would be happy with hiring him as a coordinator. Internet UW fans are not because he has some association with Pete. He has no association when it comes to coaching. I don’t know who they think we are getting as OC.
They spout bullshit like Bama or LSU wouldn’t do this when LSU hired a complete unknown guy (that wasn’t even OC, just brought the spread) and Bama cycles thru OC’s every year. Locksley (one of the worst head coaches in college football), Daboll (fired in KC in 2012, a position coach in the NFL), Sark, etc. I honestly don’t know who would be considered good enough or acceptable for this job. Coordinators are always fired head coaches, guys making a jump from a lower tier school, or guys that are getting a promotion, or guys leaving a bad situation (like Wilcox).
I’m just tired of the complaining just to complain. Complain when the offense sucks. There is nothing to complain about until then or make rash judgements that our program is fucked.
Everyone agrees that we need to run a different offense, but I'm with you that I don't understand why everyone assumes hiring Moore means more of the same. It's like everyone against the hire thinks that as an offensive coordinator, you're beholden to run the same offensive scheme you ran as a player in college. Moore has been out of Pete's orbit for 9 years. His dad ran spread option at Prosser. I have no clue if he would be good, but I wouldn't hate the move either. -
did the cowboys make the playoffs? there was a material drop off in offensive production when cowboys played decent teams. so forgive if we are skeptical off him. he has too much of a pete stench for my liking.RoadDawg55 said:If Kellen Moore had nothing to do with Pete, people would be excited about him. They would think : great college QB, was given the QB coach job when he was cut, promoted to coordinator after one year. Then, the Cowboys offense performed pretty well in that one year. But because he once played for Pete, he sucks and is a failure.
It’s stupid. A lot of teams (even good ones) would be happy with hiring him as a coordinator. Internet UW fans are not because he has some association with Pete. He has no association when it comes to coaching. I don’t know who they think we are getting as OC.
They spout bullshit like Bama or LSU wouldn’t do this when LSU hired a complete unknown guy (that wasn’t even OC, just brought the spread) and Bama cycles thru OC’s every year. Locksley (one of the worst head coaches in college football), Daboll (fired in KC in 2012, a position coach in the NFL), Sark, etc. I honestly don’t know who would be considered good enough or acceptable for this job. Coordinators are always fired head coaches, guys making a jump from a lower tier school, or guys that are getting a promotion, or guys leaving a bad situation (like Wilcox).
I’m just tired of the complaining just to complain. Complain when the offense sucks. There is nothing to complain about until then or make rash judgements that our program is fucked. -
I would be fine with hiring Moore. The association with Pete thing is FS as FS gets. Win the conference every few years, put yourself in position to have a shot at a playoff spot and maybe.....just maybe...win a natty once every 30 decades. Or we can be the fan base that expects natties every year and when we don't get it, we act like complete pricks and make the program a faith based dooged out aids shelter
So, yeah, LIPO -
if pete had a somewhat of a decent offense we would have won the conference 4 years in a rowdannarc said:I would be fine with hiring Moore. The association with Pete thing is FS as FS gets. Win the conference every few years, put yourself in position to have a shot at a playoff spot and maybe.....just maybe...win a natty once every 30 decades. Or we can be the fan base that expects natties every year and when we don't get it, we act like complete pricks and make the program a faith based dooged out aids shelter
So, yeah, LIPO -
That fine, but we are gonna Doog about the OC if the Browns and Bucs that never made the playoffs? Tbh, I want Monken over Moore, but it’s all stupid.FireCohen said:
did the cowboys make the playoffs? there was a material drop off in offensive production when cowboys played decent teams. so forgive if we are skeptical off him. he has too much of a pete stench for my liking.RoadDawg55 said:If Kellen Moore had nothing to do with Pete, people would be excited about him. They would think : great college QB, was given the QB coach job when he was cut, promoted to coordinator after one year. Then, the Cowboys offense performed pretty well in that one year. But because he once played for Pete, he sucks and is a failure.
It’s stupid. A lot of teams (even good ones) would be happy with hiring him as a coordinator. Internet UW fans are not because he has some association with Pete. He has no association when it comes to coaching. I don’t know who they think we are getting as OC.
They spout bullshit like Bama or LSU wouldn’t do this when LSU hired a complete unknown guy (that wasn’t even OC, just brought the spread) and Bama cycles thru OC’s every year. Locksley (one of the worst head coaches in college football), Daboll (fired in KC in 2012, a position coach in the NFL), Sark, etc. I honestly don’t know who would be considered good enough or acceptable for this job. Coordinators are always fired head coaches, guys making a jump from a lower tier school, or guys that are getting a promotion, or guys leaving a bad situation (like Wilcox).
I’m just tired of the complaining just to complain. Complain when the offense sucks. There is nothing to complain about until then or make rash judgements that our program is fucked. -
not stupid, but the off season. you know how this shit goesRoadDawg55 said:
That fine, but we are gonna Doog about the OC if the Browns and Bucs that never made the playoffs? Tbh, I want Monken over Moore, but it’s all stupid.FireCohen said:
did the cowboys make the playoffs? there was a material drop off in offensive production when cowboys played decent teams. so forgive if we are skeptical off him. he has too much of a pete stench for my liking.RoadDawg55 said:If Kellen Moore had nothing to do with Pete, people would be excited about him. They would think : great college QB, was given the QB coach job when he was cut, promoted to coordinator after one year. Then, the Cowboys offense performed pretty well in that one year. But because he once played for Pete, he sucks and is a failure.
It’s stupid. A lot of teams (even good ones) would be happy with hiring him as a coordinator. Internet UW fans are not because he has some association with Pete. He has no association when it comes to coaching. I don’t know who they think we are getting as OC.
They spout bullshit like Bama or LSU wouldn’t do this when LSU hired a complete unknown guy (that wasn’t even OC, just brought the spread) and Bama cycles thru OC’s every year. Locksley (one of the worst head coaches in college football), Daboll (fired in KC in 2012, a position coach in the NFL), Sark, etc. I honestly don’t know who would be considered good enough or acceptable for this job. Coordinators are always fired head coaches, guys making a jump from a lower tier school, or guys that are getting a promotion, or guys leaving a bad situation (like Wilcox).
I’m just tired of the complaining just to complain. Complain when the offense sucks. There is nothing to complain about until then or make rash judgements that our program is fucked.
