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  • ramenduck said:

    Shuck gained a lot of experience this year, but IMO did not improve much from game #1 to game #7. In fact, possibly the opposite.

    Good kid. I hope he puts it together, but I'm more optimistic about what we have coming in.

    I really hope he succeeds in Eugene but he seems like a difference-maker in the Big Sky but just a guy in FBS, and just a guy doesn’t make the playoff.
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    Give Shough a running game, a right tackle and hopefully Troy Franklin if @WilburHooksHands doesn't flip him and he'll mostly be fine if he keeps the job. You also need to instill into him that attacking the middle of the field like he's Justin Herbert is akin to Jamie Moyer attacking hitters like he's Nolan Ryan.
    RatherBeBrewing
  • SFGbobSFGbob Posts: 19,527
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    ramenduck said:

    Shuck gained a lot of experience this year, but IMO did not improve much from game #1 to game #7. In fact, possibly the opposite.

    Good kid. I hope he puts it together, but I'm more optimistic about what we have coming in.

    I really hope he succeeds in Eugene but he seems like a difference-maker in the Big Sky but just a guy in FBS, and just a guy doesn’t make the playoff.
    I've not heard any news to the contrary, but Brown should come back. I think he's got a great shot at beating out Shuck in the off season. He showed what he's capable of with his arm and is a much bigger running threat. The RPO works best when the defense is afraid of your QB holding the ball. If they're not, it's an instantly shitty offense.
    It would also be nice to have a QB who wasn't good for at least one brutal turnover a game. His inability to use the middle of the field is also very troubling. The Shuck experiment is over, time to move on.
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  • rodmansragerodmansrage Posts: 3,198
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    Fife will be better than Harrington

    Eason will be better than Browning.

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  • I may have promised to gouge my eyes out if I see Tyler Shough starting another game.
    I’m on the record as saying I don’t want the offense to Shough anymore. Amazingly, after rewatching games, I don’t think he’s a lost cause. I still want a different QB and am 81% sure he sucks and should be playing for Northern Arizona, but he’s not as bad as I had convinced myself.

    * Consistency is the issue.
    Great:
    WTF?

    Decision making and pocket presence is suspect, when he makes the obvious choice, or the right decision on where to go or whether to take off it can look good.





    My theory is that starting from around the third or fourth quarter of the Oregon State game the yips got him and took an above average QB to Jeff Lockiean levels. Chuck Knoblauch.
  • ntxduckntxduck Posts: 2,617
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    I may have promised to gouge my eyes out if I see Tyler Shough starting another game.
    I’m on the record as saying I don’t want the offense to Shough anymore. Amazingly, after rewatching games, I don’t think he’s a lost cause. I still want a different QB and am 81% sure he sucks and should be playing for Northern Arizona, but he’s not as bad as I had convinced myself.

    * Consistency is the issue.
    Great:
    WTF?

    Decision making and pocket presence is suspect, when he makes the obvious choice, or the right decision on where to go or whether to take off it can look good.





    My theory is that starting from around the third or fourth quarter of the Oregon State game the yips got him and took an above average QB to Jeff Lockiean levels. Chuck Knoblauch.

    No he just sucks. He sucked against Stanford. Threw at least 3 ints that should have been housed for tds that were flat dropped.
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  • ntxduck said:

    I may have promised to gouge my eyes out if I see Tyler Shough starting another game.
    I’m on the record as saying I don’t want the offense to Shough anymore. Amazingly, after rewatching games, I don’t think he’s a lost cause. I still want a different QB and am 81% sure he sucks and should be playing for Northern Arizona, but he’s not as bad as I had convinced myself.

    * Consistency is the issue.
    Great:
    WTF?

    Decision making and pocket presence is suspect, when he makes the obvious choice, or the right decision on where to go or whether to take off it can look good.





    My theory is that starting from around the third or fourth quarter of the Oregon State game the yips got him and took an above average QB to Jeff Lockiean levels. Chuck Knoblauch.

    No he just sucks. He sucked against Stanford. Threw at least 3 ints that should have been housed for tds that were flat dropped.
    He sucks, yes. He also goes through stretches where he does enough to convince that there is potential. It’s infinitely better than Buttmeister where you know there’s nothing and there will never will be. The question is if he can be better or more consistent. I strongly doubt it. But not impossible.
  • I may have promised to gouge my eyes out if I see Tyler Shough starting another game.
    I’m on the record as saying I don’t want the offense to Shough anymore. Amazingly, after rewatching games, I don’t think he’s a lost cause. I still want a different QB and am 81% sure he sucks and should be playing for Northern Arizona, but he’s not as bad as I had convinced myself.

    * Consistency is the issue.
    Great:
    WTF?

    Decision making and pocket presence is suspect, when he makes the obvious choice, or the right decision on where to go or whether to take off it can look good.





    My theory is that starting from around the third or fourth quarter of the Oregon State game the yips got him and took an above average QB to Jeff Lockiean levels. Chuck Knoblauch.

    I'm not much into the amateur film guys giving their hot takes for clicks in hopes that some major journalmalism outfit turns them into the next Mel Kiper. I do trust ex-players. And thought Geoff Schwartz had the right take on Shough.



    3rd/4th quarter of the Boov game was also where Verdell entered the injury tent and never really came back. At that point the running game was left with Travis Dye, who's explosive but not built for a ton of carries, Cyrus Habibi-Likkio, who's built for carries but not explosive, and Sean Dollars, who someone needs to explain to me why he didn't get more carries against Cal and the Cloons. So you had an offense that was becoming more one dimensional with a quarterback defensive coordinators had figured out. It also needs to be noted the three best defenses Shough faced in the year were the Cloons, Cal and USC, probably in that order.

    For my hot take to impress the major jornamalism outfits, I think Shough can work. But you need to be done with George Moore and Malasala Aumavae-Laulu at right tackle. And that means you need one of Jaramillo or Jonah Tauanu'u to take that job from them...or possibly Kingsley Suamataia. And you need a healthy CJ Verdell. But you also need a second and even a third CJ Verdell. And maybe that's Dollars and Benson. But Byron Cardwell would give you some insurance. And you also need one of Franklin or Donte Thornton to deliver from day one.

    Or you need Ty Thompson to be an elite quarterback from day one. And really for all the moving parts, the paragraph above this one is more likely to play out.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Posts: 17,473
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    He doesn't physically suck. He can play D1. But the pressure gets to him, and that makes him a shitty QB. I personally think the fumble at Beav traumatized him and he hasn't gotten over it. That, from my angle, was the breaking point for him. He has been a zombie ever since that one play.
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