25 greatest coaches never to win a Natty (Pete at #19)

YellowSnow

- Pete at #19 seems a little low; I could see him around 10ish
- Bill Snyder at #1 WTF?
- Bo at #2 seems about right.
- How the heck Terry Donahue never won a Natty but DJ did is beyond me.

https://fansided.com/2015/09/26/25-best-college-football-coaches-never-win-national-title-championship/26/

dnc

Where's Chip on that list?

I don't have the patience to click through.

YellowSnow

dnc said:

Where's Chip on that list?

I don't have the patience to click through.

He's not. He should be on it. Greatest 4 year run of any coach never to win a natty.

RaceBannon

I think Bo at 1 or 2 is about right. The Ten Year war with Woody got a couple natties for tOSU. Bo had a well documented Rose Bowl problem and usually lost a little one every year too

Of course Bo's first Rose Bowl win was against the DAWGS

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

YellowSnow said:

- Pete at #19 seems a little low; I could see him around 10ish
- Bill Snyder at #1 WTF?
- Bo at #2 seems about right.
- How the heck Terry Donahue never won a Natty but DJ did is beyond me.

https://fansided.com/2015/09/26/25-best-college-football-coaches-never-win-national-title-championship/26/

The article is 4 years old so there's that.

whlinder

YellowSnow said:

- Pete at #19 seems a little low; I could see him around 10ish
- Bill Snyder at #1 WTF?
- Bo at #2 seems about right.
- How the heck Terry Donahue never won a Natty but DJ did is beyond me.

https://fansided.com/2015/09/26/25-best-college-football-coaches-never-win-national-title-championship/26/

What's wrong with Snyder at 1? No power conference program was ever as bad as Kansas State, with resources worse than all other similar schools, and he made them good.

dnc

whlinder said:

YellowSnow said:

- Pete at #19 seems a little low; I could see him around 10ish
- Bill Snyder at #1 WTF?
- Bo at #2 seems about right.
- How the heck Terry Donahue never won a Natty but DJ did is beyond me.

https://fansided.com/2015/09/26/25-best-college-football-coaches-never-win-national-title-championship/26/

What's wrong with Snyder at 1? No power conference program was ever as bad as Kansas State, with resources worse than all other similar schools, and he made them good.

Snyder did an amazing job but he never struck me as a guy who could move to LSU and win a title.

He was uniquely built to maximize his skill set at K State. Like Pete at Boise.

YellowSnow

whlinder said:

YellowSnow said:

- Pete at #19 seems a little low; I could see him around 10ish
- Bill Snyder at #1 WTF?
- Bo at #2 seems about right.
- How the heck Terry Donahue never won a Natty but DJ did is beyond me.

https://fansided.com/2015/09/26/25-best-college-football-coaches-never-win-national-title-championship/26/

What's wrong with Snyder at 1? No power conference program was ever as bad as Kansas State, with resources worse than all other similar schools, and he made them good.

His was a great coach and Top 10. Never really was in Natty contention. He barely beat Neu in the Holiday Bowl.

RaceBannon

YellowSnow said:

whlinder said:

YellowSnow said:

- Pete at #19 seems a little low; I could see him around 10ish
- Bill Snyder at #1 WTF?
- Bo at #2 seems about right.
- How the heck Terry Donahue never won a Natty but DJ did is beyond me.

https://fansided.com/2015/09/26/25-best-college-football-coaches-never-win-national-title-championship/26/

What's wrong with Snyder at 1? No power conference program was ever as bad as Kansas State, with resources worse than all other similar schools, and he made them good.

His was a great coach and Top 10. Never really was in Natty contention. He barely beat Neu in the Holiday Bowl.

They choked their best chance to win the natty and that might have been 99 when they won the holiday bowl. I was there

Didn't they lose the Big 12 title game as an unbeaten?

RaceBannon

Why yes it was

He had a nice run. His second time around wasn't as good

YellowSnow

@RaceBannon we need some story time with Uncle Race. Why couldn't Terry Donahue win a Natty? Don James is Terry Donahue + 1991.

YellowSnow

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

YellowSnow said:

- Pete at #19 seems a little low; I could see him around 10ish
- Bill Snyder at #1 WTF?
- Bo at #2 seems about right.
- How the heck Terry Donahue never won a Natty but DJ did is beyond me.

https://fansided.com/2015/09/26/25-best-college-football-coaches-never-win-national-title-championship/26/

The article is 4 years old so there's that.

What the fuck do you think this? www.bowdowntowashington.com ? IDGAF about the details or execution.

RaceBannon

YellowSnow said:

@RaceBannon we need some story time with Uncle Race. Why couldn't Terry Donahue win a Natty? Don James is Terry Donahue + 1991.

UCLA played a very tough non conference schedule every year. Most Pac 10 teams did but UCLA was playing Nebraska and stuff. They would start slow and hit their stride in league play. I don't think he cared. The Rose Bowl was the prize. He wanted his team ready to play in conference

dflea

YellowSnow said:

@RaceBannon we need some story time with Uncle Race. Why couldn't Terry Donahue win a Natty? Don James is Terry Donahue + 1991.

My old man is an Illinois alum. He got so pissed when Donahue's Bruins dismantled the Illini in the 84 Rose Bowl that I got scared and left the room to make sure I wasn't within reach when he tipped over.

He's still pissed about it. lol

rodmansrage

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

YellowSnow said:

- Pete at #19 seems a little low; I could see him around 10ish
- Bill Snyder at #1 WTF?
- Bo at #2 seems about right.
- How the heck Terry Donahue never won a Natty but DJ did is beyond me.

https://fansided.com/2015/09/26/25-best-college-football-coaches-never-win-national-title-championship/26/

The article is 4 years old so there's that.

and its fansided for fuck sakes.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

rodmansrage said:

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

YellowSnow said:

- Pete at #19 seems a little low; I could see him around 10ish
- Bill Snyder at #1 WTF?
- Bo at #2 seems about right.
- How the heck Terry Donahue never won a Natty but DJ did is beyond me.

https://fansided.com/2015/09/26/25-best-college-football-coaches-never-win-national-title-championship/26/

The article is 4 years old so there's that.

and its fansided for fuck sakes.

What the fuck do you think this? www.bowdowntowashington.com ? IDGAF about the details or execution.

whlinder

Snyder Coug'd a 15 point 4Q lead in the inaugural B12 title game to lose in OT to A&M and miss out on the first BCS championship game where they would have played Tennessee.

Switzer once said that Snyder wasn’t the coach of the year, or even the coach of the decade — he was the coach of the century. What’s happening in Manhattan, Kan., is confirmation that Snyder needs to be considered not only one of the best college coaches of his generation, but one of the greatest college coaches of all-time.

Link

The "could he win a title at LSU" is an interesting test. The fact that he came so close to getting there makes me want to argue that he could. He is to many degrees Pete at Boise, but Pete already had a decent program when he took over, while Snyder built KSU from utterly nothing. And he wasn't a full OKG guy, he took tons of players from the JUCO ranks and turned them into amazing college players. His recruiting was in many ways what we wanted for Pete's program, taking non-OKGs and turning them into OKGs.

RaceBannon

K State was the worst program in America for decades. No exaggeration.

Take Rutgers or Kansas today and think of them being that bad forever. That was K State

creepycoug

Looks like a list of losers.

Thanks, but I won't be clicking through.

1to392831weretaken

rodmansrage said:

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

YellowSnow said:

- Pete at #19 seems a little low; I could see him around 10ish
- Bill Snyder at #1 WTF?
- Bo at #2 seems about right.
- How the heck Terry Donahue never won a Natty but DJ did is beyond me.

https://fansided.com/2015/09/26/25-best-college-football-coaches-never-win-national-title-championship/26/

The article is 4 years old so there's that.

and its fansided for fuck sakes.

Yella needs more tim to get his reads up?

creepycoug

RaceBannon said:

K State was the worst program in America for decades. No exaggeration.

Take Rutgers or Kansas today and think of them being that bad forever. That was K State

It's true.

Snyder was a damn good coach. Talk about making chicken salad out of chicken shit.