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Hop vs. Petersen

Both coaches preach essentially the same message but the way they conduct themselves is yin and yang. Pete hates talking to the media while Hop relishes it. Pete takes things very SERIOUSLY while Hop appears to be infusing his program with fun every chance he gets.

I know that we don't see everything that goes on inside each program so the reality is probably not as extreme as I'm painting it out to be but there is definitely a considerable difference between the two programs even though, at their core, they both preach discipline, hard work and excellence on and off the court/field.

To me, it definitely feels like Hop's teams are more resilient and appear to be having more fun. It will be interesting to watch both programs over the coming years to see how/if the same message delivered in two different ways generates different outcomes.
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  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    You gotta be who you are, but Hop takes things just as seriously as Pete. Just because he has fun doesn’t mean he doesn’t hold his players to high standards. I know everyone knows this, but still.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 65,405 Founders Club
    I remember people decrying Rick for playing the guitar and taking the team river rafting
  • CaptainPJCaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986

    I remember people decrying Rick for playing the guitar and taking the team river rafting

    Gary Barnett and I just had a big belly laugh!!!
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    edited November 2019

    I'll wait until Hop goes 12-17 in year 6

    You might get that next year. Basketball isn’t like football tho. A team can be built in 1-2 years. I guess in football it can too, but it’s less likely.
    Hop took the same roster - 1st overall pick and doubled the wins with the same personale. So took a year I guess, one year
  • alumni94alumni94 Member Posts: 4,858
    I think in general football needs to be a little more serious due to the limited amount of games. Basketball needs to be a little more fluid so team doesn't burn out.

    my 2 cents.

    "How come it's a penny for your thoughts, but you have to put your two cents in?" - George Carlin.
  • CallMeBigErnCallMeBigErn Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,028 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited November 2019
    Do we think Hop is REALLY stressing off-the-court/academic standards for McDaniels and Stewart? They're gone in 5 months. Also it's something like coaching 15 guys vs. 105 guys. I think comparing coaching bball and football is kinda apples and oranges. The "fun" crap I see is such a overrated talking point. On the field, players have fun when they're playing well and players don't have fun when they're not playing well. It's the same for everybody. Off the field, we really have no idea what's going on. I know they play ping pong and eat food but that's about it. From everything I've seen or heard, ex-players LOVE Coach Pete, so what does that tell you? This off-season sure has started early.
  • CallMeBigErnCallMeBigErn Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,028 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited November 2019

    Do we think Hop is REALLY stressing off-the-court/academic standards for McDaniels and Stewart? They're gone in 5 months. Also it's something like coaching 15 guys vs. 105 guys. I think comparing coaching bball and football is kinda apples and oranges. The "fun" crap I see is such a overrated talking point. On the field, players have fun when they're playing well and players don't have fun when they're not playing well. It's the same for everybody. Off the field, we really have no idea what's going on. I know they play ping pong and eat food but that's about it. From everything I've seen or heard, ex-players LOVE Coach Pete, so what does that tell you? This off-season sure has started early.

    The fun shit is stupid. It’s like thinking our players have no emotion. They do when they are doing well. Brock Huard was talking about Eason having no fun. Of course he has no fun when he’s playing like shit. He threw a TD in the first half to Chin and was really fired up.
    I play lots of team sports. When we're losing and my team is playing with feces running down our legs, I'm not having fun. I'm pissed. When we're winning and we're crawling inside assholes and spray painting our names on the walls, I'm having a fucking grand ol' time. It's not a hard concept to understand if you've ever played sports. This fun nonsense is absolutely making something out of nothing, and is likely written by somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds. That includes Fetters.
  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,759 Standard Supporter

    Do we think Hop is REALLY stressing off-the-court/academic standards for McDaniels and Stewart? They're gone in 5 months. Also it's something like coaching 15 guys vs. 105 guys. I think comparing coaching bball and football is kinda apples and oranges. The "fun" crap I see is such a overrated talking point. On the field, players have fun when they're playing well and players don't have fun when they're not playing well. It's the same for everybody. Off the field, we really have no idea what's going on. I know they play ping pong and eat food but that's about it. From everything I've seen or heard, ex-players LOVE Coach Pete, so what does that tell you? This off-season sure has started early.

    The fun shit is stupid. It’s like thinking our players have no emotion. They do when they are doing well. Brock Huard was talking about Eason having no fun. Of course he has no fun when he’s playing like shit. He threw a TD in the first half to Chin and was really fired up.
    I play lots of team sports. When we're losing and my team is playing with feces running down our legs, I'm not having fun. I'm pissed. When we're winning and we're crawling inside assholes and spray painting our names on the walls, I'm having a fucking grand ol' time. It's not a hard concept to understand if you've ever played sports. This fun nonsense is absolutely making something out of nothing, and is likely written by somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds. That includes Fetters.
    if it includes Fatters take the weight up to 892
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